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Daedalus1942

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But, is it really that great? I have the Ps3 version (go on and laugh 360 fanboys, you know you want to) and at first I thought there was no microphone capability. It isn't mentioned anywhere in the game, or in the manual.
I researched several sites looking for any mention of mic use in Borderlands and lo and behold I discovered a world of problems.
I've since read numerous stories on forums about the horrible problems playing online co-operative 4 player in Borderlands and trying to use the mic capability. It's choppy, laggy, cuts out, sometimes doesn't register.... let's face it's just downright fucking awful.

I think I may have devised a quick fix that at least allows us to play though.
So I was playing online last night with my friend Anthony, and I had to be kind of quiet as people were sleeping. I was upstairs in my room, and I found I almost had to yell in order for him to hear me.

Worried I might wake people up, I removed my headpiece and held the microphone receiver directly to my mouth in hopes it might pickup the sound easier.
This seemed to partly fix the problem with the poor sound level sensitivity, as from then on, I would just put my mic back on, and hold it up close to my mouth.
The choppiness was apparently still there, and it was lagging a little, but at least my friend was able to hear me without me being loud enough to wake everyone.

Has anyone else tried this? It seemed to lessen the lag for some reason and the cutouts were less on his end according to him.
It's a pain in the arse to constantly remove your mic and put it back on. As I said it's only a quick fix, but I'd like to hear feedback from anyone who's come to the same conclusion as I, or has experimented with different techniques that might help the online community for Borderlands. It's a shame, the rest of the game is extremely solid.

What say you, Escapists?
-Edit- I've forgotten to mention that this problems appears to be exclusive to the Playstation 3 version. So 360 owners who report having no problem... I know!
 

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Honestly, I think that it's either just you or just the PS3 version because I have the 360 version and I occasionally lag a bit but it normally fixes itself. I also have had absolutely no problem with my mic.
 

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popdafoo said:
Honestly, I think that it's either just you or just the PS3 version because I have the 360 version and I occasionally lag a bit but it normally fixes itself. I also have had absolutely no problem with my mic.
It appears to only be the Ps3 version.
There are numerous sites about the issues for borderlands online.
It isn't just me. My mic works fine on Killzone 2, MGO, Resistance 2 and LBP.
It just doesn't work on Borderlands.
It doesn't matter what microphone (people have tried turtle beach and numerous others and it still happens).
I have a Sony Ps3 Blutooth headset. It doesn't make a difference.
 

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Furburt said:
YES! IT IS A GOOD GAME! NOW WILL EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM STOP GOING ON ABOUT IT!!!

*catches breath*

Daedalus1942 said:
(go on and laugh 360 fanboys, you know you want to)
Thats not very nice.
I didn't go on about it and clearly you didn't read my post -.-
I'm not raving about Borderlands and how good it is.
 

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Daedalus1942 said:
(go on and laugh 360 fanboys, you know you want to)
Lolz!!!!!1!!11!!1! U r cantz talkz 2 ur FrEnDz!!11!1!!1!

Seriously though, that does suck about the mic creating such a problem.

(Not really a fanboy)
 

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Play local or alone?
It's still pure balls to the wall some of the most fun I've had all year. And I've had it for two days.
 

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It looked like it'll be a fun game. I mean if it's FUN like it's a game to be a good time waster then I think it's worth getting. If it seems like it needs to be something new and diffrent, then no avoid it
 

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hazabaza1 said:
Play local or alone?
It's still pure balls to the wall some of the most fun I've had all year. And I've had it for two days.
Alone's pretty cool, but my friend wants to play with someone who won't nnick all the drops (i.e, me).
Also, I think it's the mic in general, regardless or playing local or online.
There's an issue with the sound. It sometimes comes out like it's been fast forwarded. I've also noticed that the host of the online game rarely has issues with his/her mic. Everyone can hear them, we just can't talk back effectively.
 

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Kuchinawa212 said:
It looked like it'll be a fun game. I mean if it's FUN like it's a game to be a good time waster then I think it's worth getting. If it seems like it needs to be something new and diffrent, then no avoid it
It is great so far, for me. Just this small blemish is quite annoying online.
 

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Furburt said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Furburt said:
YES! IT IS A GOOD GAME! NOW WILL EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM STOP GOING ON ABOUT IT!!!

*catches breath*

Daedalus1942 said:
(go on and laugh 360 fanboys, you know you want to)
Thats not very nice.
I didn't go on about it and clearly you didn't read my post -.-
I'm not raving about Borderlands and how good it is.
I did read your post, can't answer it because I don't have the PS3 version. It's just the 12th or so forum about borderlands today and it's driving me fucking mental. Didn't mean to cause offence.
That's why I wrote about something interesting regarding problems with it, rathering than praising it as it was released a few days ago, so I figured this forum would be littered with people who can't shut up about it.
 

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Hmmm, well I have Borderlands for the Xbox 360. It's okay, even if I'm more of an RPG fan than a shooter fan. I however just gave up (for the moment) in relative disgust because while playing through Sledge's Safehouse with a level 13-14 Llith I was going through very slowly and doing okay, until the game started to spawn "Badass" level monsters which have incredible durability. I ran back towards the beginning of the level to get ammo, and monsters respawned including this "Badass Bruiser" that deserves to be in guiness book for durability who had a triple firing shock elemental rocket launcher. It took me like an hour of dying to kill him and the other stuff that spawned with him. Eventually I got him by playing stupid games with corners and headshotting him with a damage 128 Sniper Rifle I was carrying a whole lot of times (this weapon had so far killed anything else level 13-14 with one shot to the head).

I know what the guy had for a weapon because I got it when I finally took him down, and it's not bad, but seems nowhere near as effective in my hands as it was in his.

After that I needed a break, but honestly I can't help but think, "WTF were they thinking" when stuff like that spawns fairly close to the beginning of the game. It's not a boss, it's a bloody trash mob.
 

Daedalus1942

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Furburt said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Furburt said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Furburt said:
YES! IT IS A GOOD GAME! NOW WILL EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM STOP GOING ON ABOUT IT!!!

*catches breath*

Daedalus1942 said:
(go on and laugh 360 fanboys, you know you want to)
Thats not very nice.
I didn't go on about it and clearly you didn't read my post -.-
I'm not raving about Borderlands and how good it is.
I did read your post, can't answer it because I don't have the PS3 version. It's just the 12th or so forum about borderlands today and it's driving me fucking mental. Didn't mean to cause offence.
That's why I wrote about something interesting regarding problems with it, rathering than praising it as it was released a few days ago, so I figured this forum would be littered with people who can't shut up about it.
How ironic.
Yes.... so ironic.
Do me a favour? get out. I didn't create this topic for people like you, I created it to get feedback about problems other people might be having with the game. If it hadn't been for the horrible microphone issues, I wouldn't have posted a topic even remotely related to Borderlands, so go away and spread your arrogant, superiour-complex shit elsewhere.
 

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Therumancer said:
Hmmm, well I have Borderlands for the Xbox 360. It's okay, even if I'm more of an RPG fan than a shooter fan. I however just gave up (for the moment) in relative disgust because while playing through Sledge's Safehouse with a level 13-14 Llith I was going through very slowly and doing okay, until the game started to spawn "Badass" level monsters which have incredible durability. I ran back towards the beginning of the level to get ammo, and monsters respawned including this "Badass Bruiser" that deserves to be in guiness book for durability who had a triple firing shock elemental rocket launcher. It took me like an hour of dying to kill him and the other stuff that spawned with him. Eventually I got him by playing stupid games with corners and headshotting him with a damage 128 Sniper Rifle I was carrying a whole lot of times (this weapon had so far killed anything else level 13-14 with one shot to the head).

I know what the guy had for a weapon because I got it when I finally took him down, and it's not bad, but seems nowhere near as effective in my hands as it was in his.

After that I needed a break, but honestly I can't help but think, "WTF were they thinking" when stuff like that spawns fairly close to the beginning of the game. It's not a boss, it's a bloody trash mob.
Thank you for sharing that lovely anecdote about your current playthrough, but it had absolutely no relevance to why I started this topic.
Did you actually read my post, or just go off the heading "Borderlands is great"?
 

Daedalus1942

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Wow.... surely I can't be the only person who bought Borderlands on the playstation 3.
Where is everyone. Maybe they're avoiding my topic because of how I named it.
 

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I think we may be avoiding your topic because they somehow know your subject (Borderlands sucks ass) is different from your title (Borderlands is great.) Other than that...I got the 360 version so I can't really help, though I really can't see why an online game wouldn't support voice, unless the PS3 does that, in which case that's really, really weird.
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Therumancer said:
Hmmm, well I have Borderlands for the Xbox 360. It's okay, even if I'm more of an RPG fan than a shooter fan. I however just gave up (for the moment) in relative disgust because while playing through Sledge's Safehouse with a level 13-14 Llith I was going through very slowly and doing okay, until the game started to spawn "Badass" level monsters which have incredible durability. I ran back towards the beginning of the level to get ammo, and monsters respawned including this "Badass Bruiser" that deserves to be in guiness book for durability who had a triple firing shock elemental rocket launcher. It took me like an hour of dying to kill him and the other stuff that spawned with him. Eventually I got him by playing stupid games with corners and headshotting him with a damage 128 Sniper Rifle I was carrying a whole lot of times (this weapon had so far killed anything else level 13-14 with one shot to the head).

I know what the guy had for a weapon because I got it when I finally took him down, and it's not bad, but seems nowhere near as effective in my hands as it was in his.

After that I needed a break, but honestly I can't help but think, "WTF were they thinking" when stuff like that spawns fairly close to the beginning of the game. It's not a boss, it's a bloody trash mob.
You should be running into badasses starting at level 10, and a protip here, don't go after a level 21 boss at level 14, do some sidequests first.
 

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Whoops, I meant to hit edit and put the rest of this into my other post, but I guess that isn't gonna happen now...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
 

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If host side doesn't have a problem, then it may have to do with the VOIP going to the host and back.

Essentially there may be a problem with (Sony live? I dunno what the PS3's online thing is..PC FTW :D) service. Also the games are hosted on the persons console and not a dedicated server.


So my guess is just a problem with the packets getting there and back, probably in the "Getting back" part.