Assassin's Creed Creator Says Nobody Cares About Discs Anymore
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I want my physical disks for collecting purposes! I'd even be willing to pay a few extra dollars to have a physical copy, that's how much I care about disks Mr. Desilets. I prefer my games on shelves NOT in hard drives.
He's right. I don't care about ubisoft at all..
..wait he meant discs? Oh that, I do care. It is easier for as I have a bandwidth cap, and you can fit up to 128GB with BDXL bluray, though standard are the DL 50GB discs. Not everyone has the best internet to go 100% digital. So suck it up buttercup, discs are here to stay for awhile longer.
captcha: no stinkin badges.. that's right you cocksucker.
..wait he meant discs? Oh that, I do care. It is easier for as I have a bandwidth cap, and you can fit up to 128GB with BDXL bluray, though standard are the DL 50GB discs. Not everyone has the best internet to go 100% digital. So suck it up buttercup, discs are here to stay for awhile longer.
captcha: no stinkin badges.. that's right you cocksucker.
Huh. You know, I own a console, I'm about to own a second console, and I only buy games on disc for them. I DLed Dante's Inferno on the Xbox, but other than that I've always bought discs and I intend to keep doing so. When I want something small and cheap and quasi-instantly I turn on my laptop, but lately I've been playing a lot of my games on that Xbox.
But, you know, if deep down I don't really care, that's okay.
But, you know, if deep down I don't really care, that's okay.
It all makes sense now.Frostbite3789 said:
Eeyup. That's what I keep saying too. I tolerate digital on my PC when I have to (I bought Starcraft II and Bioshock Infinite physical copies, because I didn't want to spend forty hours combined downloading them), but one of the biggest conveniences to me about console gaming is just sticking a physical copy into the console and turning it on. Plus I love looking at my collection. Because, guess what, guy-formerly-from-Ubisoft? A 20 GB game takes me twenty hours to download, and that's only if I have the internet all to myself and it doesn't decide to cut out halfway through for some reason.wooty said:
So you can take your digital future and kindly shove it down your cake-hole, Patrice Desilets.
I'd also appreciate if these people would stop assuming they know and can just tell me what I want.
I DON'T care about discs.
I do care about ownership. I do care about DRM. That is why I buy from GOG.com all day long, its all digital but I have an installer that I know I will always be able to install and play no matter what happens to GOG.com or the original publisher.
That was the real problem with Microsoft's attempt to straightjacket users with their DRM and 24 internet check-ins. Give us freedom. Even Steam enables a permanent offline mode for users.
I do care about ownership. I do care about DRM. That is why I buy from GOG.com all day long, its all digital but I have an installer that I know I will always be able to install and play no matter what happens to GOG.com or the original publisher.
That was the real problem with Microsoft's attempt to straightjacket users with their DRM and 24 internet check-ins. Give us freedom. Even Steam enables a permanent offline mode for users.
yeah? and? To fucking bad, the consumers have spoken. You want an all digital console future? Make one that isn't slanted to benefit the publishers and no one else, then we'll talk.
He is French...strumbore said:
All racism and stupidity aside I wouldn't call him a piece of shit, I'd just say he's blinded by his own personal life. He most likely takes full advantage of digital distribution in it's current form and doesn't realise that not everyone can do that. He's more or less ignorant of the fact that the reason we don't want digital now is because a good deal of us literally can not access it. I do agree with Strumbore though, he is sounding like the dudes in school whom were "too intelligent for you", but I really don't care because majority always wins.
If you want to go all digital, announce a price cut on your games at the same time. Do you really expect people to pay the same 60 dollars for content that only exists in the ether versus a physical copy in their hands? That's the problem with the publishers that are pushing all digital for the control it gives them and then offering none of the benefits of all digital to the consumer.
As a PC gamer, I buy almost all my games digitally but people still handle it very poorly. I can imagine why everyone who owns a console is pushing against it.
As a PC gamer, I buy almost all my games digitally but people still handle it very poorly. I can imagine why everyone who owns a console is pushing against it.
See, the highest we can get, and have is 150 gigs. That's between four people, three of who love games and such. Yeah if we all get the same game, one downloads, then we put it on USB and then copy it to console/computer then buy it and have Steam or the console say we can play it now by detecting it's there. But we have drastically different tastes. Witcher 2, I got the disc of for PC, still had to download 11 gigs, just to patch and add stuff to the game before I could play it for example.Abomination said:
Digital is the future, sure, I can see that, but that future is still a ways off.
I confess I personally DONT care about discs. What I care about is rights and as long as this industry (along with the other media industries) persist in trying to change the rules of the game surrounding products by trying to turn them into subscriptions so as to bypass consumer protection and rights then we all must resist not only for our sakes but for the sakes of idiots like these who do not even understand how they are destroying themselves.
The scary thing is that we seemingly do not yet grasp is that this technically IS the future. Digital distribution is about to absolutely explode with things like 3d printing and as it does what we do today is the battleground of that future. If we do not resist their vision of the future, we will have all lost in future decades where 3d printing will allow everything to be printed, transmitted via digital distribution and all your worldly possessions will be viewed as subscriptions and licenses. Apply Steam like policies that view your car or clothes subject to revokable, suspendable, discontinuable subscriptions that can be held hostage until voluntary compliance with new terms and conditions. Apply always on principles and Imagine driving to visit your grandparents out in the middle of no where and your car shutting down because you go out of range of an always online connection causing you to drive over a cliff to your death.
No it does not matter how many people come out and say it is the future because they WANT it to be the future (even though they cannot forsee how catastrophic such a future would be for themselves), As long as DD is approached with such resentment and loathing against consumers by trying to jam anti consumer down the throats of the people it cannot and should not be "accepted"
The scary thing is that we seemingly do not yet grasp is that this technically IS the future. Digital distribution is about to absolutely explode with things like 3d printing and as it does what we do today is the battleground of that future. If we do not resist their vision of the future, we will have all lost in future decades where 3d printing will allow everything to be printed, transmitted via digital distribution and all your worldly possessions will be viewed as subscriptions and licenses. Apply Steam like policies that view your car or clothes subject to revokable, suspendable, discontinuable subscriptions that can be held hostage until voluntary compliance with new terms and conditions. Apply always on principles and Imagine driving to visit your grandparents out in the middle of no where and your car shutting down because you go out of range of an always online connection causing you to drive over a cliff to your death.
No it does not matter how many people come out and say it is the future because they WANT it to be the future (even though they cannot forsee how catastrophic such a future would be for themselves), As long as DD is approached with such resentment and loathing against consumers by trying to jam anti consumer down the throats of the people it cannot and should not be "accepted"
I'm not saying that digital alternatives don't exist, but nobody is claiming that digital is the future and physical discs/books are irrelevant in any other form of media. The only reason anyone gives for why "All Digital Is The Future" that actually has a basis in objective fact is because (supposedly) multi-million dollar corporations would make more money. Which is not a particularly good way to convince consumers to go all digital.Ultratwinkie said:
This.Clive Howlitzer said:
It's a large part of the reason why everyone in this house never buys digital versions of anything. You want to charge me the *same price* for something that doesn't give me the sense of security a physical copy does (barring stupid former attempts like the 180 to thwart that)?
Uhh no. Just no.
Yeah, I definitely care about discs, and will continue to care about them until I have the security that any digital game, ANY DIGITAL GAME is never, ever going to be unattainable. Give me the security I crave, and have in discs, and you might be on to something.
Do what sony does at times. Bundle digital downloads with other stuff like day one, and another game. I got Quantum Conundrum, 3 outfits, and some other stuff with Tomb Raider downloaded from PSN, and it was a tax free average game cost.
Sweeten digital, and give us instant gratification, or it's no deal. Especially if the companies are going to reel in the leash game companies want to keep gamers on.
I've got hundreds of Disc based games from my life gaming, and even a few cartridges keeping my ability to play those games safe.
Oh, and make hard drives cheaper, or make it way faster to download full games, too. Preferrably both. Do this across the globe. Hard drive space is finite, especially in consoles. Not everyone's going to have a 500 gig hard drive.
I have over 900 individual downloads on my PSN account, and it grows by the week. I had to reformat not too long ago. Guess what I had to do soon after reformatting?
I'm not going to pretend that there's no benefits what so ever to being digital, but the cons outweight it too much right now. Especially on consoles.
/rant
Do what sony does at times. Bundle digital downloads with other stuff like day one, and another game. I got Quantum Conundrum, 3 outfits, and some other stuff with Tomb Raider downloaded from PSN, and it was a tax free average game cost.
Sweeten digital, and give us instant gratification, or it's no deal. Especially if the companies are going to reel in the leash game companies want to keep gamers on.
I've got hundreds of Disc based games from my life gaming, and even a few cartridges keeping my ability to play those games safe.
Oh, and make hard drives cheaper, or make it way faster to download full games, too. Preferrably both. Do this across the globe. Hard drive space is finite, especially in consoles. Not everyone's going to have a 500 gig hard drive.
I have over 900 individual downloads on my PSN account, and it grows by the week. I had to reformat not too long ago. Guess what I had to do soon after reformatting?
I'm not going to pretend that there's no benefits what so ever to being digital, but the cons outweight it too much right now. Especially on consoles.
/rant
This is definitely what talking out of your ass sounds like, because you have to be truly fucking thick to tell the consumers how it works.
I am sick to death of morons like Patrice telling me "dis is da futre and der is nottthing u cn do abut it". WRONG! If you have any decency you would aim to give as many options as possible so no one misses out! Convenience should be the way of the future, not forced prick decisions that only work for greedy pricks.
I am sick to death of morons like Patrice telling me "dis is da futre and der is nottthing u cn do abut it". WRONG! If you have any decency you would aim to give as many options as possible so no one misses out! Convenience should be the way of the future, not forced prick decisions that only work for greedy pricks.
He's definitely not gonna be reading the forums so I doubt he'll ever change his obstinate views on what makes this industry work.
But it would be kind of funny, if it actually did happen and they still kept losing profits and ended up blaming it on pirates or hackers or some other petty and pathetic excuse they can come up with.
It would be "fun" to heckle them about their short-sightedness about this whole miracle solution that they didn't bother to think was possible to be comprised because all they saw was "Profits! Ripping consumers off! Monopoly!" before thinking of anything else, like for the fact this will at best give a variable profit boost then possibly kill off most of their consumer's interests.
But it would be kind of funny, if it actually did happen and they still kept losing profits and ended up blaming it on pirates or hackers or some other petty and pathetic excuse they can come up with.
It would be "fun" to heckle them about their short-sightedness about this whole miracle solution that they didn't bother to think was possible to be comprised because all they saw was "Profits! Ripping consumers off! Monopoly!" before thinking of anything else, like for the fact this will at best give a variable profit boost then possibly kill off most of their consumer's interests.