Battlefield 3 May Not Reach Steam

Double A

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It seems like Valve is denying EA Steam access to protect their dominance of the downloadable market. It's ok that they're being dicks, though, because they're doing it to the biggest dicks in the industry.
 

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Wicky_42 said:
Was wondering where the BF3 pre-order was on Steam. Ended up ordering a physical copy from Amazon - I can't be arsed with more than one digital distribution client running on my PC.
Quoted for the Truth.

I have Steam and greenmangaming running right now.

I had xfire and wegame running at another point.

I don't want GFWL or some new service running. It's irritating.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
Because let's face it, when I "go to" either one, my ass never leaves my chair. So what's the big deal? (And please don't tell me it's all about not installing unwanted, resource-sucking software on your PC. You installed Steam, right?)
Way to shill for EA, mate.

The problem with your reasoning is that if I -have- to have a resource drain on my PC, I only want to deal with one. Preferably one that is well established and created by a company that doesn't suck as much as EA.
 

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"When a download service forbids publishers from contacting players with patches, new levels, items and other services - it disrupts our ability to provide the ongoing support players expect from us. At present, this is the case with only one download service,"

Translation from deceptive-speak: "Steam policies allows too much relative privacy to customers, which makes it too difficult for us to cram as much spam as we'd like down their throats. Not that that's really the issue at the end of the day - we've just found an excuse to exclude our biggest competitor."
 

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Hmm, I must say I don't know what to think of this. I mean, I buy all my PC games digitally and I really don't want to be bothered to download another digital distribution service just for ONE game, or pay 10 dollars more for a physical copy. But on the other side I adore the battlefield series. Well, I hope it goes to steam, but if not, I'll probably just buy a different game. However I can see myself caving in soon after the launch.
 

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On today's episode of "Marketing Fails"...

And the thing is, most of the Steam users will just buy retail instead of getting Origin.
 

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I kinda figured this would happen when Origin was annouced. That I typically care, I'm getting it for PC no matter what. Not every PC game I own needs to be on Steam, though it would certainly look neater.
 

Andy of Comix Inc

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I guess EA is allergic to money. I could give a flying fuck about having to use Origin, but the thing is, Steam - and Valve - have done nothing but right by PC gamers for a long, long time. Steam offers genuinely helpful features - a data cloud for savegames, installation on infinite PCs, an instant-messaging service that is actually good. Meanwhile, what has EA offered before? Horrible DRM on games like Spore, and EA Download Manager. What did those offerings give to consumers? ...the ability to be locked out of the game they owned! OH JOY!!

...point is, Origin doesn't look to offer anything over Steam, only alongside it. Even with a massive library of exclusives, it doesn't make the Origin any less of middleware. Steam is a great program with an insane library of games and a lot of great features that make owning a game on Steam - if you buy digitally, anyway - better than going to another service like Impulse. Valve has their monopoly on this for a reason - because they did it first, and they did it right.

Andy Chalk said:
(And please don't tell me it's all about not installing unwanted, resource-sucking software on your PC. You installed Steam, right?)
Apparently Origin is not a client service like Steam, only a storefront and registration thingo. (Like Games for Windows Live, I guess. There's no outside program, it all operates from within the game itself.) So it's not about that, really. But since it's not, surely if people wanted to buy and own their game from Steam - even if it was for a slight premium over Origin - should have no restriction for doing that? Especially seeing as Battlefield 2 and Bad Company 2 have sold incredibly well over Steam. Y'think EA wouldn't mind that kind of cashflow when their service is hardly a direct competitor to Steam.
 

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Skopintsev said:
I kinda figured this would happen when Origin was annouced. That I typically care, I'm getting it for PC no matter what. Not every PC game I own needs to be on Steam, though it would certainly look neater.
I agree, I tend to buy games not on steam in the case of collectors copies or I happen to stumble on it cheaper than online. I guess the thing is the convenience. All your patching is done automatically, not to mention prepurchase discounts as well as the fact that there's no taxes charged online, unless you live in the same state as Valve HQ. Not to mention, being a Canadian, our dollar is now worth more than the US dollar, so I save a little more money on top of the taxes.
 

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I wouldn't mind even if I get it on my PC. Why? Because it's just another program which is basically a tag-along to a game. Nothing bad.
 

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twm1709 said:
As much as I love Steam, a monopoly has never been good for the consumer.
Being able to buy Borderlands for $7.50, BFBC2 for $5.00, and four other games for less than $10 total begs to differ. At what point are amazing deals for great games bad for the consumer?
 

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Oh boohoo, so BF3 has moved from one completely pointless free software to another.
 

Logarithmic Limbo

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Bags159 said:
twm1709 said:
As much as I love Steam, a monopoly has never been good for the consumer.
Being able to buy Borderlands for $7.50, BFBC2 for $5.00, and four other games for less than $10 total begs to differ. At what point are amazing deals for great games bad for the consumer?
Amen. Besides, there are other DDS out there so Steam does not have a monopoly. They simply are the best out there atm.
 

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Oh people, you so mad. Installing Origins will probably take 5 mintues top. You are being silly about this.
 

Strazdas

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Good. Maybe more games will stick to this model. who wants a game that requires a 3rd party program to run anyway?
 

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ImprovizoR said:
Well that makes things pretty simple then, doesn't it? I won't buy the game. I will not be forced to use a system I don't want to use. EA is going to shoot themselves in the foot with this one. No mod tools, exclusive pre-order bonuses, and no Steam? Good luck with overthrowing CoD you fuckin' morons.
You do realize the pre-order bonuses aren't exclusives? They're just earlier access to weapons and perks everyone unlocks eventually.

As for the mod tools DICE already offered a pretty good explanation as to why thats not going to happen.

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad-company-2-pc/1350772-so-how-about-modtools.html
That explanation is an insult for everyone with an IQ higher than 60.
Frostbite3789 said:
Because it's so hard to get your ass to a brick and mortar store?
Do you really think I wouldn't get a hard copy if I could. There are no video game stores in my country. If I order one from somewhere else I'll pay twice as much because of the damn customs. All I'm left with is a digital copy. And with Steam, I can download my game whenever I want without having to pay for it again and again and again. Apparently, you have to pay extra if you want to re-download games you bought on Origin 6 months after you've purchased it.