Bungie Turns 15,000 Halo: Reach Cheaters Into Noobs
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I was too busy dominating all the MLG-wannabes on Team Arena. New Zealand gaming FTW!
On-topic, 15,000 COD fags have left Halo: Reach and are claiming that Black Ops is going to be better.
Be that as you may, Bungie have your money, have the power to ban cheaters/improvisers/noobs/exploiters/xXproL3gitXx/COD fanboys/Boosters/Bridgers and, They are laughing at you! HAH!
On-topic, 15,000 COD fags have left Halo: Reach and are claiming that Black Ops is going to be better.
Be that as you may, Bungie have your money, have the power to ban cheaters/improvisers/noobs/exploiters/xXproL3gitXx/COD fanboys/Boosters/Bridgers and, They are laughing at you! HAH!
Ooh, ooh! I found another good one:
I like the fact that he tries to defend spending time glitching to unlock cosmetic armour upgrades by saying he 'has a life'.
I'll just leave this here...Master_Spartan117666 said:Dear Bungie:
I LOVE YOU!
People are going to be bitching about this for months to come.
Serves them right though. If you cheat the game, we beat you up.
I didn't know which BanHammer picture to choose, so here's three:
Or Bungie could fix said exploits, but this is Xbox Live where they release incomplete games and with MS's draconian control of XBL that's how those games will stay. We can fix it in patches, yeah good thinking if only you could have more then a few small small updates through free patches.
FYI I dont play console FPS, so dont bother accusing me of being some Halo cheat. Quality Assurance depts across the board fail daily.
FYI I dont play console FPS, so dont bother accusing me of being some Halo cheat. Quality Assurance depts across the board fail daily.
All I can say is : roflcopter
As for the rest of what you said, it sound like you've had a bad expeirence with Micro$oft. I'd never accuse you of being a cheat, but I will point my finger at you for being wrong about the "imcomplete games" thing. Halo:Reach was a great game and doesn't feel incomplete in the least. (If a bug counts as incomplete, then most video games nowadays must bother you.)
Bungie never said they weren't going to fix the problem. As a matter of fact, Bungie is one of those companies that quickly fixed problems in their games once it is brought to their attention. The reason people praise this is because cheaters are being punished. We LOVE it when cheaters get, for lack of better words, "pwned" by developers.tehroc said:
As for the rest of what you said, it sound like you've had a bad expeirence with Micro$oft. I'd never accuse you of being a cheat, but I will point my finger at you for being wrong about the "imcomplete games" thing. Halo:Reach was a great game and doesn't feel incomplete in the least. (If a bug counts as incomplete, then most video games nowadays must bother you.)
Y'know, I think the big thing nobody's realising about this is the players aren't banned. Their main argument is 'why demote me, it's just credits!'. You farm to get credits, to buy armour to show off to your friends, then you get all your credits taken off you....and you say it's an overreaction because they're just credits?
Banning them would be a bit excessive, but as far as I know they just had their rank, credits and armour reset, and a one-day earning ban placed on them. They can still play Reach all they want. Hell, they could go back to credit farming after the ban...though I really can't see that being a good idea.
Banning them would be a bit excessive, but as far as I know they just had their rank, credits and armour reset, and a one-day earning ban placed on them. They can still play Reach all they want. Hell, they could go back to credit farming after the ban...though I really can't see that being a good idea.
Which makes the QQing even better, because it's not harming their ability to play. Get yer popcorn for next week, however, the banhammer's wake will be spectatular.Thyunda said:
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its not even fair.. i have a toddler baby brother and he kept unplugging my ethernet and everytime i went to the bathroom my dog jumped on the couch making the game revert to last save and shoot the mac gun thinger.. this isnt my fault i want to warrant officer grade 1 again
That has to be a troll right? ...right?
its not even fair.. i have a toddler baby brother and he kept unplugging my ethernet and everytime i went to the bathroom my dog jumped on the couch making the game revert to last save and shoot the mac gun thinger.. this isnt my fault i want to warrant officer grade 1 again
That has to be a troll right? ...right?
Well of course Reach got polished, it is MS's flagship product for consoles. Not every game gets the same treatment though, take Alpha Protocol for example. It's got a lot of great ideas but you can tell how Obsidian was rushed (like always) to release an incomplete product that could have used at least a few months of polish (which would have led AP being superior to both Mass Effects, at least imo). This game would require a huge patch to fix which would be unacceptable to MS not to charge for. QA have been laxed ever since they deemed they could patch the game later.VanityGirl said:
As I believe I said before, this is little more than showboating like most similar attempts because in the end it's meaningless and not even going to stop the people involved. At the absolute worst all that can happen in these situations is that a company can force people to buy new copies of the software to continue playing, in this case it's not even going that far.
I mean it's nice that they are making a token effort and talking tough I guess, but until we se a way that such bans can be placed on people as opposed to accounts,and actually enforced, the banhammer will always be a PR gesture, more than any kind of actual in-game policing.
When I think of gaming and where it should go, I tend to think of things like Larry Niven's "Dreampark" books as sort of a goal, albiet brought into the home. Above and beyond not having advanced enough technology, we don't even have the willpower to police games well enough for them to ever get that serious. I say willpower, because honestly I think most people who are involved in online gaming would like to see serious policing, which we could do. The problem is of course people get squeamish when they see a lot of power even over something like a game that has been paid for put into someone else's hands for this. Never mind the logical evolution of making cheating in games, specifically when money is involved, an actual crime. Someone going to prison because they hacked someone else's account and stole their stuff, or cheated in some kind of competitive event makes people wary, unless of course they happen to be on the receiving end of something like that and never receive any kind of adequete satisfaction for their losses.
I mean it's nice that they are making a token effort and talking tough I guess, but until we se a way that such bans can be placed on people as opposed to accounts,and actually enforced, the banhammer will always be a PR gesture, more than any kind of actual in-game policing.
When I think of gaming and where it should go, I tend to think of things like Larry Niven's "Dreampark" books as sort of a goal, albiet brought into the home. Above and beyond not having advanced enough technology, we don't even have the willpower to police games well enough for them to ever get that serious. I say willpower, because honestly I think most people who are involved in online gaming would like to see serious policing, which we could do. The problem is of course people get squeamish when they see a lot of power even over something like a game that has been paid for put into someone else's hands for this. Never mind the logical evolution of making cheating in games, specifically when money is involved, an actual crime. Someone going to prison because they hacked someone else's account and stole their stuff, or cheated in some kind of competitive event makes people wary, unless of course they happen to be on the receiving end of something like that and never receive any kind of adequete satisfaction for their losses.
Not a troll, but someone with a few brains.Numachuka said:
As ridiculous as it might sound, the point here being that there is no way to prove using a cheat or exploit was in any way intentional, it could just be wild coincidence. What's more there is no policy against being a total moron, and morons have rights. How do we know the guy involved intentionally did anything? He could just be really stupid, like a guiless retard, and if that is the case he's actually being victimized for his handicap.
Like it or not such arguements carry an unusual amount of weight in our society, even outside of criminal proceedings. Stuff like this influances policies, and that is what the guy is aiming for. He wants to basically convince Bungie not to go after cheaters because any one of them could in theory be the innocent victim of a misunderstanding. No matter how improbable it seems or how unlikely the events being claimed are, Bungie cannot know for sure that the most insane claims are not indeed true.
I tend to think we should ignore stuff like this, but a lot of people disagree with me. This guy could probably find a ton of liberals to back him up if he really pushed and wanted to pressure Bungie, not because they nessicarly believe him, but because of the point he's making.
Remember that for good or ill, the US is a society where we'd rather see a thousand guilty people go free, than a single innocent person suffer unjustly. That's our principle, and while it's sound on paper, in reality it leads to stuff like this and gets absolutly ridiculous. Largely because everyone is afraid at some point they might be that one innocent person sacrificed to get all the ones who did wrong. Either going to prison in an actual legal proceeding, or losing a ton of gameplay progress in something like this which is a company action without any real legal or societal bearing (but still can be affected by a lot of people acting in concert against the desician).
Left to me though, I actually think we should see people banned entirely from gaming for a lot of this stuff rather than just losing progress, or having to maybe re-buy a game. I even think actual criminal charges and jail time should be involved when money gets involved. Given the investment in time and effort, I tend to think vandalizing something like a WoW account should be treated similarly to robbing or trashing someone's house. The investment of time, not to mention money in many cases, gives virtual property value, especially seeing as nowadays a lot of it can be bought and sold. By cheating in something like Halo it can be arguedh cost other people oppertunities, as well. After all getting invited to tournaments and such with cash prizes is oftentimes based on rankings, and his false ranking would give him undue consideration competitively compared to someone who has been playing for real.
Ah well, enough rambling.
Quite. And Bungie are mostly forgiven for their past sins (ODST). Good on ya Bungie.Warrior Irme said: