Behold the Next Generation of Final Fantasy
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Yea graphics are good....but its limited gameplay is the result. Think about FF13 (looked amazing right?) the combat was "press buttons to fill up a queue and watch character use all those abilities at once" scripted movements that you don't control, only put commands for. Its no different from turned based combat. When you're walking around though.....its just that. Walking. The characters can only walk. Even jumping is only done when standing on a node and pressing a button. NPCs stand there and wait for you to talk to them, environments are static. Every important movement is done in a cutscene. Its nice, but having the lack of input makes for a very unengaging game.
Because cute. Also to put in some BS theme about being pure and not being able to be corrupted by the enemies and use powers for good. Same stuff we always get really.DVS BSTrD said:
Overly caring, not taking a firefight seriously, moaning/crying/whining/wincing all the time, being clumsy in her movements and tripping over herself. You're part of a cult and you have to cry and wince every time you use lightning against an ARMED ASSAILANT? Its the typical cute anime girl that we know Sqeenix for. If it was a monotone android female like Lightning then it wouldn't be much of a problem.Mygaffer said:
Yeah, all tech demos should have gameplay... You do know what a tech demo is, right? This is not a preview or a teaser for an upcoming game. This is just a demonstration of what the engine they most likely will use for the next game is capable of.KingdomFantasyXIII said:
OT: It looks pretty, but this is clearly far too much for any console out now so the next game wont look this good unless it's released for PC and then only the best will manage this. I don't see a reason to get my hopes up.
Ugh, You know what, if this game doesn't rewrite the way we play and experience games for all eternity in a good way, I say Squareenix is beyond redeeming, short of giving me all my wasted money, effort and time back. I'm tired of being insulted by their crap, even if I don't play their crummy games. The fact that they aren't even trying to make a game compelling anymore except through its graphics is both a slap to the face and a big fak you to its audience. The only way I can see them in a better light is if one day they came out and said "Lol, we trolled you, U mad" to everyone. At least then I'll know it's okay to laugh about the whole thing.
To be fair, none of the other lightning-wielding-goons seemed to be having much more success. It was like they all had faulty starter-motors or something.DVS BSTrD said:
If I was Mr-In-Charge, I would have demanded that everyone practice their sparky-magic before attempting the clearly-unpopular dragon-summoning ritual. There will be no interruption by armed local militants on my watch. *shakes gnarled fist*
OT: Beautiful tech demo. I like a lot.
The problem is, if they try too hard and overtax the platform they bring games out on, you end up with:
Not enough RAM to keep more than a dozen models on screen!
Can't allow the player to move around too much 'cos it takes too much power to render more than one side of a distant object!
Can't have too much variety of models at once 'cos RAM!
You end up with levels that are one long corridor, encounters with only a handful of samey type of foes at once, and boss battles that require half minute load times.
YOU SEE THE FUCKING PROBLEM, SQUEENIX?
Not enough RAM to keep more than a dozen models on screen!
Can't allow the player to move around too much 'cos it takes too much power to render more than one side of a distant object!
Can't have too much variety of models at once 'cos RAM!
You end up with levels that are one long corridor, encounters with only a handful of samey type of foes at once, and boss battles that require half minute load times.
YOU SEE THE FUCKING PROBLEM, SQUEENIX?
Lots of people complaining on how its "just" pretty and how no gameplay was shown, so its useless. Sorry if this sound very ungamer like than most of groups but the graphics by them selves are enough to get me extremely interested.
People hear Final Fantasy and it has an extremely polarizing effect, but I don't see what's the use of complaining on the graphics of a tech demo. That's what they're for to show off the art though the game engine they're using, they don't usually show any gameplay. That's what gameplay trailers are for, and considering this isn't even the actual game then, no you won't see anything.
I for one is excited for next gen will bring to all the graphics in future games.
People hear Final Fantasy and it has an extremely polarizing effect, but I don't see what's the use of complaining on the graphics of a tech demo. That's what they're for to show off the art though the game engine they're using, they don't usually show any gameplay. That's what gameplay trailers are for, and considering this isn't even the actual game then, no you won't see anything.
I for one is excited for next gen will bring to all the graphics in future games.
I'm wondering if that drink is a potion. It certainly looked like it, and it's interesting to see a potion's effect (the scars disappearing, the bullet forced out of her healing arm) with better graphics.
Even though it is just a tech demo, it is kinda nice to see a Square game where everyone isn't dressed like they just escaped from the circus.
If this is the ground work for FF15, the game will be done around 2020 at the earliest. The PS3 and ESPECIALLY the Xbox360 can not push this sort of fidelity. Even if, hypothetically, they could, the 360 verison of the game would be a 20 DVD set. Hell they had to hack 13 to pieces to fit it onto 4.
I hate it when people say that the combat in XIII is just button pushing. Most of the bosses in the game will stomp the entire party into the ground if you just press X the whole time. This is why I loved XIII's gameplay. On the surface, it looks like the game does everything for you. But in reality, there is an whole lot of strategy involved. XIII's biggest problem was its long looooong intro, which hid everything good about it till late in the game. Like the characters. People often say they don't like them but I thought all the XIII characters were great because they actually had character growth. Didn't like Vanille at the beginning? Well, at the end she is more likable since she grows as a character. Same with all the other characters. But again the games takes too long to get into it so people miss out on that.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
OT: That looks amazing, but I'm not going to get excited till they announce something. For now, I'll just wait for Verses XIII
Square Enix: "Oh hey, everyone. While you've been taking the piss about the linearity of FFXIII and claiming the end of good Final Fantasy games, we've been making an engine and graphics system that puts all of your current favorite titles to shame. Funny, huh?"
You have my attention, SE.
You have my attention, SE.
*goes to Final Fantasy thread*Gizmo1990 said:
*sees obligatory whiny posts*
Yep. Typical day in the webz.
By the way, awesome tech demo. Can't wait to see what's next.
Hm, it seems that Square Enix is coming out of the final stages of its awkward puberty only to emerge as a beautiful woman.