Battlefield 3 May Not Reach Steam

Norris IV

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Ahwell less money for EA I guess, I buy mos of their games on console anyways an the only game of theirs I really wanna play is ME3 and I doubt they'll try and make you run a separate program on your xbox to play it (although I'm not gonna put it past them :p)
 

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Sabazios said:
Meh, their funeral if they want to take on Steam.

Battlefield 3 is supposed to be the less stupid and evil counterpart to Call of Duty, and if they want to cut out the people who are PC gamers who care about this kind of thing, then there's basically no way of buying a war shooter without it being something that is ruining the industry.
discounting the millions who play on consoles who care about it? ok?

you've made up that EA are cutting people out of the game. they're not, in any sense of the word.

nothing about your sentence has any relevance in the real world.
 

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Good luck outselling MW3 when you've knocked the PC's largest digital distribution service out of your list.

Seriously, considering you've been hyping this game to be the CoD-killer, doing this sort of shit is just gonna make everyone laugh at you when you dive off the high board into a swimming pool that has since been drained of water.
 

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Frostbite3789 said:
castlewise said:
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ImprovizoR said:
Well that makes things pretty simple then, doesn't it? I won't buy the game. I will not be forced to use a system I don't want to use. EA is going to shoot themselves in the foot with this one. No mod tools, exclusive pre-order bonuses, and no Steam? Good luck with overthrowing CoD you fuckin' morons.
Because it's so hard to get your ass to a brick and mortar store?
Its a 40 minute drive for some of us.

OT: Last I checked the latest Dragon Age DLC isn't available on steam either. Between that, Star Wars, Crysis and Battlefield its looking like EA is trying to get a array of exclusives to get people to install origin on their machines.
If you're a 40 minute drive from any kind of store that carries such games, you usually aren't going to have top notch internet to download games that are 10 gigs or bigger. Or you're paying an arm and a leg for the service.

I'm really tired of that excuse, because 9 times out of 10, the person is making it up, and they have a Super Target or Walmart 10 feet from their home.
I may get Battlefield 3 for PS3, I'm probably also getting MW3 for my PS3 as well. When it comes to PC games, I HATE physical copies of it. I haven't bought a physical copy of a game for PC since I bought Warcraft 2 Battle Net Edition. I'm not going to buy Battlefield 3 on PC as a hard copy simply because EA is a baby and wants to have it on their own DDS. I don't want to download Origin just to play a single game, if they did it like Blizzard and sold it from their site but didn't make me download another DDS, then that would be fine but as it stands, Steam gives me all the features I need as well as all the games I need, so I'll stick with that.
 

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I don't buy digital anyway so I don't really care but if I did, I can't imagine being upset about having to go to Origin instead of Steam. Because let's face it, when I "go to" either one, my ass never leaves my chair. So what's the big deal? (And please don't tell me it's all about not installing unwanted, resource-sucking software on your PC. You installed Steam, right?)
That's actually not the point. Yes, juggling multiple DDCs on your computer would be annoying and having one unified system that works pretty well rather than multiple seems like a smarter choice, but that's just part of the argument. Steam's been around for almost a decade, run by an amazing game company and has become a firm bedrock of PC gaming. EA on the other hand have made so many bad moves in the last decade that have pissed off so many people, gamers and non-gamers alike, buying studios and destroying their franchises, really bad marketing decisions and generally coming across as money grabbing douchebags with things like DLC released the same day games are. The worst you could really say about Valve is that they're taking their time with Half Life 2 Episode 3 and grumble about TF2 hats.

Origin just feels like EA's latest attempt to further dominate the industry they already dominate extensively, and a new cash cow for them to beat on, and denying their main competitor access to titles developed by them and studios they've swallowed confirms this. EA is turning this into a case of Steam vs Origin by pulling their titles (and no-one's convinced by their statements) which ultimately comes down to a well established service with a solid and active community from a company who seem to genuinely care about gaming vs a new service that is blatantly a new cash cow from a company that seems to just be interested in getting our money. They realised Valve has the majority share of the digital distribution market and wanted a piece of that pie, which is fair enough - they are a games publisher, but they're coming in late and being massive dicks about it. Especially as Valve praised them as partners on the non-Steam releases of many of their games. Maybe being massive dicks is the best way they can think of to get publicity these days.

Ultimately, if there's an EA game I want (and however badly they can behave, they do release some really good games) and I can't get it on Steam, I'll buy it boxed from a retailer and pray I won't need to install Origin to make it work, or buy it from another digital distributor that they haven't targeted. EA have built up a lot of bad will with gamers for their business practices and dick moves like this just adds fuel to that fire.
 

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thedeathscythe said:
Frostbite3789 said:
castlewise said:
Frostbite3789 said:
ImprovizoR said:
Well that makes things pretty simple then, doesn't it? I won't buy the game. I will not be forced to use a system I don't want to use. EA is going to shoot themselves in the foot with this one. No mod tools, exclusive pre-order bonuses, and no Steam? Good luck with overthrowing CoD you fuckin' morons.
Because it's so hard to get your ass to a brick and mortar store?
Its a 40 minute drive for some of us.

OT: Last I checked the latest Dragon Age DLC isn't available on steam either. Between that, Star Wars, Crysis and Battlefield its looking like EA is trying to get a array of exclusives to get people to install origin on their machines.
If you're a 40 minute drive from any kind of store that carries such games, you usually aren't going to have top notch internet to download games that are 10 gigs or bigger. Or you're paying an arm and a leg for the service.

I'm really tired of that excuse, because 9 times out of 10, the person is making it up, and they have a Super Target or Walmart 10 feet from their home.
I may get Battlefield 3 for PS3, I'm probably also getting MW3 for my PS3 as well. When it comes to PC games, I HATE physical copies of it. I haven't bought a physical copy of a game for PC since I bought Warcraft 2 Battle Net Edition. I'm not going to buy Battlefield 3 on PC as a hard copy simply because EA is a baby and wants to have it on their own DDS. I don't want to download Origin just to play a single game, if they did it like Blizzard and sold it from their site but didn't make me download another DDS, then that would be fine but as it stands, Steam gives me all the features I need as well as all the games I need, so I'll stick with that.
Seems strange to me you are so against a physical copy on a computer but also state you will play it on PS3, which of course is a physical copy. I personally could never see myself play a multiplayer shooter on a console. The mouse and keyboard are so much more precise.

I too prefer a digital copy, but I certainly would not turn to a console instead of buying a physical copy. Oh well, to each their own.

Who knows, maybe I will actually give D2D a try. They do have lots of good deals, including BF3 pre order already at 10% off. Plus they often have coupon codes good for every game. They recently had one that was 15% off which could be additional to the 10% off BF3. I was very close to ordering it. As I mentioned before I hate having multiple download services, but at least D2D has good prices. Origin sucks for prices, and it's only EA games.
 

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Jeez EA, I was almost interested in this game.

Every news piece since E3 has reminded me of what horrible people run that company.
 

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thedeathscythe said:
Amazon will probably have a downloadable version available as they do for games these days sometimes. With no DDS required. It'd just be a shame to get the console version over it not being on Steam.

64 player battles.
 

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ImprovizoR said:
Well that makes things pretty simple then, doesn't it? I won't buy the game. I will not be forced to use a system I don't want to use. EA is going to shoot themselves in the foot with this one. No mod tools, exclusive pre-order bonuses, and no Steam? Good luck with overthrowing CoD you fuckin' morons.
You do realize the pre-order bonuses aren't exclusives? They're just earlier access to weapons and perks everyone unlocks eventually.

As for the mod tools DICE already offered a pretty good explanation as to why thats not going to happen.

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad-company-2-pc/1350772-so-how-about-modtools.html
 

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I wasn't really interested in this, but I'm tempted to not buy anything that requires Origin for the way EA is treating their games now... Every reason they've given for why Crysis 2 was pulled from Steam was a load of shit. Plus the whole "one year rental" thing really turned me off of Origin, but I guess they removed that. So, they made one smart choice at least...
 

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I will get it anyway. Also: a little competition isn't a bad thing.
 

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Jegsimmons said:
battlefield on steam? how long would it take to download anyway? after all even battlefield 2 takes a fuck ton of effort just to RUN and optimal performance. not to mention about 5 gigs worth of memory. besides, i'll just buy the disc anyway.
Just saying, the disk space required for the disk version is 15G whilst the digital is 10.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/07/11/gamestop-leaks-battlefield-3-pc-specs.aspx

All I hear is "Please pirate our game"
 

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Guess who's not buying BF3? me. Guess who probably won't buy TOR? also me.

you want to unseat steam by building a better service? knock yourself out. you want to try to unseat steam by withholding flagship titles? have fun missing your sales goals.
 

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Fluffles said:
Jegsimmons said:
battlefield on steam? how long would it take to download anyway? after all even battlefield 2 takes a fuck ton of effort just to RUN and optimal performance. not to mention about 5 gigs worth of memory. besides, i'll just buy the disc anyway.
Just saying, the disk space required for the disk version is 15G whilst the digital is 10.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/07/11/gamestop-leaks-battlefield-3-pc-specs.aspx

All I hear is "Please pirate our game"
How does that make any sense? Wouldn't logic dictate that the disk version would require less space as the digital version requires every last byte of data to be installed to your system while with a disk, some things stay on the disk?
 

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Its not like anything is solid atm, so all this is just commentary. As said in the article, steam and ea may be hammering out an agreement. If its true, ill just use origin, doesn't hugely matter to me. But if ea thinks im using origin for anything else, no thanks.
 

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The reason that Valve pulled Crysis 2 was because it had DLC for it that wasn't available for purchase via steam. Instead, you would need to use D2D to download it, this violated Valve's Publisher's agreement and they decided to pull it because of that.

Unless EA is having DLC available exclusively through someone else, I am sure they will put it on steam, they might put it up 2 days before launch, but they will put it up. EA is just a little slow.
 

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scott91575 said:
1. Seems strange to me you are so against a physical copy on a computer but also state you will play it on PS3, which of course is a physical copy. I personally could never see myself play a multiplayer shooter on a console. The mouse and keyboard are so much more precise.

2. I too prefer a digital copy, but I certainly would not turn to a console instead of buying a physical copy. Oh well, to each their own.

Who knows, maybe I will actually give D2D a try. They do have lots of good deals, including BF3 pre order already at 10% off. Plus they often have coupon codes good for every game. They recently had one that was 15% off which could be additional to the 10% off BF3. I was very close to ordering it. As I mentioned before I hate having multiple download services, but at least D2D has good prices. Origin sucks for prices, and it's only EA games.
1. I know it seems strange, but the mediums are just so different. Yes, they both play games, but I think PC gaming shifted entirely from physical copies years ago, and it's a step backwards to support it by buying a game for PC as a physical copy. For PS3, it's just shifting to being direct download, and I have bought any game I would buy a physical copy of, I'll instead buy the digital copy if it's available (God of War remakes, Burnout Paradise, Socom Confrontation). So because it's not as readily available, I can't quite support it, but good point, and I totally see where you're coming from and if you can't really see that reasoning, then we'll just have to agree to disagree, since for some reason, that all makes sense to me, haha.

2. See, I'm a console gamer turned PC gamer. I've always PC gamed here and there, but only lately have I been making a big step towards it, I think in the last 3 years I really started devoting larger amounts of time to PC gaming. So for me, I still like console shooters, although I do know the benefits of using a mouse and also the disadvantages (analog control for your body has benefits over WSAD, but it depends on if that coupled with an analog aiming is your bag of tea, versus dead accurate mouse aiming, but that's a whole other topic. Point is, I completely support both, and in fact, am quickly moving towards mouse and keyboard).

The other person I quoted reminded me of Amazon's DDS, which doesn't require an install and it's own garbage to take care of, and if D2D is like that, I may go for one of those. I'm almost thinking that EA just wants to have it exclusively on certain services and will later add it to Steam. It reminds me of how someone will make a game for a console saying "It's impossible to make it for the opposition" but then 6 months later, it comes out for the opposition. I'm kinda banking on that.

Now I'm typing way more than I wanted to, but I just bought Battlefield BC 2 off Steam because of the sale, so chances are, I won't really mind waiting since I can keep playing that.
Frostbite3789 said:
thedeathscythe said:
Amazon will probably have a downloadable version available as they do for games these days sometimes. With no DDS required. It'd just be a shame to get the console version over it not being on Steam.

64 player battles.
You bring up a good point good sir. I do own games multiple times for multiple system (I own Call of Duty MW2 and Black Ops twice, once on PS3 and once on 360) so chances are, I'll get it first for a console, and then later on Steam, possibly through Amazon. I am hoping that it comes out for Steam at a later date, however.