BioWare Defends Mass Effect 3 Launch-Day DLC

[SajuukKhar]

-instead of making half assed dlc during the games development, why not use all resources toward fixing glitches to ensure that the game isnt a bug riddled mess

-who decides what is core time vs what is dlc time?

-Integral or not, resources were taken away from bugfix duty; get ready for bugs!

-But its not really optional for people who want the whole story, which seems to be every current mass effect fan. The fans of the original have largely had to jump ship

-Open your eyes, this game is just Mass Effect 2.2, with extra microtransaction opportunities and kinect

You are aware that bug fixing teams wouldn't be affected?

 

[Tony2077]

there either asleep or at home because its a weekend

 

[Tony2077]

Lets return to the original topic. You've guys have turned my Joke into a serious discussion. Yes, the Kaidan-mancer was a joke. I thought that was obvious
The talimancer thing isn't a joke, but lets not touch that.

it is a joke and a bad one

 

[Idocreating]

I understand them wanting to give the Collector's Edition a bit more value but this isn't the way you do it. This content should've gone free to everyone who buys the game within the first week or two.

Publishers need to reward customers for actually forking out the RRP for a new release. Ironically EA got it right before with Battlefield 3 giving the Back to Karkand Expansion free to everyone who bought the game at release (Could've been the limited edition version, but it was only £3 more).

CAPTCHA: scene Monergy. Money Energy? EA's scene does indeed live off the power of cold, hard cash.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

I'm absolutely flabbergasted that Zeel hasn't been banned yet.

He's calling people morons, for fuck's sake, if anyone else posted the way he did, they'd have been forgotten by now.

I told him TWO TIMES already that it wasn't my argument and he kept insisting it was.

That makes him a moron or atleast incompetent.

Just because you say that it wasn't your argument, doesn't mean it's not an issue.

It's not an argument you moron. The argument was at the end of the pos-Oh shit you're a TALIMANCER?
Dude, you are just wasting my time. Talimancers are batshit insane. Everyone knows this.

Oh Sarah you're so god damn adorable!!!
What are you? a kaidan romancer? am I right? Kaidan romancers only exist for Bioware. You display all there typical traits.

You're incinuating that their opinions are lessened by love interests in a fucking game.

You can't be real, this has to be a persona, because nobody is this seething with unadulterated hatred for a game, it's not possible, nobody has that much free time on their hands.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Umm no, it doesn't money was not removed from the budget try again.

Also I "disappear" because I have a life and play games, and talk to REAL PEOPLE. I don't just camp out here nearly 24/7 like SOME people *cough*you*cough*

 

[Tony2077]

-instead of making half assed dlc during the games development, why not use all resources toward fixing glitches to ensure that the game isnt a bug riddled mess

-who decides what is core time vs what is dlc time?

-Integral or not, resources were taken away from bugfix duty; get ready for bugs!

-But its not really optional for people who want the whole story, which seems to be every current mass effect fan. The fans of the original have largely had to jump ship

-Open your eyes, this game is just Mass Effect 2.2, with extra microtransaction opportunities and kinect

You are aware that bug fixing teams wouldn't be affected?

Money was still removed from the budget. If you expect me to believe this After janurary thing, then they had to hire a voice actor. = money. They don't get to charge me extra because they want to develop the DLC with the original budget.

i don't think you understand how the voice acting industry works they get hired for a project
so if there is stuff done after its released or finished they still do voice for it since it part of the contract they signed. which is why some games or animated shows have different voice actors since sometimes the contract doesn't involve follow games or shows

 

[Daftmau5]

I'm absolutely flabbergasted that Zeel hasn't been banned yet.

He's calling people morons, for fuck's sake, if anyone else posted the way he did, they'd have been forgotten by now.

His entertainment value acts as an anti-ban shield that keeps him unbanned, perhaps?

You can't be real, this has to be a persona, because nobody is this seething with unadulterated hatred for a game, it's not possible, nobody has that much free time on their hands.

Yup, going with the "entertainment-value-shield" thing.

 

[Tony2077]

-instead of making half assed dlc during the games development, why not use all resources toward fixing glitches to ensure that the game isnt a bug riddled mess

-who decides what is core time vs what is dlc time?

-Integral or not, resources were taken away from bugfix duty; get ready for bugs!

-But its not really optional for people who want the whole story, which seems to be every current mass effect fan. The fans of the original have largely had to jump ship

-Open your eyes, this game is just Mass Effect 2.2, with extra microtransaction opportunities and kinect

You are aware that bug fixing teams wouldn't be affected?

Money was still removed from the budget. If you expect me to believe this After janurary thing, then they had to hire a voice actor. = money. They don't get to charge me extra because they want to develop the DLC with the original budget.

i don't think you understand how the voice acting industry works they get hired for a project
so if there is stuff done after its released or finished they still do voice for it since it part of the contract they signed.

......
What? Did it cost them money or not?

most times they make money on how well the game or show does and some times its a flat rate so it depends on there contract. so i can't say since i haven't seen there contract

 

[Daystar Clarion]

I'm absolutely flabbergasted that Zeel hasn't been banned yet.

He's calling people morons, for fuck's sake, if anyone else posted the way he did, they'd have been forgotten by now.

His entertainment value acts as an anti-ban shield that keeps him unbanned, perhaps?

You can't be real, this has to be a persona, because nobody is this seething with unadulterated hatred for a game, it's not possible, nobody has that much free time on their hands.

Yup, going with the "entertainment-value-shield" thing.

Fuck man, that's some shield.

Think of all the things a shield like that could power. Zeel might be a perpetual energy machine.

We've never powered anything with hatred before, perhaps that's the solution to the fuel crisis?

 

[SajuukKhar]

Zeel here's how the budget is

Main games budget - used during the base games production

Last 2-3 months before game is relased

SEPARATE BUDGET IS APPROVED by EA to make DLC.

No money was taken from the original games budget, NONE.

 

[Tony2077]

Umm no, it doesn't money was not removed from the budget try again.

Also I "disappear" because I have a life and play games, and talk to REAL PEOPLE. I don't just camp out here nearly 24/7 like SOME people *cough*you*cough*

How do you know money wasn't removed from the budget? if they are working on the DLC before March 6th. Then there salaries were paid with the budget. So yes, money from the budget was used to fund their little DLC excursion.


Oh yeah, you "manage" to disappear everytime I debunk one of your silly points. Imagine that?

some have what ever the team needs since they have money from there past games. indie games have smaller budgets since they have to use the amount the publisher is willing to give them

 

[Tony2077]

Zeel here's how the budget is

Main games budget - to be used during the bnase games production

Last 2-3 months of production

SEPARATE BUDGET IS APPROVED by EA to make DLC.

Too bad they were planning the "DLC" from november. That shoots that silly theory, doesn't it?

are you sure the dlc was in November not just the character himself that was in the game don't just toss this away since we don't really have all the facts

 

[Daftmau5]

Fuck man, that's some shield.

Think of all the things a shield like that could power. Zeel might be a perpetual energy machine.

We've never powered anything with hatred before, perhaps that's the solution to the fuel crisis?

Disregard fossil fuels, acquire hate.

Suck on that, Global Warming.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Zeel here's how the budget is

Main games budget - to be used during the bnase games production

Last 2-3 months of production

SEPARATE BUDGET IS APPROVED by EA to make DLC.

Too bad they were planning the "DLC" from november. That shoots that silly theory, doesn't it?

Planning =/= Making


I'm planning to have breakfast tommorow morning, does that mean I'll be eating breakfast throughout the night?

 

[Shoggoth2588]

Sounds like a Dick Move to me but there have been bigger. This isn't on the same level of dickishness as the Catwoman thing but this does nothing to encourage me to grab ME3, especially since the demo has shown that the gameplay is more-or-less unchanged from 2. Still going to wait for reviews to see if the game has probing, Mako exploration and, paragon/renegade actions; all absent from the demo and the later 2 being activities I enjoyed personally. One way or another, not getting the CE despite loving the first and enjoying the books. Just have to decide on new or used.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Zeel here's how the budget is

Main games budget - to be used during the bnase games production

Last 2-3 months of production

SEPARATE BUDGET IS APPROVED by EA to make DLC.

Too bad they were planning the "DLC" from november. That shoots that silly theory, doesn't it?

Planning =/= Making


I'm planning to have breakfast tommorow morning, does that mean I'll be eating breakfast throughout the night?

Planning is apart of the development process though.

Or it could just mean

'Hey, I've got some ideas for possible DLC in the future. We'll look into that after the main project is done.'

Unless you've got evidence to back up your accusation, and I mean cold, hard, fucking not-made-up-bullshit facts, then just stop.

If I don't get some sort of link in your reply, I'll consider your argument debunked.

Two can play at this game.

 

[Tony2077]

-instead of making half assed dlc during the games development, why not use all resources toward fixing glitches to ensure that the game isnt a bug riddled mess

-who decides what is core time vs what is dlc time?

-Integral or not, resources were taken away from bugfix duty; get ready for bugs!

-But its not really optional for people who want the whole story, which seems to be every current mass effect fan. The fans of the original have largely had to jump ship

-Open your eyes, this game is just Mass Effect 2.2, with extra microtransaction opportunities and kinect

You are aware that bug fixing teams wouldn't be affected?

Money was still removed from the budget. If you expect me to believe this After janurary thing, then they had to hire a voice actor. = money. They don't get to charge me extra because they want to develop the DLC with the original budget.

i don't think you understand how the voice acting industry works they get hired for a project
so if there is stuff done after its released or finished they still do voice for it since it part of the contract they signed.

......
What? Did it cost them money or not?

most times they make money on how well the game or show does and some times its a flat rate so it depends on there contract

Who is telling you this mate? Voice actors get paid by the hour, regardless of how well the game does.

i can't say since i don't work in the industry but they do have a contract

 

[SajuukKhar]

You are aware them saying to themselves "hey after the base game is done lets add this character in the game and drawing up a VERY rough draft of what MIGHT happen literally costs 0 dollars to do?

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Zeel here's how the budget is

Main games budget - to be used during the bnase games production

Last 2-3 months of production

SEPARATE BUDGET IS APPROVED by EA to make DLC.

Too bad they were planning the "DLC" from november. That shoots that silly theory, doesn't it?

Planning =/= Making


I'm planning to have breakfast tommorow morning, does that mean I'll be eating breakfast throughout the night?

Planning is apart of the development process though.

Or it could just mean

'Hey, I've got some ideas for possible DLC in the future. We'll look into that after the main project is done.'

Unless you've got evidence to back up your accusation, and I mean cold, hard, fucking not-made-up-bullshit facts, then just stop.

If I don't get some sort of link in your reply, I'll consider your argument debunked.

Two can play at this game.

Do you want the leaks or something? because it isn't just a sidenote mention of the Prothean. The Prothean is involved in a lot of plot related elements.

"accusation" Don't be so god damn melodramatic.

'sidenote' not proof.

Leak has already been debunked.

Argument has been debunked. Next issue.