Archbishop Claims SCOTUS Decision Is "Poisoning" The Future

[blindthrall]

I wonder what would happen if they found a copy of pokemon in Michael Vick's house?

Hey, lookee here! Amidst all the Catholics getting butthurt because they support a worldwide pedophile conspiracy and those sad, tired trolls who have yet to realize there is no point in talking to them, somebody posted something fucking hilarious!

 

[Johnson McGee]

I wish that the church, and people in general, would stop blaming rock music movies TV woman's rights masturbation video games for society's supposed 'decline'.

 

[Corporal Yakob]

"That said, I'm willing to bet that Catholic priests have done more harm to the youth of the world than videogames have, though this wasn't something that the Archbishop addressed in his article."

Oh burn! Nice one, that made me genuinely laugh out loud!


Ah the Catholic church: never change-I always need a good laugh in the morning!

 

[Nieroshai]

"extends and elevates the individual's right to free expression
Um... why do you have a problem with this sir?

- or in this case, a corporation's right to make a healthy profit -
Um yeah, this too

at the expense of family sovereignty, the natural rights of parents and the intent of the Constitution's authors."
1. Where does the law say kids can go up and buy M games? The ESRB limit still stands. Also, don't parents have authority within their own homes or not?
2. Okay Mr. Priest, POINT OUT where in the constitution entertainment media that portray violence are looked down on, forbidden, or even mentioned.
3. This is why I'm not Catholic, they honestly pull moral laws out of their asses seemingly without even consulting the Bible more than flipping open and pointing. Like how it used to be a sin to have sex with your wife without church permission to try for a baby.

 

[xdom125x]

And so the cycle continues. Religious leader blames something or someone for deviancy, then people retaliate with comments on pedophilia.

I concur. This is so incredibly useless on both sides. Well done, internet.

It's really disappointing how many people are saying this.

It's a perfectly legitimate point. They should have been extremely gungho on weeding out the problem, instead it became a very long (and still remains) system of hiding the problem and making it worse.

No it isn't. It is irrelevant to the topic at hand. The topic at hand was "the supposed harmful effects of violent games on children". It was a Ad Hominem attack

Wheres the button where i can "report" the author for making offensive statements against Catholics?

Thats seriously just getting offensive

You do realise that catholic priests really did rape children and that their authorities did their best to cover it up? There is nothing non-factual in that paragraph of the article, perhaps you should stop getting offended and reevaluate what it is that you're defending here.

You do realise that that is irrelevant to the topic at hand? Right?

 

[geizr]

I will answer the Archbishop by quoting that sin does not come from without; it comes from within. All of history from before the advent of video games is filled with horrors and atrocities far greater than anything in recent memory coinciding with the existence of video games. These past horrific events were not the result of imitation or pervesion brought on by video games, as video games did not exist during such times. They were caused by the willful decision and derangement of the individuals who perpetrate such acts. Nothing you see, hear, taste, touch, or smell makes you commit wrongs and evil acts. You, by your own decision, are the one that makes you commit wrongs and evil acts. The responsibility is 100% on yourself.

As for parents, a parent is not being a parent by obligating someone else or something else to raise their child in the proper ways of society and what is considered right and wrong. A parent is a parent only if they themselves take the full responsibility to do so. You are the parent. You are able to direct and command the child regarding which behaviors are appropriate and acceptable and which are not. You are the one that is in control of the child's actions. You are the one responsible for monitoring and guiding your child as he/she develops, and that means being aware and knowledgeable of your child's interests, actions, and whereabouts. If you cannot do this, then you are failing miserably as a parent. Commanding the state to do these things for you is just lazy and irresponsible.

(Wow! 12noon - 1pm EST on Wednesdays, the Escapist servers just get the absolute shit kicked out of them. Had to save my text and post at a later time. Admins, you may need to put more hamsters into the wheel.)

 

[Mumorpuger]

I'm willing to bet that Catholic priests have <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases>done more harm to the youth of the world than videogames have

That was completely unnecessary.

The Archbishop has no idea what he is talking about here, obviously, but I'm sure vansau is perfectly aware that he is strawmanning. Ignorance is excusable (though really annoying). Poor debate tactics are not.

I am in 100% agreement here. That was poor journalism. I expect better from The Escapist, and frankly I feel that it reflects poorly on this fine publication when things like this are printed.

Seems simply like enforcing the 'people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones' idea to me.

Would you expect the same kind of snarky closing statement in a quality, printed newspaper?

 

[Blank Kold]

Stay classy, kids.

 

[monkey-skitz 91]

a religious preacher is saying something is poison? pot calling kettle black much?

 

[ZombieGenesis]

Old men are afraid of everything.
Soon they'll be dead.

And then it's our turn to be afraid.

 

[Sylveria]

He just doesn't want all of the choir boys playing Call of Duty instead of...well, you know what those priests are like.

^^

I also think we should tally up how many people have died due to Christian fervor vs the number of people allegedly killed because of video game inspired violence. Let's see, we have The Crusades, The Holocaust, the widespread slaughter of native Americans, Vs. Columbine?

Yeah, games kill people, religion is harmless.

 

[shadowform]

So, here's a riddle for everyone who thinks that violent videogames have a negative impact on children.

1991 was the release of what were quite possibly two of the landmark violent games: Doom and Mortal Kombat, both of which are renowned for the sheer blood and brutality they presented at the time. Since then, games have only gotten more violent and video games as a whole have only gotten more popular (surpassing even the movie industry in size). So why, then, does the FBI's official and yearly-published statistics on violent crime in the United States show a constant downward trend both in per capita crime rate and the absolute number of crimes committed, starting in 1991-1992?

 

[Mysten]

Guns video games don't kill people, people kill people. No video game, no matter how violent or sadistic its content will change a normal, mentally healthy teenager into a homicidal maniac. It just won't.

The church on the other hand? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades]

 

[sj_zero]

I think anyone trying to peg every religiously motivated harm on this one guy is overstepping things somewhat. All it does is make you look like a bigot.

That said, a member of an organization with a long and storied history of physical and sexual child abuse supported at an organizational level doesn't have any business attacking others for harm against children -- particularly when it's a group like video games. Deal with your well-documented issues before attacking hypothetical, unproven ones.

I'd like to remind everyone that video games have gone from 0% to nearly 100% proliferation among youths in the past few decades, and rather than dramatically increase, the violent crime rate has been falling nearly every year since the release of Doom. This is contrary to the predictions of people like this, whose warnings seem to predict apocalyptic increases in the violent crime.

 

[xdom125x]

You do realise that that is irrelevant to the topic at hand? Right?

It isn't entirely irrelevant, and again, this is something with factual basis for the outspoken priest to put his moral high horse on.

It has no bearing on the topic at hand despite being true. He chose to voice his misinformed opinion about games being dangerous and that is the only relevant part of this discussion.
Should he have spoken on a different topic instead? Probably, but he chose this as the topic of this discussion.

 

[Wintermoot]

why WOULD a religious zealot be pro of games having the same right,s as all other media?