BioWare Wants Fan Input on Sexy Anime-Style Mass Effect Statue

The Great JT

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Eh...no. I personally think it looks a little too sexualized, something that is definately not reflected in Liara's personality (as far as I could see), and the face looks kind of off.
 

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sir.rutthed said:
scotth266 said:
Bioware commissioned a goofy bishoujo style statue and got exactly what they wanted. Sure, it doesn't look like "our" Liara, but it wasn't really supposed to in the first place. The whole point was to see what other artists would do with the concept.

Have people seen half the drawings that Penny Arcade puts out as promotional art? Heck, in the latest one (for Uncharted) the main character looks like he's been taking bodybuilding lessons from Marcus Fenix, and yet I fail to see complaints materializing. I have the sinking feeling that most of the outrage against the Liara statue is just typical anti-Japanese outrage (how dare you get WEABOO all over my favorite franchise Bioware!?!?!?).
Your Penny Arcade comparison is completely off base. PA is comedy, and supposed to be stupid.
Depends on what they're doing. Penny Arcade has been commissioned to do serious work before, and they run serious strips now and again (the whole robot series in particular).

And as far as the Uncharted 3 drawing goes, Gabe himself said: "I?d like to thank Naughty Dog for giving me the opportunity to put my spin on their characters." So it is the exact same thing going on here.

Bioware is supposed to understand that their characters have such strong appeal because they're not just about sex. When they put out something like this statue, it undermines their artistic credibility by emphasizing sex in a previously non sexualized character whose primary appeal had been personality and intellect.
I think people are having trouble understanding the point. Bioware didn't design the damn statue, so how exactly does it undermine their artistic credibility? If allowing sexualized versions of their characters to exist means that Bioware has no artistic credibility, then there's a lot of porn on Deviantart that says they lost their credibility the second they released the first game. Mountains and molehills, people.

There have also been plenty of big-breasted anime characters that have serious brains to boot, which begs the question: why are people so determined to associate the statue's version of Liara with her being depicted as a brainless whore? Stereotypes much?
 

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Sure, the style looks nice and i cant say much about the face yet, cant get a good view of it, but this isn't a pose Liara would make. I cannot ever picture someone with her personality looking like this ever.
This is more suited to Miranda, maybe Kasumi. Okay, Morinth too I guess but who actually kept her around?
they should go make a moe statue of Tali. They wont have to work with a face.
 

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scotth266 said:
sir.rutthed said:
scotth266 said:
Bioware commissioned a goofy bishoujo style statue and got exactly what they wanted. Sure, it doesn't look like "our" Liara, but it wasn't really supposed to in the first place. The whole point was to see what other artists would do with the concept.

Have people seen half the drawings that Penny Arcade puts out as promotional art? Heck, in the latest one (for Uncharted) the main character looks like he's been taking bodybuilding lessons from Marcus Fenix, and yet I fail to see complaints materializing. I have the sinking feeling that most of the outrage against the Liara statue is just typical anti-Japanese outrage (how dare you get WEABOO all over my favorite franchise Bioware!?!?!?).
Your Penny Arcade comparison is completely off base. PA is comedy, and supposed to be stupid.
Depends on what they're doing. Penny Arcade has been commissioned to do serious work before, and they run serious strips now and again (the whole robot series in particular).

And as far as the Uncharted 3 drawing goes, Gabe himself said: "I?d like to thank Naughty Dog for giving me the opportunity to put my spin on their characters." So it is the exact same thing going on here.

Bioware is supposed to understand that their characters have such strong appeal because they're not just about sex. When they put out something like this statue, it undermines their artistic credibility by emphasizing sex in a previously non sexualized character whose primary appeal had been personality and intellect.
I think people are having trouble understanding the point. Bioware didn't design the damn statue, so how exactly does it undermine their artistic credibility? If allowing sexualized versions of their characters to exist means that Bioware has no artistic credibility, then there's a lot of porn on Deviantart that says they lost their credibility the second they released the first game. Mountains and molehills, people.

There have also been plenty of big-breasted anime characters that have serious brains to boot, which begs the question: why are people so determined to associate the statue's version of Liara with her being depicted as a brainless whore? Stereotypes much?
They didn't design it, but they did commission it and specifically ask for this art style. That's as good as making it in this case. True they can't control how their fans view their art, but they can control how they treat it. Just the fact that they paid for the statue to be made is really disappointing because it's so not Liara. There are art styles and even anime styles they could have used to do Liara right, but instead they went for the "sexy 12 year old" look.
 

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When did Liara get over the Shadow Broker? Seriously, this doesn't capture her personality at all.
 

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Not gonna lie.

First reaction was: Oh, GOD, that's frigging awkward. You can keep that.

It doesn't feel like Liara. It looks...I dunno, like they tried to take her character back to the innocent scientist stage even though she's way past that. I feel like it's reducing her to one of those hentai porn chicks you see on pillows.

Yeah, the mental images on that one are not pretty.

And her boobs! I already know I'm not the target audience...but jeezus, you couldn't make it anymore obvious huh?
 

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I don't see how this is 'sexier' it just seems more cartoonish. I think she was much more attractive normally.
 

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sir.rutthed said:
They didn't design it, but they did commission it and specifically ask for this art style. That's as good as making it in this case. True they can't control how their fans view their art, but they can control how they treat it. Just the fact that they paid for the statue to be made is really disappointing because it's so not Liara. There are art styles and even anime styles they could have used to do Liara right, but instead they went for the "sexy 12 year old" look.
And Naughty Dog commissioned the Uncharted drawings from Penny Arcade. Neither piece looks like the original.

Fans here are pitching a fit because the style doesn't gel with them, just like when Halo fans got mad about the animated Halo collection. That's fine (they're entitled to their opinions), but claiming Bioware has no artistic integrity because of it is just stupid.

EDIT: Actually, the more I think about it, the more the bishojou style "fits" Liara (as far as anime styles go) because she's supposed to be the youthful, sort of smart-but-naive/awkward member of the team in ME1. She hardens up a ton for ME2, but as far as ME1 goes, it's accurate.
 

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y'know? i was never a fan of liara. and yet i am fond of this for some reason. i hardly understand why.
 

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it looks like an evil clone baby. Do Not Want.

Come on BioWare, you're making this harder than it needs to be. You want a statue of a specific character from your series, then send somebody the 3-D renderings of that character. See? Easy.
 

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I was going to say something but honestly, the guy who wrote the article pretty much said anything there was needed to be said.

I don't mind the design itself, but it doesn't really have a semblance to Liara through anything other than the costume. Also, her breasts are ridiculous even by Japanese standards. They don't even look like they're affected by gravity.

It's a shame Kotobukiya would let something like this slide, because they're genuinely talented and can make some incredibly detailed and beautiful figurines.
 

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YOWZA, HOT DAMN!!!

I dont know what all the hates for, its the companies style, maybe Bioware should have went to a different designer but this is still a really nice model. Its fine if you dont really conciderate it a spot on rendition of Liara but given the company hired to do it I doubt it was ever meant to be.

For the record, I would LOVE to see this companys version of Garrus, Arch Angel now 20% more daaaaarrrrwwww.

Variety is healthy peeps, take a spoonful of sweet Liara, as im sure we'll be getting a heaping helping of badass Liara when ME3 comes out.
 

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Wow, those are some mighty chest-hams... But seriously, if you don't like the model, don't buy it. Let the nerds of the world have their fantasies.
 

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How uh, well, typical I suppose. Like others have said, doesn't feel at all like the shy reclusive scientist Liara is supposed to be. I mean the stance with the arms pressed together, jutting out her breasts? I don't meant to be judgemental but I see anyone who would buy this as being, well, kind of sad.
 

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I'm not overly worried by the 'enhanced' arse, tits and legs. Giving Liara bigger breasts would almost rank up there with giving Ashley bigger breasts *sigh* Oh Ashe... I'll stop that right now.

But aside from the face being wrong, the expression and pose seem... just wrong. She should be in a combat stance blazing away with a cool, even-handed expression on her face, or using her biotics to turn some poor merc's bones into jelly or something.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Thanks for reminding me that Mass Effect is getting an anime treatment soon. Not that I dislike the art medium, but I don't feel it fits right with the universe at all.
uh.... epic, old school space opera. Yup, anime can't do that all now, can it? I mean theres no Macross, no gundam, no lensman, no legend of galactic heroes, no Heroic age, no space cruiser yamato, no...
 

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Windknight said:
Soviet Heavy said:
Thanks for reminding me that Mass Effect is getting an anime treatment soon. Not that I dislike the art medium, but I don't feel it fits right with the universe at all.
uh.... epic, old school space opera. Yup, anime can't do that all now, can it? I mean theres no Macross, no gundam, no lensman, no legend of galactic heroes, no Heroic age, no space cruiser yamato, no...
Except those are the Macross, Gundam, Lensman, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Heroic Age, and Space Cruiser Yamato universes. Not the Mass Effect Universe.

You imply that I say Anime cannot do Space Opera. To which I say, Don't fucking put words in my mouth.

I don't feel it can portray the Mass Effect universe. Sorry you're so defensive about stuff, but I guess its to be expected from one who will ignore the fact that I not once in that post said that anime sucks.

Go troll elsewhere, lest I brand you a weeaboo.