BioWare Defends Mass Effect 3 Launch-Day DLC
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Competently? Or like, at all?Zeel said:
Actually, a thought just occurred to me. Are we all talking about the Bioware script leak from last year? You're not here accidentally from CNN talking about the Wikileaks scandal this entire time in a case of comedically charged mistaken identity, are you?
Cuz that would be... man, that would be so awesome. We could write a play about it, and then act it out with finger puppets.
Ok people first stop quoting zeel hes a troll and not worth the time or effort to try and reason with.
OT: this is like KSM and LotSB dlcs for ME2 neat game changing dlcs but not required to enjoy the game. oh and because no one else has pointed this out the dlc costs $10 the CE costs $20 more so for all you other people bitching that you need to pay $20 extra for the dlc please do your math your actually getting the dlc and the game for about $70. In fact if the CE didnt have other stuff in it id be rather pissed that im getting screwed out of money.
OT: this is like KSM and LotSB dlcs for ME2 neat game changing dlcs but not required to enjoy the game. oh and because no one else has pointed this out the dlc costs $10 the CE costs $20 more so for all you other people bitching that you need to pay $20 extra for the dlc please do your math your actually getting the dlc and the game for about $70. In fact if the CE didnt have other stuff in it id be rather pissed that im getting screwed out of money.
You know what? That's fair. To be entirely honest, this is (in my case, anyway) an excuse for me to be extremely angry for a pretty silly reason. Also, it's a great time to make pony analogies (I've heard the mods just love pony posts). Besides, I already know I'm going to buy this game, collector's edition if possible, so any and all anger I express about the DLC is pretty much a moot point.The Human Torch said:Short answer: I like ponies!INF1NIT3 D00M said:
Long answer: I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY like ponies!
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Okay, more serious now (still loving the horse analogy, even if it's not entirely correct):
I am not saying that EA is not acting like a complete arsehole, they are completely devoid of any moral and consciousness and show next to no respect for their target audience.
However, the whole horse minus the saddle example that you brought up, is not entirely the way it happened with the Mass Effect DLC. See my following points:
1: Someone accidentally put it up on X-Box Live, so if that never happened, no one would have even known.
2: It's "free", with the collector's edition. Like many other CE's, you get a lot of extra content, but that's what you pay extra for. World of Warcraft has pets with every CE, the Prothean is similar to that, in a way that it's 'cosmetical', it has no impact on the story, but just another addition to the team. The game is not incomplete without the Prothean. It's just a very shiny and rare team-member.
If you don't want to shelf out an extra 20 bucks for the collector's edition, but do want the Prothean, EA is giving you the CHOICE of paying 10 bucks for it, on release day. If having a Prothean on your team is a big deal, then this is for you.
Whether or not the Prothean DLC is worth $10 is an individual decision, seeing as how plenty of people bought that horse DLC for Dragon Age, for some a few bucks for something cosmetical is not a big deal.
Again, your game experience is not lessened by the lack of a Prothean, but it can be enhanced if you want. And color me interested.
Normally I wouldn't risk a low content post, but I think in a thread this drenched in gasoline, it would be nice to have at least a couple posts where people explain their points of view rationally (or with pony analogies, as it were), and see things from another person's perspective. You make a good point, and better, you did so without attacking me, belittling my opinion, or calling me a troll (even if I was a bit aggressive with my choice of words).
A tip of my hat to you.
So you trust this Thrikreen is telling the truth when he says he's a developer, but not the PR team.Zeel said:
Now this becomes more convoluted as I need proof that he works for Bioware, since I'm wary of people online saying they are Nigerian royalty or are developers for game companies.
Be right back guys, making some tea.
Anyone else want one while I'm there? Maybe a sandwich?
I could put some popcorn on?
Anyone else want one while I'm there? Maybe a sandwich?
I could put some popcorn on?
To anwser your posted arguments, the DLC news gave a hint, the devs posted it in the forums, on the announcements, and as a anwser to a complaining fan in the ME3 speculation forums. And as I recall you were the one who said all those things (reversed) and YOU were the one who made all the accusations. We already proved at least half those things, and your "proved" list is ridiculous. You didn't prove anything, you didn't say anything besides speculation, insane ramblings and badly written, rage filled OPINIONS, that proved nothing besides your craziness and paranoia. And even if we didn't, each we did, YOU should be the one proving your arguments, since you were the one who posted them, twist them and you are the only one trying to prove anything.Zeel said:
And, Caps Lock? So 2008. Don't you know? There is a shift key, that prevents accidents like those. We all struggled with the Caps Lock key, and I know it must be hard, but give it a try, okay? Not for us. For you.
I'm sorry, my only options at this point are to break down in shameful tears at how vehemently disgusting the Bioware hate has become lately, or to use my complete lack of humor as a weapon and try to get everyone to calm the beep down.Zeel said:
If you check, I've been doing this charade for far far longer than just today. It's been at least a year...ever since I read the Mass Effect Wikileaks and was scarred for life.
But I digress! I already answered the question 5460 posts ago. You never answered it. Should I repost?
If you look at Thrikeen's input into this thread, which can be seen through his profile. Look at the context of the conversations he had with Zeel, he discredits him almost 90% of the time. Mostly unsure about these theories he came up with, the only one occasion he agreed was with a topic we all agreed on there's hints that this NPC conveys information about Sheperds mission and this anti Repear weapon their building. As well as the DLC allows him to be a Squad member.Radoh said:
I'll take some chips if you have them.Daystar Clarion said:
Although I do have a sinking feeling that this thread is slowly winding down.
I do find it odd no one in Bioware has claimed that yet. And I would simply love that. I'm sure just releasing characters already in the game but, who don't join up with your squad as DLC squad mates would make a killing. I know I'd pay money to get some of my favorite classic squad mates back on my team.animehermit said:
Okay, believe it or not, I do know how this all works. I know there's been a lot of arguing in this thread, but a little less condescension would be nice on all parties part. Also, I'm on your side here. I'm inclined to believe that much of this day-one DLC was made after production on the main game had gone into post-production/testing.animehermit said:
That said, the release schedule involved here shows us one of two things. Either Bioware was too stupid to realize the shit-storm they'd face releasing it day-one, or they're not being entirely truthful with the production cycle of the DLC.
Even assuming the DLC was completed that quickly, they could have easily delayed it a week or two to avoid this whole mess. Either way, EA/Bioware should have known the controversy this would cause, if history were any clue.
Also, doesn't it seem a tad odd that they'd be mum about the DLC until it was accidentally revealed to the public, and are now in a rush to 'clean things up' with PR spin until the games release? After all, EA is notorious for this sort of thing. (anyone recall the Dead Space 2 fiasco?)
I'm just saying, I'd like to think Bioware isn't bullshitting it's fans, but the more that comes to light on all of this, the less I'm inclined to think that. But, again, it's up to the fans to determine the value of the DLC. So we shall see.
Does it matter if hes only in the DLC or not?
Its been established many times, that all he info he gives is unimportant.
Its been established many times, that all he info he gives is unimportant.