"Bioshock".... yet another zippy rant.
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As much as I hate to use the term, this.rabidmidget said:
And to continue the originality, I declare this to be a Grammer Nazi picnic.
Anyway, I must disagree with your point on poor AI. Bioshock's AI was good in my opinion.
I agree in spirit with the OP since I am not a big fan of the "ooooh it's an experience" thing. I wasn't a big fan of interactive movies the first time they came around, but then again I suppose with the everyman gaming now I can see why they are making a comeback.
That said I don't see how Bioshock is even remotely confused with that kind of thing. Bioshock is a competant, customizable shooter, with a decent storyline and a fairly unique setting.
I do resent people trying to call Bioshock an RPG (which it is not), but trying to say it's an atmospheric tour (if I understand this correctly) is not correct either. Sure it's not a sandbox, and there are other shooters which admittedly did a lot of the same things better, but there is no denying that it's a pretty solid game along with that atmosphere.
My biggest problem with Bioshock was that they seemed to get a bit sloppy with it. I find it kind of odd that they paid attention to story details while making sure that the corpse of a backround character is mutilated in the right way (someone recently posted a screenshot of this), but never seemed to get around to fixing a glitch where after being disarmed for an event, the proper amount of ammo is never returned to you.
Well that, and I wonder how those potato chips are still fresh enough to be edible after all this time (ditto for the cakes and stuff). Is there some kind of fully automated food production/packaging plant or something? I mean honestly the place was supposed to be self sufficient, but with the total breakdown I was seeing it's a wonder that everyone hasn't starved to death (craving for ADAM aside).
That said I don't see how Bioshock is even remotely confused with that kind of thing. Bioshock is a competant, customizable shooter, with a decent storyline and a fairly unique setting.
I do resent people trying to call Bioshock an RPG (which it is not), but trying to say it's an atmospheric tour (if I understand this correctly) is not correct either. Sure it's not a sandbox, and there are other shooters which admittedly did a lot of the same things better, but there is no denying that it's a pretty solid game along with that atmosphere.
My biggest problem with Bioshock was that they seemed to get a bit sloppy with it. I find it kind of odd that they paid attention to story details while making sure that the corpse of a backround character is mutilated in the right way (someone recently posted a screenshot of this), but never seemed to get around to fixing a glitch where after being disarmed for an event, the proper amount of ammo is never returned to you.
Well that, and I wonder how those potato chips are still fresh enough to be edible after all this time (ditto for the cakes and stuff). Is there some kind of fully automated food production/packaging plant or something? I mean honestly the place was supposed to be self sufficient, but with the total breakdown I was seeing it's a wonder that everyone hasn't starved to death (craving for ADAM aside).
Oh, please. Never said there was nothing wrong with it, so don't pretend that I did. This proves to me that you're simply trolling for attention, rather than trying to actually debate.ZippyDSMlee said:So you are saying the game is fine and there's nothing wrong with it?Susan Arendt said:
I can't let it go they are destroying qaulity left and right for what? Faster development cycles?
The game was launched with glaringly huge issues and everyone seems to not give a damn.... same BS of apathy that had made politics a joke.....
I always come from the direction that they can do mroe with a game so when soemthign is so unfinished I just can not let it go.
now as for trolling that's hard for me to tell because of my bad grammar my opinion tends to be crap then I go and try to have spice it up with humor and it all come across as a doubler negative.... it's not helping that most can not see the flaws in BS do not think it has flaws and that just depresses my opinion of the industry and its consumers more in the end its my opinion that BS could have been better but that did not happen and they didn't even try to fix it which saddens me more..... while alot of people enjoyed it it dose not help me feel the industry and consumer base is over complacent with apathy much how the music industry is.....
I didnt think I had any to begin with, rant is rant after all..... Halo ep 3 is not bad for a 15$ 8-12 hour ep....oh wait..... now ME2 I am a annoyed with they took all the stuff I enjoyed out of it but its not too bad so far MW2 meh worsest of the new COD games..Maraveno said:Halo 3 despite my cruel hate for it isn't a bad game it's actually rather goodZippyDSMlee said:Unfortunately rag reviews default to the standards used by the times, these days they don't sweat the details ,all that matters is if its good enough and good enough equals to above average or more and by those standards mine are to damn high because I expect abit more from a game that talked about giving you more not less.....Maraveno said:
I may as well be a game snobb always wanting more but IMO thats better than being complacent with the dumbed down average of the day.....
Well shallow is,thy name BIOSHOCK! And halo ep 3.......and MW2........ME2...oh wait I need to finish it first.....darn semantics..... *hides*Maraveno said:Hmmm I'll edit it with a snipAxolotl said:
I am just pissed off at the OP's shallow vision
that's all
ME2 Is the perfect game so by god you should get off this forum young troll
MW2 also despite my cruel hate for it is not a bad game
and ofcourse Bioshock and Bioshock 2 are and will be ace!
With this you have lost all credibility
Moving on.
Well, you were certainly right about the rant part. That is: a speech or text that does not present a well-researched and calm argument. Given the lack of logical, or even thoughtful arguments. I'll just pass this on by.ZippyDSMlee said:
What happens when one with poor communication skills tries to tackle a topic that's a bit beyond him? It becomes a train wreck I am not trolling, least not intentionally. I still believe that apathetic consumers and devs have made gaming worse via simplification/mainstreamization but so what it seems my opinion is not only un popular but un supportable because I can not communicate that well.vivaldiscool said:
Also mis placing my frustration on fans of BS is not helping me any... but then I consider consumerism to be based on trend and fad and not qaulity as the modern age works more on advertisement than the true qaulity of the product
anyway way to much agnst,lint and ideas foaming in my head >< and it always seems to come out as incoherent...
some people find the game good, some people find it bad, if you like it, you like it, if you dont, you dont, lets not rant about it please?
Bioshock was a fantastic game, I loved every little aspect of it.
I would go as far to say that it's my favourite game of all time.
If you don't like a game, don't rant about how much you disliked it.
It just makes you seem like a needy wanker.
I would go as far to say that it's my favourite game of all time.
If you don't like a game, don't rant about how much you disliked it.
It just makes you seem like a needy wanker.
I know I've already posted, but this time I actually read what you had to say.
Along with everyone else, I'll call troll.
But I completely disagree with you buddy.
I found that Bioshock's story and environment design was immersive, and the gameplay was the icing on the cake.
The game was fantastic in just about all areas, and allowed for many different styles of gameplay.
Along with everyone else, I'll call troll.
But I completely disagree with you buddy.
I found that Bioshock's story and environment design was immersive, and the gameplay was the icing on the cake.
The game was fantastic in just about all areas, and allowed for many different styles of gameplay.
A lot like your 'rant'. I can't even take offense to it as it looks like it was written by 5 year old who's discovered coffee for the first time.ZippyDSMlee said:
Please, for the love of God, spruce up the OP a tad. I'm not joking when I say it hurts to read.
From what I can tell, we're on the same page on BioShock, but I'm not absolutely certain we are because you just repeatedly chopped the English language in the throat.
From what I can tell, we're on the same page on BioShock, but I'm not absolutely certain we are because you just repeatedly chopped the English language in the throat.
Well its never a good idea tovivaldiscool said:
A
ost with a tree and or head up your rear.B
ost with a chip on shoulder the size of what you think your imaginary ego is.C.Post angry.
This tends to make one sound like a elitist prick or worse..... tho I am use to being the fool so meh.....its my shat now I just have to find my mop and bucket >>
The consuemrs/sheep spewage is nothing new its always been there effecting and changing things over time you either see it or you don't its semantics really, much like art and a good game its in the eye of the beholder.
Still what gets me is they took what could have been a great game down a few pegs by not bothering to finish it and I see this as a huge problem for the industry so much so its made me sell off my current gen consoles more than once....and regret putting all my eggs in my PC more than once.
All I can do is reiterate what I been trying to discuss so poorly about the game is bland and boring once you dare to peel back its theme, if shiny can keep you happy all the time then you are far more lucky than I am.
Dead space wave much more balanced and paced so much better, sure its not a sand box game with various play styles but you didn't need all the flash and fuss to make it such a good game.
How about a 30 something who haz fuzz for brains and uses rocks and occasional cave paintings to bang out grammar with? >>SmartIdiot said:
Oi... are we going to have a lot of bioshock trends like where having with the flood of Mass Effect trends?
(I just had a chill up my spine when i thought about Mass Effect 3... i guess we will find out if thats the main game bioware is working on when PAX east comes around)
(I just had a chill up my spine when i thought about Mass Effect 3... i guess we will find out if thats the main game bioware is working on when PAX east comes around)
Actually the most realistic death system is where if you die the game shuts off and implodes, thus you can never play it again, your forever dead. That would make it the most realistic game, since if you die once you can never play it again. Oh and while we're at it, make FPSes have gun-jams, and lets get rid of magic since it isn't realistic.Rednog said:
See what happens when you make things realistic OP? You get real life, and we play games to escape real life.
Realistic translates to(at least from zippy speak) = excuse to not balance or make it fun(alt fire for weapons,ect).Normalgamer said:
They had a poorly used money system in BS, it seemed to me that in a city system that was fueled on capitalism that money was so poorly used, sure in the wake of the apocalypse money lacks a real purpose beyond heating but the system in place before the fall should still use it and love it thus weapon mods and other things want more of it, now it makes sense that Adam would be needed for plasmids and not money but one could have further balanced it out by needing some money as a way to interface with everything(like make up some odd setup for hacking that used money to balance the device used to hack you fail it takes it all and may not call bots you don;t use enough money you get bots).
It just seemed lacking when it was not used to revive you, if you don't have the money the next time it takes more or it places you further away. This could bring in bots coming down each and every time a hacker is sensed on a vending machine and other little odds and ends that were not even thought of....