Bus driver uppercuts woman

[Astoria]

I shouldn't laugh but ahahahaha nice punch. I hate it when girls think they can get away with abusing guys because they can't hit back. She won't do it again that's for sure.

 

[Kwamouflage]

Although I don't 100% agree with what he says, "Hollywood Kriss" has some very compelling arguments, listen and learn: http://theinsanityreport.com/home/index.php/2012/10/14/podcast/insanity-check/ic-354-dont-start-no-shit-wont-be-no-shit/

Start at 37:37 and the very calm argument ends at 1:25:00.

After listening to that I really had a hard time being pro-don't-hit-her about the situation and somehow I really doubt it'll be different with other listeners as well.

This is why you don't fuck with busdrivers, my friends dad is a busdriver and he's one of the most alpha motherfuckers I know.

On the video, TBH this looks pretty bad for him. While she was screaming at him and whatnot you couldn't really see if she'd hit him or not, the conductor was in the way. He also hit her after she had (possibly) hit him and it didn't look like she was going in for another blow. She (possibly) hit him, stopped, he got up, clearly uninjured and punched her while she was just standing there, then grabbed her and chucked her on the floor. Mind you, she took it pretty well and was in fighting spirit afterwards so it can't have been that hard.

Ironically, according to the show, the police didn't press any charges so he's probably in no trouble at all. The only thing I imagine the driver having a problem with is his employer and depending on the community he could keep his job.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Because he was not at risk from this woman, she was actually backing off and was content to just insult him from a distance. This wasn't self defence, this was just him retaliating.

No

No

NO.

Imma leave this here:[link]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhzCVM2oOs7f35xwUa[/link]


Saying he wasn't at risk because of this women is BS when you look at the 4 minute version of this. She was causing shit while the bus was still moving. Not only is she a danger to him, but to the entire bus of passengers acting that way.


What he did was understandable considering the way that bus drivers tend to get treated. He was probably pissed off to such point as to hit a person due to previous encounters. Who's to say that this is the first person to start a screaming match with him due to not having money for bus fare.

He repeatedly tells her to get behind the yellow line, she threatens to spit on him. Again, while hes driving the bus. He was most likely distressed beyond anything either me or you have ever experienced.

What he did wasn't justifiable or a good thing either, let me make that clear. He did toss her off the bus after slugging her. To be honest, in the mainstream mindset of a lot of people, he still would've been given shit for putting his hands on a woman in general.

This was a situation with no winners. Once she started with the attitude and the physicality there was not much of anything the driver could do without pissing off mainstream media and the people that watch it unfortunately. The U.S.' collective mindset is too PC to allow him any leeway.

 

[crimson sickle2]

Dang, first pagers were right, this did turn into a gender thing. At least most of the arguments are well writ and thought, good going Escapist.

 

[Kwamouflage]

I really hope people clicked and listened to that podcast. It will end all conversation on the topic. Seriously. Just give it a try.

 

[TeletubbiesGolfGun]

I really hope people clicked and listened to that podcast. It will end all conversation on the topic. Seriously. Just give it a try.

what podcast? I didn't read every single comment in the thread but i don't remember seeing a podcast anywhere..

 

[Kwamouflage]

I really hope people clicked and listened to that podcast. It will end all conversation on the topic. Seriously. Just give it a try.

what podcast? I didn't read every single comment in the thread but i don't remember seeing a podcast anywhere..

Insanity Check, sir. Insanity Check.
>>>> http://theinsanityreport.com/home/index.php/2012/10/14/podcast/insanity-check/ic-354-dont-start-no-shit-wont-be-no-shit/

The (ahem) non-rant begins @ 37:37 and ends at 1:25:00 but feel free to listen to the whole thing if desired.

 

[TeletubbiesGolfGun]

I really hope people clicked and listened to that podcast. It will end all conversation on the topic. Seriously. Just give it a try.

what podcast? I didn't read every single comment in the thread but i don't remember seeing a podcast anywhere..

Insanity Check, sir. Insanity Check.
>>>> http://theinsanityreport.com/home/index.php/2012/10/14/podcast/insanity-check/ic-354-dont-start-no-shit-wont-be-no-shit/

The (ahem) non-rant begins @ 37:37 and ends at 1:25:00 but feel free to listen to the whole thing if desired.

ah gotcha, saw the link but didn't see the podcast part in it, but yeah i agree with it, 100%

i would love to see some of these pacifist people put into a real world situation, where a stranger comes up while they are on the job, and have them spit and choke them, and do a damn thing about it.

i call bullshit, you are going to have one flipped out reaction. if you don't, then please link me your address so i know where to go when i am having a bad day and would like to flip out on someone and do an epic uppercut. please.

 

[Okulossos]

Dear god, all that screaming, I could not even watch it all, so I just forwarded to the uppercut. That Women is putting all those lives in danger just to get her point across? I don't know... being upset is one thing, but she is just a hysterical, screaming maniac.
I wonder how it all started, what did he do wrong. Trying to make sens of what is being said is hopeless, I could not understand a word except the "n" word, but that seams to be just filler these days in parts of the USA.
I still don't think that violence is an answer, but I wonder if he really had a choice there.
Did she have it coming? Well... yes and no. She was clearly the one who provoked, and he kept calm for some time, so I am unsure about that. Violence can not be an answer... but:
Did he overreact? Without a doubt, the uppercut was too much, but throwing her off the bus was ok - I just wonder if throwing her off would have worked without the uppercut.

the thing is: this man has a responsibility which he can not fulfill is he is being screamed at like that... what kind of pseudo culture is that anyway, where you think it's ok to loose your mind like that and start being hysterical all over traffic? What that video does is make me want to stay away from cleveland traffic as far as possible...

 

[Darthbawls77]

SHORYUKEN!

I feel kinda bad for this, but it's the firs thing that came to mind.

No real opinion either way on the matter violence is violence :/ she was being a total tool though.

Damnit. I was thinking the same exact thing when I saw the thread title.

I was also thinking the same thing! lol love the sprite and love the toast icon that rips his head open wtf is that from cause its beautiful?

 

[Jkudo]

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But you see how that view in itself is sexist? Saying that women can't handle themselves. It's not a privilege rooted in equality at all.

Considering in the law men and women are equal when it comes to assault we don't have this magic privilege you seem to be so envious of. In fact in my personal experience men are always too keen to beat on women.

Too be fair you do realize that "don't hit women" is sexist towards not just towards women but towards men as well right? It implies it's okay to hit men, that being hit, and having no fucking choice whether you fight in a world war or not is just what men do. If having to stay at home while men had to go fight a war was their oppression, then we have different definitions of oppression.

 

[Uhura]

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Did you even read my post? Your response has nothing to do with what I was saying.

 

[Zeckt]

I will say just one thing : she endagered the lives of every passenger on the bus when she pushed the driver. She not only deserved that punch, she deserved to lose teeth over it. Selfish, stupid whiny people need to taste reality.

Is her petty squabble worth everyone on the bus?

 

[AngloDoom]

Unless someone can point it out to me, I think I missed the bit where the girl actually assaulted the bus driver. From what I could see she was calling him nasty names so he responded with an (admittedly amazing) uppercut.

Even if she did push him, the bus driver was clearly capable of just throwing her off the bus. The punch was amazing understandable but unjustified, in my opinion.

 

[Uhura]

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Did you even read my post? Your response has nothing to do with what I was saying.

The point is, unless he was punching her so hard her face caves in while on the floor, it isn't excessive force.

He let go, with "excessive force" he wouldn't have done that. He would have kept beating her regardless.

That's your own definition of excessive force and it's a pretty silly one at that. You are aware that a single punch can kill a person?

 

[Zeckt]

Just imagine if this went some other way. Like Woman pushes bus driver causing him to crash, 50+ people dead. Identity of woman found on surviving security camera. Families of the victims crowd outside the woman's house to forever condemn her and her family for her stupidity.

The uppercut was too good for her.

 

[FamoFunk]

I wish I did that to the bus driver I had this morning, he was a jobsworth ****. *Hurry up and fix my car garage people*

From the video, his uppercut seemed really extreme and looked like it bloody well hurt. I don't think there was any need for it, at all, and cannot defend his action regardless of how much of a ***** she was being.

 

[Uhura]

Oh great, the "but-but she could die" excuse. As if she could fall apart at any moment.

She would have had to be hit pretty hard. The force needed would have to be hard enough to be at LEAST as powerful as a professional fighter's punch to even have a chance. A hit that big would need a more buff person than a mere bus driver.

Not only that, but she would had to be hit in the temporal lobes extremely hard. It takes about 50 g's of force, the strength of a professional fighter. Football players deal with 200 g's of force. Race car drivers deal with 80 g's without injury. Even professional fighters need years of fights for brain damage.

The human body isn't made of glass, if we couldn't take punishment natural selection would have killed us off long ago. It just seems you are grasping at straws now.

Unless he is Zangrief, the chance of her dying is minimal.

There is no need to try to complicate the issue with g-forces and all that jazz. The thing is you don't actually have to be a professional fighter to kill someone with a punch. You don't also have to hit that hard to kill someone, since they can sustain the fatal injuries from hitting their head on the ground.

http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/one-punch-can-change-your-life-and-hundreds-of-others/309/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20078523-504083.html
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Parents-anguish-cricket-fan-son-killed-punch-head/story-13721662-detail/story.html

The risk always exists. It's especially dangerous when you hit someone who is not expecting it and the girl clearly didn't think he would punch her. I don't get why you feel the need to argue about this.

 

[FallenMessiah88]

She acted like a stupid **** and she got what she deserved.

You reap what you sow. Gender has nothing to do with it.

 

[kahyonhowanen]

Oh great, the "but-but she could die" excuse. As if she could fall apart at any moment.

She would have had to be hit pretty hard. The force needed would have to be hard enough to be at LEAST as powerful as a professional fighter's punch to even have a chance. A hit that big would need a more buff person than a mere bus driver.

Not only that, but she would had to be hit in the temporal lobes extremely hard. It takes about 50 g's of force, the strength of a professional fighter. Football players deal with 200 g's of force. Race car drivers deal with 80 g's without injury. Even professional fighters need years of fights for brain damage.

The human body isn't made of glass, if we couldn't take punishment natural selection would have killed us off long ago. It just seems you are grasping at straws now.

Unless he is Zangrief, the chance of her dying is minimal.

There is no need to try to complicate the issue with g-forces and all that jazz. The thing is you don't actually have to be a professional fighter to kill someone with a punch. You don't also have to hit that hard to kill someone, since they can sustain the fatal injuries from hitting their head on the ground.

http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/one-punch-can-change-your-life-and-hundreds-of-others/309/
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20078523-504083.html
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Parents-anguish-cricket-fan-son-killed-punch-head/story-13721662-detail/story.html

The risk always exists. It's especially dangerous when you hit someone who is not expecting it and the girl clearly didn't think he would punch her. I don't get why you feel the need to argue about this.

The difference being that in all three of those incidents they died because of the combined force of the punch and slamming their head into the ground, and judging by the way she fell, that doesn't seem like her head could have. Infact, the whole purpose of the uppercut is to incapacitate someone by dealing shock damage, so the chance of being killed by one is minimal.

Hell, if you want to stick to the idiotic "but she could die" argument, she assaulted a bus driver, while he was driving which could have caused him to crash and kill everyone on the bus.