Bashing the P0rnz

[AcacianLeaves]

Porn is a necessary part of any society. People need a safe way to relieve sexual stress. Just look at societies where sexuality is regulated, controlled, and heavily censored. I'm not saying pornography prevents extremism (often times extremism is a reaction to sexuality), but repressed sexuality definitely has a negative impact on society.

The claim that porn creates sexuality in teenagers is also false. Puberty creates sexuality in teenagers. Teenagers have been having sex since the dawn of time, if anything pornography prevents teen sex by giving them an outlet.

Nobody is forced into porn, and nobody is prevented from quitting. It's not the Mafia, it's just a job like any other. The Adult Industry is actually very tightly regulated, and the participants get tested constantly. There is no evidence that porn results in the spread of STDs.

Sexuality is good, and any free society should be able to experience it in a safe and private way. Porn provides that.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

I think that you may have a point about it exposing kids to dirty shit when they are still too young, but for everyone else, there is nothing wrong with it.

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I have porn open in other tabs... <_<

 

[Gentile]

And how many of those 93%[sup][citation needed btw][/sup] have only had sex within their marriages? You sir appear to live in a different time albeit a simpler time.
Fact is, people have sex, not just for reproduction (though that is the base instinct we share) but for pleasure. Porn does not water this down, on the contrary, it makes sex appear more pleasurable than ever before. But that doesn't mean that porn is an evil that is filling our heads with nonsense and that sex is only for pleasure. You're naive to think so.

A non-issue for you, an issue for others.

Sorry about the arbitrary percentage. I made it up, but I did the research. The US census bureau seems to indicate that it is 85%, down from 95% - 50 years ago llolololool.

http://www.matchmakerconference.com/singlesmarket/

Other than that, Still not end of discussion? ;\

 

[blankedboy]

12%? That seems a little low...

Ok, look. This guy just joined the site today. Look at the OP. And look at the posts he has been making to defend his claims. STOP FEEDING THE TROLL.

And off they go, jumping to conclusions...

 

[Gentile]

The reason animals have a sexual drive is because of the importance of reproduction.

It's the same as my drive to eat. I get hungry because eating is important.

And they say dolphins are the only other creatures who have sex for pleasure.

 

[Gentile]

Don't get me wrong: marriage (or just having long-lasting relationships) is good for the stability of society, and also for our emotional and spiritual well-being. I'm just saying that there are powerful biological forces inside of us that desire sexual partners, and they aren't always so easy to deal with. These urges didn't originate with pornography: instead, pornography itself (which has existed in some form for thousands of years) was created in an attempt to deal with them.

I may as well throw this out there, while I'm at it: what about couples who watch pornography together and use it as a tool in their intimate relationships?

The urges are there, and people are still trying to find a safe way to control these urges because they know it can't go on forever because you just brought it up - many people do settle and find long-lasting relationships. So what are they going to do? Well logically, the only way to get rid of an urge or desire is to replace it with a stronger one. Go find another thing that could possibly be more interesting if you want to inhibit these "powerful biological forces." I won't say what. That's for the individual to decide.

As for couples, I don't wish to be somebody who advocates what they can and can't do in an intimate setting. Especially considering how I have never been involved in a long-term relationship at all.

 

[AugustFall]

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I am so sorry. I meant "to counteract the belief that premarital sex is worth pursuing." You may be a grammar nazi here because I deserve it. I failed epic.

You typed the wrong word... don't beat yourself up about it.

Now on to the topic. It's hardly counteracting a belief by mirroring it. There has been no reason given yet as to why premarital sex is wrong.
You've alluded to the idea that premarital sex and cheating are somehow connected but that's a statement based on very weak assumptions. You've also said you want the woman you have sex with to be "worth the wait", what does that mean exactly?
It really does sound like you are, to quote a movie that will no doubt hurt my argument, "putting the pussy on a pedestal." Sex should not be such a huge factor in a relationship and trying to make a clear decision like who you are meant to spend the rest of your life with with ridiculous sexual tension in the air is something that I would imagine would lead to a lot of people making a mistake and heading towards divorce.

 

[Gentile]

And off they go, jumping to conclusions...

I find it funny that saying "Porn has some harmful impacts in society." is considered trolling haha.

 

[RatRace123]

I like porn.
And I think your arguments are flawed, most legitimate pornos (I say legitimate, as in: Director, camera crew, editing. Not: Dude, drunk chick, cellphone cam.) take a bunch of precautions, using condoms, getting regular STD checks.
Many people are attractive and enjoy sex, so they get paid for doing what they like.

And I see nothing wrong with kids learning about sexuality to learn a bit from porn, that shouldn't be the only place they learn about sex, but it's a natural part of growing up.
Of course, the internet has been my "teacher" for about 10 years, so I may be bias.
Really not the big, child corrupting deal that people seem to think it is.

 

[QuantumT]

The reason animals have a sexual drive is because of the importance of reproduction.

It's the same as my drive to eat. I get hungry because eating is important.

And they say dolphins are the only other creatures who have sex for pleasure.

That's a myth. To get you started on fixing this inaccuracy, read [a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_sexual_behaviour#Sex_for_pleasure"]this[/a].

But really, it shouldn't be that hard to see how wrong this is. Ever seen a dog lick itself?

 

[Daeggreth]

(I'm sure someone has posted similarly by no but I can't keep up)

Okay, wow where to start?

Anything Outstanding:
I understood your point long before you started to explain it in detail. I've had similar thoughts about the problem of over population on occasion, but I think you underestimate the force of public resistance to population control anytime in the near future. I personally think it unlikely that people the world over (or even just the western hemisphere) would accept population control, (especially through genetic manipulation) until we reach overcrowding similar to certain Asian nations. Though I'd probably agree with you most of the time about most of your ideas/arguments, (intellectually anyway)the sheer strength of your convictions is more than a little terrifying.

OT: I guess I'll start by saying that I was first introduced to porn at a fairly young age and continue to watch it on occasion. Never did I have the misconception that it was anything like real sex or love thanks to an even earlier introduction to sex via sex-ed class and the loving relationship displayed between my parents (not to mention that even at age 10 I wasn't a complete moron. Strange how that hasn't managed to stay the case ;D).

I would be more than happy to give up sex for the rest of my life for a truly intimate relationship (though I do consider sex to be an important aspect of a relationship for the intimacy it helps foster).

I would like to talk about the historical attitudes towards sex and children and don't even get me started on religion and sex, but frankly I'm tired so goodnight.

Btw I'm living proof that not all young people have "the wrong ideas" about sex and yes, I do love me some parentheses.

 

[Gentile]

You typed the wrong word... don't beat yourself up about it.

Now on to the topic. It's hardly counteracting a belief by mirroring it. There has been no reason given yet as to why premarital sex is wrong.
You've alluded to the idea that premarital sex and cheating are somehow connected but that's a statement based on very weak assumptions. You've also said you want the woman you have sex with to be "worth the wait", what does that mean exactly?
It really does sound like you are, to quote a movie that will no doubt hurt my argument, "putting the pussy on a pedestal." Sex should not be such a huge factor in a relationship and trying to make a clear decision like who you are meant to spend the rest of your life with with ridiculous sexual tension in the air is something that I would imagine would lead to a lot of people making a mistake and heading towards divorce.

More like putting the life partner as a whole on a pedestal. Avoiding premarital sex is a personal choice. I won't get into how others should mirror that choice as well. The topic is about how porn could be one of the root causes of poor sexual choices within society.

 

[thiosk]

Solution:

Live and let live.

OP, if you don't like it, don't watch it. Seriously. Theres not a post on this board that is going to change your preexisting notions one iota. At this point, you are basically soapboxing and preaching at all of the people who really don't consider it as destructive to society as you clearly do.

Yes, pornography is more accessible these days, because of the internet. No one under the age of 16 should be allowed on the internet, under any circumstance. (LEGO MMO for children? puhhhleeeze). No, your puritanical views on love and sex are not necessarily the end all be all of human sexuality.

Once again, live and let live.

 

[Gentile]

I like porn.
And I think your arguments are flawed, most legitimate pornos (I say legitimate, as in: Director, camera crew, editing. Not: Dude, drunk chick, cellphone cam.) take a bunch of precautions, using condoms, getting regular STD checks.
Many people are attractive and enjoy sex, so they get paid for doing what they like.

And I see nothing wrong with kids learning about sexuality to learn a bit from porn, that shouldn't be the only place they learn about sex, but it's a natural part of growing up.
Of course, the internet has been my "teacher" for about 10 years, so I may be bias.
Really not the big, child corrupting deal that people seem to think it is.

The internet is a hogwash of unregulated beliefs and thoughts from people all over the world. What makes you think being educated by this knowledge would give you any discernment to decide what's right and wrong?

 

[AugustFall]

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More like putting the life partner as a whole on a pedestal. Avoiding premarital sex is a personal choice. I won't get into how others should mirror that choice as well. The topic is about how porn could be one of the root causes of poor sexual choices within society.

I know what you mean but when you word it like that it makes it seem as if you think of a partner as a sex object.
lol but I know what you're actually getting at, I just disagree.

Also no, it's not. Sex feels awesome, kids are stupid. Keeping them ignorant is not a solution. Better education about safe sex is how to fix teen pregnancy and shiz.

 

[Gentile]

Solution:

Live and let live.

OP, if you don't like it, don't watch it. Seriously. Theres not a post on this board that is going to change your preexisting notions one iota. At this point, you are basically soapboxing and preaching at all of the people who really don't consider it as destructive to society as you clearly do.

Yes, pornography is more accessible these days, because of the internet. No one under the age of 16 should be allowed on the internet, under any circumstance. (LEGO MMO for children? puhhhleeeze). No, your puritanical views on love and sex are not necessarily the end all be all of human sexuality.

Once again, live and let live.

Live and let live. I'll remember that. Thank you very much.

Goodnight y'all.

 

[renzozuken2002]

The reason animals have a sexual drive is because of the importance of reproduction.

It's the same as my drive to eat. I get hungry because eating is important.

And they say dolphins are the only other creatures who have sex for pleasure.

Monkeys also have sex for pleasure, and did you know that monkeys only have 2% genetic difference with humans?
And dolphins are the 2nd most intelligent creature(the 1st are humans of course.).
I'd say there seems to be a connection between intelligence and sex for pleasure.

 

[RatRace123]

The internet is a hogwash of unregulated beliefs and thoughts from people all over the world. What makes you think being educated by this knowledge would give you any discernment to decide what's right and wrong?

I'm smart enough to know the difference on my own. I think as long as people can tell that porn isn't an accurate representation of sex, then they're fine. If they can't, they have problems that are far greater than porn.
And besides, if we were all learning about sex from just porn, we'd think it always needed to end in a money shot, meaning that no one would become pregnant again.

 

[Gentile]

I know what you mean but when you word it like that it makes it seem as if you think of a partner as a sex object.
lol but I know what you're actually getting at, I just disagree.

Also no, it's not. Sex feels awesome, kids are stupid. Keeping them ignorant is not a solution. Better education about safe sex is how to fix teen pregnancy and shiz.

First point - Good, can't believe I made that misconception

Second - What I said up there somewhere, aslong as the kids have good discernment. Knowledge really means nothing without that :]

 

[AugustFall]

I know what you mean but when you word it like that it makes it seem as if you think of a partner as a sex object.
lol but I know what you're actually getting at, I just disagree.

Also no, it's not. Sex feels awesome, kids are stupid. Keeping them ignorant is not a solution. Better education about safe sex is how to fix teen pregnancy and shiz.

First point - Good, can't believe I made that misconception

Second - What I said up there somewhere, aslong as the kids have good discernment. Knowledge really means nothing without that :]

Discernment itself means good judgement, "good discernment" adds nothing"

Good judgement is up to the person
We can only educate, what one does with that info is up to them. To take that away is fascism.

And now we are totally of topic.

Good night sir.