Bad game, good sequel?

[Vivi22]

Half Life 2 was a bajillion times more fun than the original
Team Fortress 2 was a quadranazillion times more fun than Team Fortress Classic
Left 4 Dead 2 was... well, a lot better than Left 4 Dead

Valve is pretty damn good at making sequels (except for maybe Portal 2, which is almost a different game than the original, which is why I can't compare them, even though I REALLY loved both of them). I hope this will be the same for DoTa 2 and maybe CS: Global Offensive.

it took 39 posts for someone to mention half life 2? escapist, i am disappoint.

The thread was supposed to be about good or great sequels to bad or below average games. Half-Life was neither bad nor below average so there was no need to mention HL2. Although it seems the thread has simply become one about sequels that surpassed their predecessor.

 

[templargunman]

This is entirely subjective but I figure i'll throw this out there anyways. But first I must raise my flame shield *raises +4 flame shield*

Going from Two Worlds one, to Two Worlds 2. The sequel is sooo much better than the original, but I guess when you're at rock bottom there is nowhere to go but up really.
To me the sequel isn't the greatest, since there are still some problems like lagging controls and too many abilities tied to each button. But it's an alright game.

I really enjoyed Two Worlds until I was about to beat it and realized how linear it was. That was the upside of the terrible first one, at least it was open world.

 

[inFAMOUSCowZ]

Killzone 2 was miles ahead of Killzone . Hell I'd even say KZ 3 was the best in the series.

 

[Yankeedoodles]

Unlike movies, it really seems to me like videogame sequels are usually better than the original. I'm sure there's plenty of examples of sequels being worse but right now I can't think of one.

 

[Matrixbeast]

Street Fighter was shit.
Street Fighter 2 is still getting remade to this day.

 

[ABLb0y]

Also, Silent Hill Homecoming is my least favorite of the series.[/quote]

Really? It was like, my third favourite. But, whatever. Your opinion is your opinion.

 

[Knife]

Well, I really played Warcraft 3 first, and only after that I played 2 and 1. Maybe I should've played them first, but whatever.

Night Elves getting into Alliance is WoW lore, which is fucked up beyond belief where Furion goes massive genocide on his own people because DURPTY DOO.I don't really count it.

As for Illidan, I didn't found him that whiny, and when you've spent thousands of years with a warden you completly hates and and is absolutly insane while your brother bonks your highschool love, and when your freed your brother calls you EVIL and then spouting nonsens about you allying with the enemy and "dooming us all" plus everyone hates you and wants to kill you, I say you got a reason for being pretty bitter.

As for the runthrough, I apreciate the apreciation (boy, that was a weird sentence).

See that's where you got it all wrong - you're supposed to start from the begining and then hate on all the new stuff for ruining everything you ever loved and cared for. Then you can reminisce how everything used to be better despite everything being worse. Then your choice to disregard new lore and consider it stupid is consistent with everything you've been saying all along.
Illidan may have had a rough time, but I had to listen to him which is far worse, and all that on hard difficulty no less. I could consider giving the guy a second chance, but he couldn't even beat a dead guy wielding a sword with eating disorders. I mean what is he? Blind or something? Gee...
And I appreciate the appreciated appreciation. Or my appreciation's appreciation is being appreciated.

 

[SpaceBat]

Bioshock 2. Wait, the first game must be the crappy one? Forget it.

Also the sequel actually has to be good, not a total abomination in terms of basically everything. Sorry, I just hate that game too much.
Anyway, Assassin's Creed, I suppose. The first game was bad, the second was...ok I guess?

 

[Takolin]

I loathed the witcher (yes the enhanced edition) and I absolutely loved the witcher 2.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Erm, Killzone? The first game isn't bad, but it is shockingly average.

Come Killzone 2 and wow, they pulled off something brilliant in comparison.

 

[GaWi]

Saints row 2 > saints row
Team fortress 2 > team fortress classic
Fire emblem: rekka no ken (just fire emblem in the US) > fire emblem: Fuin no tsurugi

 

[Proverbial Jon]

And if we're talking about Resident Evil pre-remakes/director's cut then I completely agree with you. RE2 and RE3 are vastly superior for having auto-aim alone. That's without even mentioning what an awesome job RE2 did of telling two concurrent story lines, or RE3's addition of different paths to take and Nemesis actually hunting you from one area to another whenever he showed up.

I loved the way RE2 handled the story and the way certain actions changed details in the other storyline. That must have been quite revolutionary for its time. Then again, without the inclusion of the Master of unlocking and the Jill sandwich... this had to be better!

I think RE3 is about the only Resi game to actually make me feel the fear and tension one should feel when playing a survival horror game. Knowing Nemesis could pop up at any time was terrifying and it was refreshing to be able to simply run or choose to fight. Fantastic game.

Silent Hill 2 > Silent Hill 1
Silent Hill Homecoming > Silent Hill 0rigins

Whaa? Seriously? Homecoming is at the absolute bottom of the pile for me. But then again, 0rigins didn't even need to be made, Silent Hill itself was the origin story and did a much better job of it.

Brotherhood is damn good as well with a lot of challenges and new concepts to make it seem less like a glorified expansion pack. It has its problems but it was what I wanted, more of the same thing. Really good multiplayer as well.

Brotherhood was not at all what I expected. I thought you would have to collect team members ala Mass Effect and each one would have their own personality/backstory and you'd have to pursuade them to join your cause. THEN you could use them on missions and what not. Instead we get a bunch of throw away nobodies who were easier to round up than a bunch of paralized sheep.

Considering I was dissapointed by the lack of depth to this mechanic, and felt the actual "brotherhood" part was simply tacked on as an afterthought, I still had a fantastic time with this game. I guess Ubisoft are getting good at these games now.

 

[DementedSheep]

Hmm this thread is making me think I should actually get AC2.

 

[jacobythehedgehog]

ICO to Shadow of the Colossus. Not that ICO wasn't good, it is just Shadow of the Colossus was that amazing

Also Metroid Prime 3: Corruption was sooooo much better the Metroid: Other M.

 

[IamSofaKingRaw]

Mercenaries 2 was fucking fantastic.

. I think you made a typing error. I can honestly say (and I've played some really bad games) that Mercs 2 is in the top 3 worst games I've EVER played. First is Tenka on ps1, Uprising on ps1, and then Mercs 2. Yup, I've played PS1,2 and 3 games (along with PSP and 360) that are much more enjoyable

 

[Zhukov]

The Witcher.

Although I'm not sure I'd say the second game was good enough to qualify, but it was a huge (huuuuuuge) improvement on the original.

Is running around and stating unpopular opinions about PC exclusives a hobby of yours or something? It seems like you just have to let the world know you hate X PC exclusive or think Y PC exclusive is average every chance you get...

Or do you just think it is cool to bash critically acclaimed games?

Uhh... what?

My apologies, I wasn't aware that Witcher 2 > Witcher 1 was an unpopular opinion.

Not sure where you got the idea about PC exclusives though...

EDIT: Oh right, you're that sore Hard Reset guy. Mate, go grind your pathetic axe somewhere else. I'm really not interested.

 

[BristolBerserker]

Assassin's Creed is what everyone is saying. Although i wouldn't call it bad, when i played Killzone i was a bit disappointed by it. Then Killzone 2 rocked up, punched me in the face and told me i was it's *****.

 

[RheynbowDash]

Mercenaries 2 was fucking fantastic.

. I think you made a typing error. I can honestly say (and I've played some really bad games) that Mercs 2 is in the top 3 worst games I've EVER played. First is Tenka on ps1, Uprising on ps1, and then Mercs 2. Yup, I've played PS1,2 and 3 games (along with PSP and 360) that are much more enjoyable

Nope, I have it correct. Yes, the story is outlandish, but the action is over the top and ridiculous. But overall its FUN. You guys remember that right? Also a very good 3rd person shooter everyone should check out that was better than the original: 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

I hear the original Street Fighter was kinda ass. I can't really think of any others off of the top of my head...you could arguably mention Link to the Past being better than Zelda 2 and, everything after the CDi Zelda's being better. Final Fantasy games can also possibly fall into this category.

 

[Pjotr84]

The Witcher.

Although I'm not sure I'd say the second game was good enough to qualify, but it was a huge (huuuuuuge) improvement on the original.

Is running around and stating unpopular opinions about PC exclusives a hobby of yours or something? It seems like you just have to let the world know you hate X PC exclusive or think Y PC exclusive is average every chance you get...

Or do you just think it is cool to bash critically acclaimed games?

Uhh... what?

My apologies, I wasn't aware that Witcher 2 > Witcher 1 was an unpopular opinion.

What's the point of having an opinion if it can't be an unpopular one?

Also, I do think the Witcher was the better game