Blizzard: Expect More WoW Expansions, Sooner
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What exactly did you "reveal" about me? That I like WoW and SC2? What an awful person I am.Nazulu said:
If you're not happy with the cash shop in WoW, then don't use it. The cash shop does literally nothing to change the gameplay. Also, WoW is not easier than ever, it just has easier options than ever. The heroic mode raids are still there for people that want to push themselves to the limit. They are damn hard, I'm sorry that you see people enjoying LFR and that grinds your gears. I'll let them play how they want and I'll play how I want, because the options are there.
The subscription isn't a problem to me. It keeps the qualityof the content higher than most other games to have a guaranteed source of income. And I worked out the monthly subscription fee just now to be literally 0.2% of my monthly income and I don't even earn that much. It's literally a drop in the bucket.
Funny thing is, I agree with you entirely on Diablo 3. I avoided it because of the real money AH and always online. I still haven't bought or played it and won't do so until they make it offline for the PC.
Way to "reveal" people like me. How dare we enjoy Blizzard games or have standards lower than yours.
Blizzard has actually alleviated that by offering a one time boost to level 90 for one character on your account when you purchase WoD. So if you've been gone a while or are new to the game and don't want to have to drudge through irrelevant content, that's an option.scotth266 said:
I answered the question truthfully, where is the first sin? I want to know what your exactly talking about.cursedseishi said:
And if you are talking about my last paragraph then you've missed the point entirely. Every time I say something against Blizzard I will have someone do it to me regardless, but this time I'm on the prowl. And since no one cares when they do it to me, I see no reason why I can't do it to them. How else are they gonna learn, eh?
The victim act is tired.Nazulu said:
And my timing was terrible? Even when you're almost admitting that you're wrong, you're being ridiculously arrogant. I love how you're giving orders though. Very intimidating.
How do you feel about the potential stat-squish? As much as I like soloing old content, I'd be willing to deal with more difficulty there if it means we aren't all critting in the millions soon.VanQ said:
You do the dailies to grind the rep to get the gear to do the heroics to get to the raids to wait for the patch to do the new raids and farm the new rep to wait for the patch to do the new raids and farm the new rep...
...and the world keeps turning, and Blizzard promises more expansion packs, and they're gonna come out faster this time! Just like they've said before!
Let me know when they update the combat and break out of that fucking horrible mold of literally grinding dailies non-stop. Then I'll gladly pay the $15 a month.
At least my dwarf who's been in purgatory for the last 4 years will look more like a dwarf and less like Play Dough if he ever sees the light of day again.
...and the world keeps turning, and Blizzard promises more expansion packs, and they're gonna come out faster this time! Just like they've said before!
Let me know when they update the combat and break out of that fucking horrible mold of literally grinding dailies non-stop. Then I'll gladly pay the $15 a month.
At least my dwarf who's been in purgatory for the last 4 years will look more like a dwarf and less like Play Dough if he ever sees the light of day again.
Wow. Did you really think I was talking about who liked what? No. I was talking about flippant posts that are just there to put down others. That's it. These generalisations are what I'm talking about.VanQ said:
I want to know if it's because I took a stab at Blizzard. Is that what fired you up?
Edit: Sorry for screwing that quote up.
I was a Blizzard supporter since Warcraft: Orcs and Humans. I owned every single one of their games, beta tested 3 expansions of WoW. Ever since Activision took them over, the quality of their story telling has declined, the stability of their game has become laughable, and their solution to their problems is to double down. WoW had original story telling until cataclysm, when most of its content was ripped off from other sources, and started doing mary sues with its lore characters. The trend continued in MoP and their much loved CRZ had so many bugs that were reported during their "beta" which was more of a "here's a free preview" because them bugs went live, and their lead developer gave their bug reporters a big F you by telling them that if they dislike CRZ, it's because they just want a single player game and should go play skyrim instead.BQE said:
The decline started in cataclysm, they lost more during MoP in less than 1 year, than it took Cataclysm. And now, they are going for even crappier stories, going pay to win, and ignoring the causes of their games decline by doubling down and continuing down a path that caused the mess to begin with. So in a nutshell, WoW and Blizzard used to be a name brand, now, it deserves to go down into oblivion.
I'm not too worried about the stat squish personally. As far as I've heard, if you can do it now, you can do it after the squish. Blizzard said that they were simply applying a flat % across all content and characters. So oyur numbers won't be as big but you'll be doing an equal % of damage as you were before.Compatriot Block said:
I will miss my 3 million Chaos Bolts though. Ahh well, better take some screenshots now.
Or you know, when you came in here and started blithering about how dare our standards be so low when compared to your mighty standards of goodness? You literally entered this conversation with a blanket statement that anyone that doesn't hold up to your opinion or standards that they are lower than you.Nazulu said:
You came into a topic about WoW and flipped out about how it's so far below you and anyone that happens to like it must have low standards. You appear to be completely ignorant to the fact that the cash shop in WoW changed literally nothing in the actual gameplay model or mechanics of the game.
And I think Blizzard's choice to split the SC2 campaign into three is a logical one from both a business and gameplay perspective. We're getting 2 full length campaigns for the price of an expansion pack and you're complaining?
Apparently though, because of the exponential growth between expansions, a flat percentage cut to us at level 90 is much more significant than it is for level 60 monsters. There have been big write-ups with more math than is reasonable, but I guess the gist of it is that we will lose more stats relative to our current numbers than, say, Molten Core will.VanQ said:
1. Most of the lost subs were lost during Cata or right before MoP was released. In short, Cata was the weight that drove everything down. The sub losses are starting to stabilize and its still larger than any of its competition.Nilanius said:
2. Crappier stories? They've revealed so little about the next expansion, how do you already know the whole plot?
3. Pay to win? I may be mistaken, but I don't believe any part of WoW is pay to win.
4. The causes of their game's decline. Which would be...what exactly? Everyone seems to have an opinion on this yet they are almost never the same (unless they're incredibly vague). Considering that they ask you why you quit when you quit, I'm sure Blizz knows exactly why they've lost the numbers they lost and are taking steps to change. MoP, for instance, was very much a different game (well, as different as you can get realistically) from Cata. Whether it was a right direction or a wrong direction, it was a change and not continuing down the same path. On the whole, MoP has been well received.
So your just hanging off the standards remark? Funny, because it's no more offensive than the generalisations I get all the time. Congratulations, now you know how annoying it is. However, there is a reason I said it other than that.VanQ said:
Yeah, I find these changes to the franchises ridiculous, and that should be understandable since no one asked to separate the campaigns in Starcraft 2, that's just blatant money grabbing. I don't see why they can't build on all 3 campaigns in one game, it's been going on for awhile now and everybody was happy with it.
As for WoW selling mounts at lower levels for cash, that changes a lot. It was a challenge to save, so they just threw it out the window. These are part of the same thing, to just milk off people without thinking of the quality of the experience. It should not be encouraged. I wouldn't mind options where they could of just sold skins for certain characters and mounts.
I don't know where you got that those people must be far below me or whatever, it must be for dramatic effect and so I don't care.
well, since you asked ....BQE said:
cause to many still think the best way to beat WoW is to copy it. Also. I don't like it.
OT: while I'm not playing it, nor am I going to be playing it, 'more expansions sooner' does not sound good ... my own bias against the game aside, how can they maintain the level of quality the people that actually like the game expect if they start kicking them out like it's Madden?
It's based on an increased development team/having a fairly functional release schedule versus disparate patches or having only a vague idea of what they're doing. The whole "content release pipe-line" as an idea is actually pretty recent, so they've had to adjust to players wanting to consume more content rather than being able to go through it multiple times/take a while to go through it. Essentially, the playerbase evolved past the game's capacity in some ways. As a player this actually does not sound that bad, although it coming with a patching system would probably be preferable.Lunar Templar said:well, since you asked ....BQE said:
cause to many still think the best way to beat WoW is to copy it. Also. I don't like it.
OT: while I'm not playing it, nor am I going to be playing it, 'more expansions sooner' does not sound good ... my own bias against the game aside, how can they maintain the level of quality the people that actually like the game expect if they start kicking them out like it's Madden?
In short: The words you're looking for are "assembly line", not necessarily rushed. I don't think there's been that much just straight up filler content for a while, although opinions may vary.
As someone who has been with them since "the beginning", would you accept the argument that it wasn't Activision that killed the lore, but the fact that they were using unimportant lore?Nilanius said:
No one cared about Deathwing. No one. No one cared about the Pandas, until Garrosh got heavily involved and we got to fight him.
But now, going back to actual WoW lore with Thrall and the Orc clans? You can't say that sucks. That is fucking awesome.
Out of topic a little:
I only played the first 3 Warcraft games, the strategy games. Never played WoW.
How much the story of the game changed because of the WoW? I heared some bad things, but never something specific about it.
I only played the first 3 Warcraft games, the strategy games. Never played WoW.
How much the story of the game changed because of the WoW? I heared some bad things, but never something specific about it.