Battlefield 3 May Not Reach Steam

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Assassin Xaero

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I wasn't really interested in this, but I'm tempted to not buy anything that requires Origin for the way EA is treating their games now... Every reason they've given for why Crysis 2 was pulled from Steam was a load of shit. Plus the whole "one year rental" thing really turned me off of Origin, but I guess they removed that. So, they made one smart choice at least...
 

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I will get it anyway. Also: a little competition isn't a bad thing.
 

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Jegsimmons said:
battlefield on steam? how long would it take to download anyway? after all even battlefield 2 takes a fuck ton of effort just to RUN and optimal performance. not to mention about 5 gigs worth of memory. besides, i'll just buy the disc anyway.
Just saying, the disk space required for the disk version is 15G whilst the digital is 10.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/07/11/gamestop-leaks-battlefield-3-pc-specs.aspx

All I hear is "Please pirate our game"
 

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Guess who's not buying BF3? me. Guess who probably won't buy TOR? also me.

you want to unseat steam by building a better service? knock yourself out. you want to try to unseat steam by withholding flagship titles? have fun missing your sales goals.
 

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Fluffles said:
Jegsimmons said:
battlefield on steam? how long would it take to download anyway? after all even battlefield 2 takes a fuck ton of effort just to RUN and optimal performance. not to mention about 5 gigs worth of memory. besides, i'll just buy the disc anyway.
Just saying, the disk space required for the disk version is 15G whilst the digital is 10.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/07/11/gamestop-leaks-battlefield-3-pc-specs.aspx

All I hear is "Please pirate our game"
How does that make any sense? Wouldn't logic dictate that the disk version would require less space as the digital version requires every last byte of data to be installed to your system while with a disk, some things stay on the disk?
 

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Its not like anything is solid atm, so all this is just commentary. As said in the article, steam and ea may be hammering out an agreement. If its true, ill just use origin, doesn't hugely matter to me. But if ea thinks im using origin for anything else, no thanks.
 

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The reason that Valve pulled Crysis 2 was because it had DLC for it that wasn't available for purchase via steam. Instead, you would need to use D2D to download it, this violated Valve's Publisher's agreement and they decided to pull it because of that.

Unless EA is having DLC available exclusively through someone else, I am sure they will put it on steam, they might put it up 2 days before launch, but they will put it up. EA is just a little slow.
 

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1. Seems strange to me you are so against a physical copy on a computer but also state you will play it on PS3, which of course is a physical copy. I personally could never see myself play a multiplayer shooter on a console. The mouse and keyboard are so much more precise.

2. I too prefer a digital copy, but I certainly would not turn to a console instead of buying a physical copy. Oh well, to each their own.

Who knows, maybe I will actually give D2D a try. They do have lots of good deals, including BF3 pre order already at 10% off. Plus they often have coupon codes good for every game. They recently had one that was 15% off which could be additional to the 10% off BF3. I was very close to ordering it. As I mentioned before I hate having multiple download services, but at least D2D has good prices. Origin sucks for prices, and it's only EA games.
1. I know it seems strange, but the mediums are just so different. Yes, they both play games, but I think PC gaming shifted entirely from physical copies years ago, and it's a step backwards to support it by buying a game for PC as a physical copy. For PS3, it's just shifting to being direct download, and I have bought any game I would buy a physical copy of, I'll instead buy the digital copy if it's available (God of War remakes, Burnout Paradise, Socom Confrontation). So because it's not as readily available, I can't quite support it, but good point, and I totally see where you're coming from and if you can't really see that reasoning, then we'll just have to agree to disagree, since for some reason, that all makes sense to me, haha.

2. See, I'm a console gamer turned PC gamer. I've always PC gamed here and there, but only lately have I been making a big step towards it, I think in the last 3 years I really started devoting larger amounts of time to PC gaming. So for me, I still like console shooters, although I do know the benefits of using a mouse and also the disadvantages (analog control for your body has benefits over WSAD, but it depends on if that coupled with an analog aiming is your bag of tea, versus dead accurate mouse aiming, but that's a whole other topic. Point is, I completely support both, and in fact, am quickly moving towards mouse and keyboard).

The other person I quoted reminded me of Amazon's DDS, which doesn't require an install and it's own garbage to take care of, and if D2D is like that, I may go for one of those. I'm almost thinking that EA just wants to have it exclusively on certain services and will later add it to Steam. It reminds me of how someone will make a game for a console saying "It's impossible to make it for the opposition" but then 6 months later, it comes out for the opposition. I'm kinda banking on that.

Now I'm typing way more than I wanted to, but I just bought Battlefield BC 2 off Steam because of the sale, so chances are, I won't really mind waiting since I can keep playing that.
Frostbite3789 said:
thedeathscythe said:
Amazon will probably have a downloadable version available as they do for games these days sometimes. With no DDS required. It'd just be a shame to get the console version over it not being on Steam.

64 player battles.
You bring up a good point good sir. I do own games multiple times for multiple system (I own Call of Duty MW2 and Black Ops twice, once on PS3 and once on 360) so chances are, I'll get it first for a console, and then later on Steam, possibly through Amazon. I am hoping that it comes out for Steam at a later date, however.
 

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It seems like Valve is denying EA Steam access to protect their dominance of the downloadable market. It's ok that they're being dicks, though, because they're doing it to the biggest dicks in the industry.
 

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Wicky_42 said:
Was wondering where the BF3 pre-order was on Steam. Ended up ordering a physical copy from Amazon - I can't be arsed with more than one digital distribution client running on my PC.
Quoted for the Truth.

I have Steam and greenmangaming running right now.

I had xfire and wegame running at another point.

I don't want GFWL or some new service running. It's irritating.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
Because let's face it, when I "go to" either one, my ass never leaves my chair. So what's the big deal? (And please don't tell me it's all about not installing unwanted, resource-sucking software on your PC. You installed Steam, right?)
Way to shill for EA, mate.

The problem with your reasoning is that if I -have- to have a resource drain on my PC, I only want to deal with one. Preferably one that is well established and created by a company that doesn't suck as much as EA.
 

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"When a download service forbids publishers from contacting players with patches, new levels, items and other services - it disrupts our ability to provide the ongoing support players expect from us. At present, this is the case with only one download service,"

Translation from deceptive-speak: "Steam policies allows too much relative privacy to customers, which makes it too difficult for us to cram as much spam as we'd like down their throats. Not that that's really the issue at the end of the day - we've just found an excuse to exclude our biggest competitor."
 

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Hmm, I must say I don't know what to think of this. I mean, I buy all my PC games digitally and I really don't want to be bothered to download another digital distribution service just for ONE game, or pay 10 dollars more for a physical copy. But on the other side I adore the battlefield series. Well, I hope it goes to steam, but if not, I'll probably just buy a different game. However I can see myself caving in soon after the launch.
 

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On today's episode of "Marketing Fails"...

And the thing is, most of the Steam users will just buy retail instead of getting Origin.
 

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I kinda figured this would happen when Origin was annouced. That I typically care, I'm getting it for PC no matter what. Not every PC game I own needs to be on Steam, though it would certainly look neater.
 

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I guess EA is allergic to money. I could give a flying fuck about having to use Origin, but the thing is, Steam - and Valve - have done nothing but right by PC gamers for a long, long time. Steam offers genuinely helpful features - a data cloud for savegames, installation on infinite PCs, an instant-messaging service that is actually good. Meanwhile, what has EA offered before? Horrible DRM on games like Spore, and EA Download Manager. What did those offerings give to consumers? ...the ability to be locked out of the game they owned! OH JOY!!

...point is, Origin doesn't look to offer anything over Steam, only alongside it. Even with a massive library of exclusives, it doesn't make the Origin any less of middleware. Steam is a great program with an insane library of games and a lot of great features that make owning a game on Steam - if you buy digitally, anyway - better than going to another service like Impulse. Valve has their monopoly on this for a reason - because they did it first, and they did it right.

Andy Chalk said:
(And please don't tell me it's all about not installing unwanted, resource-sucking software on your PC. You installed Steam, right?)
Apparently Origin is not a client service like Steam, only a storefront and registration thingo. (Like Games for Windows Live, I guess. There's no outside program, it all operates from within the game itself.) So it's not about that, really. But since it's not, surely if people wanted to buy and own their game from Steam - even if it was for a slight premium over Origin - should have no restriction for doing that? Especially seeing as Battlefield 2 and Bad Company 2 have sold incredibly well over Steam. Y'think EA wouldn't mind that kind of cashflow when their service is hardly a direct competitor to Steam.