Hmm, sounds promising, though sticking with indoc theory for now. Also, why hasn't Zeel been banned yet?
Bioware Confirms Game Extending DLC
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This. Exactly this. Mass Effect was the greatest game series I've played, all of it until the last 10 minutes of 3, but that's beside the point. RPG and Shooter are not mutually exclusive. All the complaints about the "dumbing down" of the series to satisfy the "Halo and CoD fan-boys" were rather unfounded in my opinion. Morality isn't a skill, it's a representation of your actions, so I wasn't that disappointed by ME2's system. 3's was fun too, if a tad annoying at times.scorptatious said:
In any case, Scorptatious is right. You ARE being a pompous prick. You complain about how RPG elements are nowhere to be found, and discount any examples to the contrary. You dismiss any contrary opinions, something I find a lot more in the RPG crowd than any non-12-year-old group of shooter enthusiasts, they might give some crap, but they do it in good fun, or are just trolling, most of the time. People like you just get vile.
It honestly amazes me how you think the whole series has been ruined, when you had to spend at least $120(U.S) for normal ME2&ME3, and probably more for collector editions, DLC, and what ever else. If the only reaction you get from it is pure vitriol, go play something else. Kingdom's of Amalur seemed promising, and looks like a "classic" RPG to me. But what do I know? I'm just a stoopid Hal0 fan-wanker who doesn't understand who infallible you really are.
I would agree, the ending wasn't the quality we expected from Bioware. I wont lie though, I was disappointed and I did sign a couple of the online petitions. I did it because I care about the characters that they made and designed, I really felt like I bonded with them. Garrus, Tali, Miranda, and Mordin were all well written and I really felt like my experience with them shouldn't have ended in the fashion it did. If any of them were going to die, at least let them go out like heroes and not side characters who don't deserve an epitaph.VonKlaw said:
My two cents
Yep, Bioware is gonna provide you the good ending for an additional fee and everyone from the most dedicated apologist to a critic so venomous it makes our buddy Zeel look like a fan-boy will buy it. Then, we'll have the exact same argument we've been having for weeks about this new ending and how it's a cop-out or its poorly written or it sucks or what ever people can ponder up.Tomo Stryker said:
I'd like to say I don't know why they're doing this, but I do, $$$$. They could just stick with the "Screw the fans" ending that they gave you, but that would be insane. They could slap together some insane deus ex ending in 5 minutes, throw it up as DLC for $15, and it would sell in the hundreds of thousands and regardless of how garbage it is there will still be people lavishing praise upon it just like they're doing now.
The world will end when this is announced they have to pay for it.
As much as I want a new ending, they are terrible at PR, thats for damn sure.
As much as I want a new ending, they are terrible at PR, thats for damn sure.
Eh, the fanbase will be up in arms about it. The other half will be foaming at the mouth to get it, they won't care what the price is as long as they get the closure that the game deserves. Kinda sad that Bioware has resorted to EA's method of money making.Terminate421 said:
Well, one: That's Zeel you quoted. He's known for such behavior. Two, people are alternatively upset, angry, sad, cynical and/or tired of all this mess. People in such states tend to be more reactive and hostile. Thus, the cursing and insults.Oro44 said:
I wish he would read a condensed and less vulgar list of things people didn't like about it and apologize for the ending. It should also contain a list of reasons of why he made the ending the way he did.
But, this is just sad. Apologize for the ending, retconn a better ending. Hell, have competitions on who can write the best ending from the fanbase and have the Bioware team choose the fan favourites.
These captchas scare me: read me, write me
But, this is just sad. Apologize for the ending, retconn a better ending. Hell, have competitions on who can write the best ending from the fanbase and have the Bioware team choose the fan favourites.
These captchas scare me: read me, write me
Why must everything be a scorched earth response with you?Zeel said:
'Canerous sore'?
Hyperbole senses, tingling!
This accurately describes his thought processes (sincerest apologies to anyone that just escaped TV Tropes.)Chevalier noir said:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic
Why are you even replying to Zeel anymore? Look at how he talks to you for god's sake.
Here's a summary of the language he uses to describe both the game and the players.
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He didn't post here at all so I assume he had a stroke from stress or something.
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Here's a summary of the language he uses to describe both the game and the players.
<--- a favourite of mine in light of this!
<--- another favourite of mine
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He didn't post here at all so I assume he had a stroke from stress or something.
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<-- this one deserves to be quote verbatim
No. As a consumer, I have the right to a product that did not lie to me. Before you start the whole "BUT THEY DIDN'T PROMISE YOU SHIT" they said in a interview that the endings would not be a linear choice of A for good ending, B for bad ending or C for neutral ending. And what did they do at the very end of the game? They made it a A, B or C ending ripped straight from the Deus Ex 1 ending sequence.OhJohnNo said:
They told us to keep our save files since they would play a hand in the final game, massively. Both minor changes and ending changes, but that wasn't there either.
Entitlement gets thrown around a hell of a lot with the game community, now even Devs and publishers are calling gamers 'entitled' for showing them up on their shit. As a consumer I have the right to oppose or even sue in cases like "False Advertisement" if a company does so, if entitlement is knowing my own rights then I am the most entitled bastard to live.
It should be free because they promised us a ending that would not be A, B or C for each ending, even if you want to get into the fact that our past actions do not matter in the end. Then again, I am talking from the perspective that this DLC will be them doing "The Truth" DLC that someone was speculating at earlier. If it is, then it damn well better be free because they essentially lied about what the ending was going to be like. If it isn't, then they are extorting their fans and customers for money, which in some places is illegal.
The word entitlement holds so little because it is no longer the definition that it once was, now it is just a word used to make smart consumers look like pretentious dicks.
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Still going with the guess that "The Truth" DLC that someone was speculating might be exactly what this is.
I do think that the new weapon system in ME3 was an improvement over that of ME1. The problem with Mass Effect 1's gear (and Dragon Age 1/2 as well) is that there is a very small set of usable endgame gear. By that I mean, if you're level 50 and not wearing predator armor with master spectre weapons, you're doing it wrong. The weapons in Mass Effect 3 are a vast improvement in this regard. In ME3, weapons have different stats, just like in ME1, but they also have variable functionality that can be a benefit or a hindrance given your playstyle. Take, for example, the scimitar shotgun vs the geth plasma shotgun. The scimitar fires quickly but does less damage than any other shotgun while the geth plasma shotgun has a longer range at the cost of capacity and rate of fire. The Geth Plasma is unquestionably an endgame piece and the scimitar is acquired on the second mission. Nonetheless, I still used the scimitar all the way through because it's intrinsic attributes complemented my playstyle. This situation does not occur in mass effect 1 (or either of the two dragon ages). The weapon mod selection was pretty bland and generic, however.Zeel said:
If your that upset with the ending and you pay for this you should be ashamed of yourself, If they make it paid content and then 12 million people buy it what have they learnt? Hmmm if we make the whole game a massive deal and put in a subpar ending..we can exploit the people who are passionate about our game and sell a better ending later 
it really wouldn't surprise me if that was their plan the whole time
it really wouldn't surprise me if that was their plan the whole time
Okie dokie, Zeel.
I can beat it, Indecipherable. Here is a better one:Indecipherable said:
Couple that one with his hypocrite one. Zeel is unaware he is the "wider demographic" games are streamlining for it seems.Zeel said:
This might be the 'The Truth' DLC that was rumored about for a while now. So we still don't know if the indoctrination theory is real or not yet. The Problem is if they say 'we had this planned all along' no will believe them. And maybe they didn't maybe this is just an out.