BioWare Dates Mass Effect 3: Leviathan

[Emiscary]

The answer to your question about whether or not it's worth it is (drumroll):

No.

 

[RaikuFA]

Will this one explain why people are so upset about that ending that was considered the worst thing in existance?

 

[Andy Chalk]

You could say the same for any (side) mission in the game. I fail to see how that's a point against this DLC.

When you play side missions in the game, you don't know how it's going to end.

This, it almost seems like he's trying to both play to the bioware fans by announcing this and the new bioware attackers by being skeptical.

Or perhaps I'm not "playing" to anyone, but just expressing a very reasonable, and hardly unusual opinion. There's no right or wrong here, and if you like the idea and want to play it, knock yourself out. But there's no question that for a lot of people, knowing the outcome and having experienced the emotional impact of the conclusion has a big impact on the desirability of single-player expansions.

 

[Goofguy]

It sounds pretty cool, but is it actually interesting enough to bother with? We all know how the Mass Effect story ends, after all, so no matter what you do or what happens in Leviathan, the outcome will be the same.

You could say the same for any (side) mission in the game. I fail to see how that's a point against this DLC.

Knowing how something ends doesn't need to detract from its entertainment value. Have you never read a book twice?

Would you read a newly added chapter in a previously read book that had a crappy ending? If I wasn't impressed with it the first time around, why should I bother paying to read some chapter slapped in the middle of it?

 

[Rainboq]

If there isn't Elcor in combat, I will be disappointed. Seriously, that mission was SUCH a tease.

 

[tmande2nd]

Can I just say I am literally GIDDY about seeing this thing fail and to hear when Bioware pulls the plug on its DLC plans.

Literally...I know one person out of about 20 people who are going to get it.
It was THE OTHER way around for ME2.

Granted that is a small sample size but its kind of telling.

I mean I uninstalled my ME3 and Origin a week or so ago.
My security question? toodle-oo AHAHAHA!

 

[-Dragmire-]

For me at least, this just seems extra irrelevant since the most it will add is a few extra points for the Readiness meter.

Besides that, I'm not especially interested in learning more about the Reapers since it turned out their leader/hivemind/whatever, the Catalyst, is a complete moron.

You have to admit though, that that's a very good reason for one to go rogue.

 

[DugMachine]

Thought I read something about this being a rogue reaper? Dammit, and I was hoping for a space whale too.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Individual quality might be found in that DLC, but it wouldn't be enough to forgive the taint of hack writing terrible conclusion to the series.

Would you read a newly added chapter in a previously read book that had a crappy ending? If I wasn't impressed with it the first time around, why should I bother paying to read some chapter slapped in the middle of it?

If I didn't ostensibly refuse to purchase any EA published product, that's what I would be thinking here.

One can pretend to ignore the elephant in the room, but personally, knowing that nothing I do in the DLC (or ANYWHERE) has any real meaning or impact (the original premise of Mass Effect, and how it was pitched) basically eliminates any incentive I would have to play said DLC.

To continue the analogy: A book that provides poor closure provides little incentive for me to read anything related to it.

 

[Undeadpool]

Huh. Bioware is dating Mass Effect 3: Leviathan. I wonder if they're seeing a film at the cinema or going out clubbing together? In any case, I hope it's the beginning of a beautiful relationsh- Oh, that's not what you meant...

OT: August 26th? Eleven days away? Awesome. I'll probably have finished Dark Souls by then, just in time to boot up ME3 for this before diving into Darksiders 2.
And I'm seriously looking forward to meeting Leviathan. I may even buy it dinner... (What food do Reapers eat?)

I really love their "within 2 weeks" DLC plan so far. Seriously, that's not sarcasm, it's a great system.

 

[Saviordd1]

You could say the same for any (side) mission in the game. I fail to see how that's a point against this DLC.

When you play side missions in the game, you don't know how it's going to end.

This, it almost seems like he's trying to both play to the bioware fans by announcing this and the new bioware attackers by being skeptical.

Or perhaps I'm not "playing" to anyone, but just expressing a very reasonable, and hardly unusual opinion. There's no right or wrong here, and if you like the idea and want to play it, knock yourself out. But there's no question that for a lot of people, knowing the outcome and having experienced the emotional impact of the conclusion has a big impact on the desirability of single-player expansions.

Yet no one calls the same foul when Dawnguard came out, or when ME2 overlord came out years ago, or when knights of the nine came out for Oblivion...the list goes on; DLC or even expansions tied into the original game aren't unusual and normally don't get the same amount of skepticism.

 

[weirdee]

You could say the same for any (side) mission in the game. I fail to see how that's a point against this DLC.

When you play side missions in the game, you don't know how it's going to end.

This, it almost seems like he's trying to both play to the bioware fans by announcing this and the new bioware attackers by being skeptical.

Or perhaps I'm not "playing" to anyone, but just expressing a very reasonable, and hardly unusual opinion. There's no right or wrong here, and if you like the idea and want to play it, knock yourself out. But there's no question that for a lot of people, knowing the outcome and having experienced the emotional impact of the conclusion has a big impact on the desirability of single-player expansions.

Yet no one calls the same foul when Dawnguard came out, or when ME2 overlord came out years ago, or when knights of the nine came out for Oblivion...the list goes on; DLC or even expansions tied into the original game aren't unusual and normally don't get the same amount of skepticism.

But...those elder scroll expansions are all side adventures that aren't affected by the main quest's end. They even put in dialogue referring to whether or not you already finished those story lines, including some witty remarks about doing Sheogorath's quests after you've become Sheogorath.

 

[SciMal]

I'll do what I always do with midquel DLC - wait until someone else has played it then get opinions.

If it gets rave reviews (like LotSB), then I might buy it and play it through. Or maybe I'll just watch all the juicy plot bits on YouTube like I did with the on-disc DLC (fuck you EA) to satiate my desire for knowledge of the Mass Effect world and skip the whole hour or so of playing through the mission so I can talk to Startwit again.

 

[Andy Chalk]

Yet no one calls the same foul when Dawnguard came out, or when ME2 overlord came out years ago, or when knights of the nine came out for Oblivion...the list goes on; DLC or even expansions tied into the original game aren't unusual and normally don't get the same amount of skepticism.

But in all of those cases, the fiction in which the DLC was set was ongoing. They could very easily have taken place after the main storyline had been completed. Not so with Leviathan. Mass Effect 3 ended Mass Effect. How do you compellingly follow up on that?

 

[monkeymo4d]

Am I the only one who finds it a bit weird that we now have to actually buy an expansion explaining the origins of the REAPERS ? I mean shouldn't this already be in the game as perhaps an integral part of the "story" that is mass effect 3 ?No..... Noone....just me....*sigh*

 

[Erttheking]

Frankly I stopped caring a long time ago.

 

[Terminate421]

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I think the main problem some will have is that we already know the ending and while getting this DLC will effect it, the way they handled the ending kinda feels like it killed most replay value for the game.

Dawnguard exists because it's more to explore to a game like Skyrim, a game about Exploration and your influence on people and locations. This can be done at any point in the game and has no effect on the overall story.

Mass Effect is about picking choices and they affect later choices down the line, for instance, if I said that this DLC influenced the ending to where it just says the leviathan exists or is in a scene at the end of the game, I'd be disapointed as hell. If the DLC could do more damage to the ending, as in, making the fight completely different, that would totally be worth the money in my opinion.

Either way, I'm not really on anyone's side in this debate. If you want to learn more about the reapers, fine, go for it. More power to you. I just don't really have the will after I beat the Mass Effect 3 campaign.

 

[TsunamiWombat]

Yet no one calls the same foul when Dawnguard came out, or when ME2 overlord came out years ago, or when knights of the nine came out for Oblivion...the list goes on; DLC or even expansions tied into the original game aren't unusual and normally don't get the same amount of skepticism.

But in all of those cases, the fiction in which the DLC was set was ongoing. They could very easily have taken place after the main storyline had been completed. Not so with Leviathan. Mass Effect 3 ended Mass Effect. How do you compellingly follow up on that?

Considering the ending of Mass Effect 3 itself wasn't very compelling itself, this would probably be extremely difficult to do yes.

Right, i'm still butthurt about the ending. Sorry world. Not interested. My give-a-damn is broken. I used to be a Biodrone, now i'm out. DA3 is gonna be a hard sell for me, and i'm one of 5 people in the world that liked it apparently.

 

[Falsename]

Who'd have thought you could turn a "This is when DLC comes out" article into "Mass effect's Ending; didn't want! Derp derp".

Don't get me wrong, i didn't like the endings either, but it sounds to me like the author doesn't grasp the idea that Mass effect 3 is the final chapter. What more could they add to it really? Post Ending DLC would be.... well.... silly.


You know what I was thinking the other day? What if they gave mass effect a new character. Not in the 3rd game, I mean a pack that stretched from the first game right through to the last. Example; a salarian soldier or something.

You wouldn't sell it too well just in the first game, but if it was a package for all three. You could keep adding to the mass effect games forever if you did that (not saying that that's what should happen of course).

But anyway. Food for thought.

 

[lapan]

Still not gonna buy or play Mass Effect 3