You do realise he did this so he could fund getting his band PiL back together, right?Ammutseba said:
It's also why he appeared on I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here, so he could fund getting the Sex Pistols back for an anniversary tour.
You do realise he did this so he could fund getting his band PiL back together, right?Ammutseba said:
Yeah I know, using "voice of a generation" was overdoing it, but you can't deny they did pretty much "own" music and rock for 2 years, and look at them now. Like you say, Michael Bay and EA music monkeys.anthony87 said:Linkin Park?DigitalSushi said:OH Yeah, what ever happened to Linkin Park?, they were pretty much the voice of a generation, good music with meaning... and suddenly they feel like a corporate band merely making music for whatever corporation is giving them money.this isnt my name said:Linken park, I stoped respecting them becuase they becme more nd more shit, even when they were hit they still kept going in tht direction, try to go out with some decency.
Voice of a generation?
BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Now don't get me wrong, I liked them when I was 13 just like every other 13 year old and looking back...yeah, they had some good songs but "voice of a generation" is a serious over-statement. Hell, just look at them now. They're the guys Micheal Bay goes to whenever he wants a movie soundtrack.
I had this with Mindless Self Indulgence.Ytomyth said:First time I heard Through the Fire and the Flames from Dragonforce it sounded quite badass; nice speed and some good solo-work. But then I found a vid of them doing that same song live....
I just can't listen to any of their work anymore, knowing that it's all studio editing without any real talent from their side.
Tanksie said:and more songwriting talent between them than any metal band .Worgen said:Oh please, they are far from the best band of the last 10 years, even when I liked them they weren't in my top 5, and I've never been one for the standard band music anyway, so that is saying something. Really all they have is a lead singer with a hell of a voice.Tanksie said:you got it so wrong its actually hilarious. you gave up easily the best band of the last 10 years over a misunderstanding you were at fault for. Its about the beautiful hypocrisy of religion.Worgen said:I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.
I liked Metallica until load.
I liked muse till they found out what money is.
I liked slayer until i listened to a second slayer song. the intros are different but the rest is the same.(didn't like the first song much anyway.)
and a great guitarist and back up vocalist in malakian. seriously. toxicity was the album of the decade. sure its been a pretty crap decade for music. and besides your "top 5" is your opinion, im not saying they are the best because i like them the most(and i dont) im saying it because they are by FAR the most creative band the worlds had in a while and brilliant and classy with their execution. and they kicked ass live
You know I should have known that getting kicked out of Metallica (a band notorious for being full of assholes) should have given me a clue, but in person he really was a dickhead. Reminds me of how I liked Disturbed up until I saw them live when they weren't even well known or popular and how the lead singer pulled a full on primadonna act because someone decided to chuck a water bottle at him. He proceeded to stop the song and whine and complain and threaten to leave the stage if another bottle hit him (at which point the crowd boo'd the hell out of him). A comparison point for that was when I saw Marilyn Manson live and Manson got hit with a full bottle, he didn't stop the song but waited til it was over and asked the guy who chucked it to come to the stage, whereupon he chucked the bottle back at him which sparked the entire crowd to chuck bottles at the dude). That to me was classy.BlastedTheWorm said:You had to meet Dave before you realized that?amaranth_dru said:I liked Megadeth until... I met Dave Mustaine and found out what a real asshole he is.
I fail to see how the lines.... I'm not typing all that again, essentially saying science fails since it doesn't have faith, is about the hypocrisy of religion.Tanksie said:NO they dont take a stupid stance, its about the HYPOCRISY of religion. did you not read my first post or do you not no that that word means.Worgen said:Tanksie said:and more songwriting talent between them than any metal band .Worgen said:Oh please, they are far from the best band of the last 10 years, even when I liked them they weren't in my top 5, and I've never been one for the standard band music anyway, so that is saying something. Really all they have is a lead singer with a hell of a voice.Tanksie said:you got it so wrong its actually hilarious. you gave up easily the best band of the last 10 years over a misunderstanding you were at fault for. Its about the beautiful hypocrisy of religion.Worgen said:I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.
I liked Metallica until load.
I liked muse till they found out what money is.
I liked slayer until i listened to a second slayer song. the intros are different but the rest is the same.(didn't like the first song much anyway.)
and a great guitarist and back up vocalist in malakian. seriously. toxicity was the album of the decade. sure its been a pretty crap decade for music. and besides your "top 5" is your opinion, im not saying they are the best because i like them the most(and i dont) im saying it because they are by FAR the most creative band the worlds had in a while and brilliant and classy with their execution. and they kicked ass live
Being better song writers then most metal bands isn't much of a compliment.
No, the most creative band is Weird Al's band, it takes talent to do what he does, system is an pretty good band who takes a very very stupid stance in one of their songs, and that is enough for me to not like them.
Thank you! Man do I hate Anette VS Tarja arguments. If you hate Anette so much, then go listen to Tarja's stuff and leave us alone. What's done is done, and no amount of "zomg is so generic now ugh" hipster whining is going to change that.WarDialler said:Also if anyone starts that whole Tarja vs Anette thing again I will come round your house with Kevin Smith and Jason Mewes and beat the snot out of you, ala J&SBSB. Fact.
I suddenly like system of a down a lot more now.Worgen said:SonicKoala said:How would you explain their line "Why cry when angels deserve to die?" in "Chop Suey"? Taking lines out of context aside, perhaps "Science" is just a commentary on the short-comings of science? How its ostensible promise of leading us into a new and better world is slightly undercut when you consider the horrors humanity has had to endure ever since the advent of the modern age? Its undervaluing of the more spiritual, intangible qualities inherent in human existence?Worgen said:I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.
Just throwing that out there, feel free to agree or disagree. Honestly, System aren't even that good in my opinion, so you not listening to them certainly isn't much of a loss as far as I'm concerned. That being said, if there's one thing I'm not a fan of, it's rash decisions!
If they also didn't repeat "science has failed our world" over and over again then I might be more inclined to agree, plus it doesn't help that the song is damn catchy and I cant even think about these stupid lyrics without the damn thing getting stuck in my head. I liked it allot better before I knew what the words said.
Ugh, its the thread that wont fucken die. The only people that think science is cold and rational are people that don't know science, I know science, science is a personal friend and has much more love then any faith.papakapp said:I suddenly like system of a down a lot more now.Worgen said:SonicKoala said:How would you explain their line "Why cry when angels deserve to die?" in "Chop Suey"? Taking lines out of context aside, perhaps "Science" is just a commentary on the short-comings of science? How its ostensible promise of leading us into a new and better world is slightly undercut when you consider the horrors humanity has had to endure ever since the advent of the modern age? Its undervaluing of the more spiritual, intangible qualities inherent in human existence?Worgen said:I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.
Just throwing that out there, feel free to agree or disagree. Honestly, System aren't even that good in my opinion, so you not listening to them certainly isn't much of a loss as far as I'm concerned. That being said, if there's one thing I'm not a fan of, it's rash decisions!
If they also didn't repeat "science has failed our world" over and over again then I might be more inclined to agree, plus it doesn't help that the song is damn catchy and I cant even think about these stupid lyrics without the damn thing getting stuck in my head. I liked it allot better before I knew what the words said.
RE: the theme of the thread, I don't like republicans, George Bush, or country music, but when the Dixie Chicks went off on Bush, I would have quit listening to them if I ever had listened to them in the first place. I also lost respect for Green Day after "american idiot" and I lost respect for Eminem after "mosh". Pretty much whenever a singer gets political in their music I loose respect for them.
But for a band to sing about how cold rationalism is the death of real living, that is exactly what music is imho. Music is real living and the exact opposite of cold rationalism. Science is cold rationalism and not real living.
Then you would make a horrible scientist. Science is unbiased and clinical. Based on your most recent post in this thread I can Objectively say that you are neither objective nor clinical on this issue as evidenced by your use of the subjective words :"love" and "friend".Worgen said:Ugh, its the thread that wont fucken die. The only people that think science is cold and rational are people that don't know science, I know science, science is a personal friend and has much more love then any faith.papakapp said:I suddenly like system of a down a lot more now.Worgen said:If they also didn't repeat "science has failed our world" over and over again then I might be more inclined to agree, plus it doesn't help that the song is damn catchy and I cant even think about these stupid lyrics without the damn thing getting stuck in my head. I liked it allot better before I knew what the words said.SonicKoala said:How would you explain their line "Why cry when angels deserve to die?" in "Chop Suey"? Taking lines out of context aside, perhaps "Science" is just a commentary on the short-comings of science? How its ostensible promise of leading us into a new and better world is slightly undercut when you consider the horrors humanity has had to endure ever since the advent of the modern age? Its undervaluing of the more spiritual, intangible qualities inherent in human existence?Worgen said:I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.
Just throwing that out there, feel free to agree or disagree. Honestly, System aren't even that good in my opinion, so you not listening to them certainly isn't much of a loss as far as I'm concerned. That being said, if there's one thing I'm not a fan of, it's rash decisions!
RE: the theme of the thread, I don't like republicans, George Bush, or country music, but when the Dixie Chicks went off on Bush, I would have quit listening to them if I ever had listened to them in the first place. I also lost respect for Green Day after "american idiot" and I lost respect for Eminem after "mosh". Pretty much whenever a singer gets political in their music I loose respect for them.
But for a band to sing about how cold rationalism is the death of real living, that is exactly what music is imho. Music is real living and the exact opposite of cold rationalism. Science is cold rationalism and not real living.