Black Ops Swastika Emblems Will Earn Xbox Live Ban

[Wow they sure are generous with the usernames]

I could be wrong, but I'm willing to bet that it's the public (emphasis on "public") display of the swastika that's banned in Germany. And I would assume that its display in an online game doesn't qualify as a public display (unless you're monitoring your game play on a gigantic Jumbotron screen set up outdoors for all to see).

It does ban the public use of it but it also bans the distribution of the symbol, which would put Treyarch in a bit of trouble.

(1) Whoever:
1. domestically distributes or publicly uses, in a meeting or in writings (§ 11 subsection (3)) disseminated by him, symbols of one of the parties or organizations indicated in § 86 subsection (1), nos. 1, 2 and 4; or
2. produces, stocks, imports or exports objects which depict or contain such symbols for distribution or use domestically or abroad, in the manner indicated in number 1,
shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_§_86a

 

[Tim Latshaw]

Can I write FORT GAY on my emblem, Microsoft?

 

[Happy Toki Toki]

Stupid Nazis. Why did you have to ruin the swastika for everyone else?

They didn't. The people that refuse to see it as anything other than a Nazi symbol ruin it for everyone else.

you must be an insensative bastard

 

[AceAngel]

Soooo, it's OK for a whole slew of other symbols (including ones of Phalli) in my face, but something which in terms of military regiment in war was used extensively is not?

Double Standard much? If you're going to ban the Dipped Cross, please clean up the other filth as well.

 

[JDKJ]

And why wouldn't the fact that Genocides A and B killed four times more people than those killed by Genocide C not have a diluting effect on the fact the "x" number of people were killed by Genocide C? I'm no mathematician but, in my book, "x times 4" beats the pants offa "x."

Because that's not how society views the images that are related to Genocides A and B.

But Atmos Duality's argument doesn't in any way implicate a symbol or image of any sort. As I understand the argument being made (i.e., the fact that more people were killed in some genocide other than the Jewish Holocaust has no effect on how the Jewish Holocaust should be viewed) the whole swastika issue -- or any other symbol or image for that matter -- plays no role.

 

[foryth]

Of course Genghis Khan still holds the the record as all time mass murdering fuck.

Although women were completely safe walking around anywhere within Khan's kingdom as if anything were to happen to a woman in a town he would kill the entire town, raze it, and plant grass. Effectively erasing all of it. Neighborhood watch, with an extremely severe consequence.

Swasdickas?

/threadwin

It's kind of sad that there's even the need for MS or Treyarch to have to *do* this, but, like the amusement park example, it makes sense.

 

[Estocavio]

Well, you can always use a Soviet symbol, so people dont remember the genocides, death camps, torture, raids, murder and villainy commited by the Soviet Union during WW2 - Because its all ok when Russians do it.

 

[JDKJ]

I could be wrong, but I'm willing to bet that it's the public (emphasis on "public") display of the swastika that's banned in Germany. And I would assume that its display in an online game doesn't qualify as a public display (unless you're monitoring your game play on a gigantic Jumbotron screen set up outdoors for all to see).

It does ban the public use of it but it also bans the distribution of the symbol, which would put Treyarch in a bit of trouble.

(1) Whoever:
1. domestically distributes or publicly uses, in a meeting or in writings (§ 11 subsection (3)) disseminated by him, symbols of one of the parties or organizations indicated in § 86 subsection (1), nos. 1, 2 and 4; or
2. produces, stocks, imports or exports objects which depict or contain such symbols for distribution or use domestically or abroad, in the manner indicated in number 1,
shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_§_86a

I could be wrong, but I don't think "distribute" as used in the statute has the meaning which you're attempting to impart to it.

 

[Mercsenary]

"It's not political correctness, it's fundamental respect,"

No... I'm pretty sure that's political correctness. Cause the Nazi swatstika is angled but oh no. ANYTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A SWASTIKA IS EVIL

In Christianity, the swastika is used as a hooked version of the Christian Cross, the symbol of Christ's victory over death

DEAR GOD. They're discriminating against Christians( and Hindus, Jainist, Chinese, Japanese, Buddhist)

But hey, because a madman used an altered image of it it should be forever banned.

 

[Wow they sure are generous with the usernames]

Soooo, it's OK for a whole slew of other symbols (including ones of Phalli) in my face, but something which in terms of military regiment in war was used extensively is not?

Double Standard much? If you're going to ban the Dipped Cross, please clean up the other filth as well.

If you see an inappropriate emblem, report it. If enough people report it someone will look at it. If it is in fact inappropriate, the guy will get banned.

 

[Mr. Google]

Mines of a dear ass fucking a bunny with a top hat on and its balls hanging out...do i get a ban or do i just get laughed at for my immense immaturity?

 

[Dogstile]

But there are swastikas IN THE GAME. In the Nazi Zombies game mode. So why can't there be a swastika as your emblem?

Because the swastika isn't itself the issue, it's the use of it as a personal emblem to make a statement about yourself. It's like getting a short quote with your person and writing "KILL ALL JEWS"

Or like writing "I like playing german".

Or "Waffen SS".

See, I can turn around meanings too!

 

[-Samurai-]

Stupid Nazis. Why did you have to ruin the swastika for everyone else?

They didn't. The people that refuse to see it as anything other than a Nazi symbol ruin it for everyone else.

you must be an insensative bastard

I'm insensitive because I don't see the Swastika as a purely Nazi symbol, and instead see it as an ancient symbol with many different meanings and origins?

I guess the citizens of Samara in 4000BC were also insensitive for using it on their pottery?

The countless Asian countries with many varied religions are insensitive for using under their own meanings?

And, as I already pointed out, the Finnish Air Force are insensitive because they still use it on their flag.

Right.

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

Stupid Nazis. Why did you have to ruin the swastika for everyone else?

They didn't. The people that refuse to see it as anything other than a Nazi symbol ruin it for everyone else.

I hope everyone here realizes that the Nazi use a different swastika than the Hindus and Buddhists. The Nazi swastika is tiled at a 45 degree angle and backwards. If you portray a Nazi swastika there can't be any argument that it is the Buddhist symbol for peace...they look and mean completely different things.

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

Am not a big fan of the "Jewish extermination" but the swastika should not be banned, even if drawing attention to the event was precisely the intention of the user. Despite what the MS guy says, it is political correctness.

Even though Microsoft are being massive dickheads here, it's not a surprise that they did this.

The swastika is an image that is banned in certain countries (e.g. Germany). People from Germany play the same online game that everyone else does, so they have to moderate their emblems to exclude banned images.

I could be wrong, but I'm willing to bet that it's the public (emphasis on "public") display of the swastika that's banned in Germany. And I would assume that its display in an online game doesn't qualify as a public display (unless you're monitoring your game play on a gigantic Jumbotron screen set up outdoors for all to see).

The Nazi Party is illegal in Germany. This would be instantly banned in Germany and without argument.

 

[Turtleboy1017]

I have seen so many swastikas, and I don't even play all that often. Given the volume of them, it's clear the majority of people are creating them thinking they're being funny or clever. As such, ban 'em all.

It's clear that your post was written to showcase your superiority and higher intelligence as compared to those creating swastika emblems for a quick laugh, so through a skewed version of your logic, you deserve a nice ban as well.

A swastika should not be offensive. I'm Japanese, and if I get shown a picture of the nuke symbol, I don't demand anyone using it be banned. Sure it's a different issue, but if I were to complain about it my underlying reasoning would essentially be the same.

And also just as a side note, smug, elitist posts like the one quoted really make my blood boil. Another side note, if that's sarcasm, which it probably isn't, please denote that you are indeed saying it in such a tone.

 

[laststandman]

If they are banning things because of atrocities associated with them, then they should ban the plot of that game.