BioShock Infinite Review: A Head in the Clouds
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There. I see it. What you did. And yeah, they really should do a straight up remake of those two in a collection to release on the consoles. One massive game using the system set up from 2 as one continuous adventure.XMark said:I'm wondering... Bioshock was underwater, Bioshock Infinite is up in the sky. It would only be logical for the next "Shock" game to take place in space. Perhaps in the future. With, oh, I dunno, some kind of evil AI villain.
OT: I have to wait a bit longer to get paid so I can finally get the damn thing. I HATE waiting.
Coelacanth spotted, tagged and released back into the wild.DrunkOnEstus said:
You two. You two people made my freakin' week. Here's your damned hands:
It wouldn't seem so. It takes place decades before and uses different political motivations. The original was based solidly on Objectivist philosophy and I refuse to talk about the second one because it's not much more than a cash in, in my opinion. The battle in Colombia is more between Fascists and Anarchists, as far as I can tell.jFr[e said:
Well, now that that's taken care of, I already had to get this game for reasons that should be readily apparent. Now I seriously can't even wait to get my hands on it and disappear from the world for a little while. Fuck, I've got to work on Wednesday.
So, I figured... "You know what? I can wait a bit for Infinite. My 3DS's library is lacking, I'll go grab Luigi's Mansion instead."
But lo and behold, they buggered up the shipping in my area and were completely sold out.
I guess I was fated to get BioShock Infinite this week.
But lo and behold, they buggered up the shipping in my area and were completely sold out.
I guess I was fated to get BioShock Infinite this week.
REMEMBER CITADEL!XMark said:I'm wondering... Bioshock was underwater, Bioshock Infinite is up in the sky. It would only be logical for the next "Shock" game to take place in space. Perhaps in the future. With, oh, I dunno, some kind of evil AI villain.
I'm on the fence with this one, as Bioshock is one pf those game where terrible gameplay persuaded me to not to finish the game. I'll give it some time and see what it looks like.when the lustre fades. Plus I'm sick of playing as reprehensible protagonists who I want to die. It makes it hard to find the effort to play.
This wasn't a day 1 purchase or pre-order game for me until Steam decided to give away X-com for free.
To relatively new games I want to get for the price of one? Works for me.
I only hope Infinite actually lives up to the hype.
Bioshock 2 was really well received but was a very boring experience IMO.
It's best story elements didn't even meet up with the originals worst.
To relatively new games I want to get for the price of one? Works for me.
I only hope Infinite actually lives up to the hype.
Bioshock 2 was really well received but was a very boring experience IMO.
It's best story elements didn't even meet up with the originals worst.
Susan, what changes in Super Duper Incredihard mode? We haven't played it, so it's not easy for us to see what you mean by "more challenge." Does Elizabeth just not revive you on the hardest difficulty, like how completely turning off the respawn chambers was in the first game? Or does she have like a limited number of revives? Or is it like System Shock 2 where money is finite and absolutely VITAL to advance?Susan Arendt said:
Without one of those things being true, infinite respawns is still infinite respawns, and a kick in the wallet is still just a kick in the wallet.
It's annoying when I die several times in a row in Borderlands and lose most of my money, but I know in my heart of hearts I will eventually make it back from regular grinding and looting. Is that also the case in Bioshock Infinite? Is advancement FROM one checkpoint to the next before the enemies can respawn the actual challenge? Well, wait. It almost can't be, since you fall wherever you die and then Elizabeth runs over to you and revives you (I assume) where you fell. Unless everything fades to black and you revive in some nearby safehouse that acts as a checkpoint, you can respawn a million times gaining five feet every death until you reach the next story goal.
So please, elaborate. How exactly does the game manage to be challenging despite (what appears to be) an unlimited respawn system? If it's too complex to explain fully, then please describe one example of a point in the game where it took you a few deaths to advance on Uberhard Whatever You Said Mode, and what game-changing tactic finally got you past it?
Did you play the sequel? Cause it´s actually quite good, some cool areas, very neat weapons and skills and the story isn´t all bad, though the voice acting is a bit on the weak side. In many ways i prefer it to Bioshock 1.WouldYouKindly said:
Wat. All of the typical GJ reviews will say it's worth getting, so wait for internet scrubs to voice their opinion before laying down any money.thephill said:
Oh, okay. So it sounds like there's no cap or limit on revives. She just keeps reviving you, and you lose a small amount of money each time. Is this correct?Susan Arendt said:
Also I'm assuming by default these days, that there is an infinite amount of money available in the game. For example, by fighting some infinitely respawning easy enemies over and over again, you could easily grind money if you need it for the next upgrade because you died too much previously. Is this correct?
(Captcha: "easy as cake." wow. just wow.)
Oh, I see. I'm not allowed to like Infinite because that's petting the pseudo-intellectual crowd in the right side of the proverbial fur, but I should jump for Tomb Raider's Battered Woman fetish the first chance I get?SoMuchSpace said:
I tried Tomb Raider. Kudos to Crystal Dynamics for making a relatable chapter of Croft's life and for making *her* physically relatable - but honestly? All I got was "Look! Look at how we're hitting her! We're like Sam Raimi when he keeps bashing Bruce Campbell with tree leaves and a fake chainsaw, off-screen! WE TORTURE OUR HEROINE SO YOU CARE! PLEASE, PLAYER! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, CARE FOR HER OR ELSE WE'LL HAVE TO DECAPITATE HER IN THE NEXT DEATH CUTSCENE!"
Yeah, no.
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SC is Sim City. Not that Infinite was ever going to be crashing servers. But having the same AI problems would royally suck.chozo_hybrid said:
Can't wait to play this.
Ah, okay. I got it now. Sorry for bothering you, Susan. When you jumped into the conversation, it distracted me.
1: When your health reaches zero, does Elizabeth revive you in the same spot where you died?
2: Are there a limit to the number of times Elizabeth will revive you before it's Game Over and you lose some sort of progress?
3: When Elizabeth revives you, do the enemies you were fighting heal/respawn?
4: On average, how long does it take for Elizabeth to revive you after your health reaches zero?
5: Is it possible to play the game into a state where beating the game becomes impossible as a result of dying too much?
6: What, if anything, makes cunning planning and skilled execution a more optimal strategy for beating the game than just blasting your way through the fights without paying attention to whether or not the player dies a lot?
7: What extrinsic rewards are there for dying less? (For example, getting 100% completion like in Kirby's Epic Yarn?)
8: Is there anything else you think I should know about the mechanics and dynamics of the revival system in Bioshock Infinite, which would make the game more appealing to someone who thinks the Vita Chambers made Bioshock "too easy?"
If you cherry-pick which of the previous questions to answer, the people reading this will probably assume that you were hiding something unflattering about the game. I threw you some tomatoes at the end there to make it easy for you to set the record straight if you feel like honest answers to the earlier questions paint the game in too negative a light. It is to your advantage to answer all of the questions. And it definitely helps your readers to have an accurate understanding of how the newest Bioshock game handles the issue of challenge and difficulty.
Mike Wehner:MikeWehner said:
1: When your health reaches zero, does Elizabeth revive you in the same spot where you died?
2: Are there a limit to the number of times Elizabeth will revive you before it's Game Over and you lose some sort of progress?
3: When Elizabeth revives you, do the enemies you were fighting heal/respawn?
4: On average, how long does it take for Elizabeth to revive you after your health reaches zero?
5: Is it possible to play the game into a state where beating the game becomes impossible as a result of dying too much?
6: What, if anything, makes cunning planning and skilled execution a more optimal strategy for beating the game than just blasting your way through the fights without paying attention to whether or not the player dies a lot?
7: What extrinsic rewards are there for dying less? (For example, getting 100% completion like in Kirby's Epic Yarn?)
8: Is there anything else you think I should know about the mechanics and dynamics of the revival system in Bioshock Infinite, which would make the game more appealing to someone who thinks the Vita Chambers made Bioshock "too easy?"
If you cherry-pick which of the previous questions to answer, the people reading this will probably assume that you were hiding something unflattering about the game. I threw you some tomatoes at the end there to make it easy for you to set the record straight if you feel like honest answers to the earlier questions paint the game in too negative a light. It is to your advantage to answer all of the questions. And it definitely helps your readers to have an accurate understanding of how the newest Bioshock game handles the issue of challenge and difficulty.