Bus driver uppercuts woman

[Bullfrog1983]

OP is obviously joking, this video looks pretty cut and dry. The woman hit the bus driver WHILE HE WAS DRIVING A BUS which is a dangerous situation if he loses control of the bus and maybe runs down a car or somebody walking down the street, or collides with a transport truck - anything really. The headline here should read: Stupid Woman Hits Bus Driver, not the other way around.

 

[AlphaLackey]

It isnt a question of gender. We have NO evidence this girl was abusing gender privilege to avoid the assault and get away with such inappropriate acts.

Did this female strike the male with the expectation that the male would strike back? No? There's all your evidence right there.

Cmon that guy was huge, and fuck me sideways he KNOWS how to throw an uppercut. That girl was like 80 pounds? A simple slap would probably knock her down. Of course we can say he was full of pent up rage (understandably) but it doesn't excuse such extreme force. There are a LOT of ways someone with that much of a strength advantage could have physically removed or incapacitated her.

Well, okay.. you saying "even though she was striking him, he should not have struck her back" should be included too.

A good reason vigilante justice like this is discouraged is it now leaves us with a difficult question. The girl here has already been punished, pretty damn brutally, with a hefty uppercut to the jaw. Should we punish her AGAIN? Is DOUBLE punishment fair? Has she learnt her lesson?

Do you suspect she will ever strike a man with the expectation that she should be immune from reprisal because of her gender? No? Looks like she learned a lesson, the same lesson I would learn if I struck someone twice my size while suspecting I could behind the equally quaint social expectation that "you don't hit someone with glasses".

The thing is that if we "Praise" and "Encourage" such behavior people will think its more acceptable to lash out for lesser provocations that some psychopathic woman. We cant say that "Hitting someone in blind fury after they provoke is a good and just thing to do, it makes you a hero and you should be rewarded" because to be honest that sends a pretty piss poor lesson for what should be socially acceptable.

I guarantee you, with the genders reversed, that's exactly what people would say. Even if the provocation isn't physical, you can "play for mainstream laughs" a woman lashing out after repeated provocation by a male. You can do it in sitcoms, in commercials, in movies, you name it.

I appreciate the pacifist angle you are trying to take to this discussion. But to try and take the gender out of the equation is inaccurate IMO.

 

[Astoria]

I shouldn't laugh but ahahahaha nice punch. I hate it when girls think they can get away with abusing guys because they can't hit back. She won't do it again that's for sure.

 

[Kwamouflage]

Although I don't 100% agree with what he says, "Hollywood Kriss" has some very compelling arguments, listen and learn: http://theinsanityreport.com/home/index.php/2012/10/14/podcast/insanity-check/ic-354-dont-start-no-shit-wont-be-no-shit/

Start at 37:37 and the very calm argument ends at 1:25:00.

After listening to that I really had a hard time being pro-don't-hit-her about the situation and somehow I really doubt it'll be different with other listeners as well.

This is why you don't fuck with busdrivers, my friends dad is a busdriver and he's one of the most alpha motherfuckers I know.

On the video, TBH this looks pretty bad for him. While she was screaming at him and whatnot you couldn't really see if she'd hit him or not, the conductor was in the way. He also hit her after she had (possibly) hit him and it didn't look like she was going in for another blow. She (possibly) hit him, stopped, he got up, clearly uninjured and punched her while she was just standing there, then grabbed her and chucked her on the floor. Mind you, she took it pretty well and was in fighting spirit afterwards so it can't have been that hard.

Ironically, according to the show, the police didn't press any charges so he's probably in no trouble at all. The only thing I imagine the driver having a problem with is his employer and depending on the community he could keep his job.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Because he was not at risk from this woman, she was actually backing off and was content to just insult him from a distance. This wasn't self defence, this was just him retaliating.

No

No

NO.

Imma leave this here:[link]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhzCVM2oOs7f35xwUa[/link]


Saying he wasn't at risk because of this women is BS when you look at the 4 minute version of this. She was causing shit while the bus was still moving. Not only is she a danger to him, but to the entire bus of passengers acting that way.


What he did was understandable considering the way that bus drivers tend to get treated. He was probably pissed off to such point as to hit a person due to previous encounters. Who's to say that this is the first person to start a screaming match with him due to not having money for bus fare.

He repeatedly tells her to get behind the yellow line, she threatens to spit on him. Again, while hes driving the bus. He was most likely distressed beyond anything either me or you have ever experienced.

What he did wasn't justifiable or a good thing either, let me make that clear. He did toss her off the bus after slugging her. To be honest, in the mainstream mindset of a lot of people, he still would've been given shit for putting his hands on a woman in general.

This was a situation with no winners. Once she started with the attitude and the physicality there was not much of anything the driver could do without pissing off mainstream media and the people that watch it unfortunately. The U.S.' collective mindset is too PC to allow him any leeway.

 

[crimson sickle2]

Dang, first pagers were right, this did turn into a gender thing. At least most of the arguments are well writ and thought, good going Escapist.

 

[Kwamouflage]

I really hope people clicked and listened to that podcast. It will end all conversation on the topic. Seriously. Just give it a try.

 

[TeletubbiesGolfGun]

I really hope people clicked and listened to that podcast. It will end all conversation on the topic. Seriously. Just give it a try.

what podcast? I didn't read every single comment in the thread but i don't remember seeing a podcast anywhere..

 

[Kwamouflage]

I really hope people clicked and listened to that podcast. It will end all conversation on the topic. Seriously. Just give it a try.

what podcast? I didn't read every single comment in the thread but i don't remember seeing a podcast anywhere..

Insanity Check, sir. Insanity Check.
>>>> http://theinsanityreport.com/home/index.php/2012/10/14/podcast/insanity-check/ic-354-dont-start-no-shit-wont-be-no-shit/

The (ahem) non-rant begins @ 37:37 and ends at 1:25:00 but feel free to listen to the whole thing if desired.

 

[TeletubbiesGolfGun]

I really hope people clicked and listened to that podcast. It will end all conversation on the topic. Seriously. Just give it a try.

what podcast? I didn't read every single comment in the thread but i don't remember seeing a podcast anywhere..

Insanity Check, sir. Insanity Check.
>>>> http://theinsanityreport.com/home/index.php/2012/10/14/podcast/insanity-check/ic-354-dont-start-no-shit-wont-be-no-shit/

The (ahem) non-rant begins @ 37:37 and ends at 1:25:00 but feel free to listen to the whole thing if desired.

ah gotcha, saw the link but didn't see the podcast part in it, but yeah i agree with it, 100%

i would love to see some of these pacifist people put into a real world situation, where a stranger comes up while they are on the job, and have them spit and choke them, and do a damn thing about it.

i call bullshit, you are going to have one flipped out reaction. if you don't, then please link me your address so i know where to go when i am having a bad day and would like to flip out on someone and do an epic uppercut. please.

 

[Okulossos]

Dear god, all that screaming, I could not even watch it all, so I just forwarded to the uppercut. That Women is putting all those lives in danger just to get her point across? I don't know... being upset is one thing, but she is just a hysterical, screaming maniac.
I wonder how it all started, what did he do wrong. Trying to make sens of what is being said is hopeless, I could not understand a word except the "n" word, but that seams to be just filler these days in parts of the USA.
I still don't think that violence is an answer, but I wonder if he really had a choice there.
Did she have it coming? Well... yes and no. She was clearly the one who provoked, and he kept calm for some time, so I am unsure about that. Violence can not be an answer... but:
Did he overreact? Without a doubt, the uppercut was too much, but throwing her off the bus was ok - I just wonder if throwing her off would have worked without the uppercut.

the thing is: this man has a responsibility which he can not fulfill is he is being screamed at like that... what kind of pseudo culture is that anyway, where you think it's ok to loose your mind like that and start being hysterical all over traffic? What that video does is make me want to stay away from cleveland traffic as far as possible...

 

[Darthbawls77]

SHORYUKEN!

I feel kinda bad for this, but it's the firs thing that came to mind.

No real opinion either way on the matter violence is violence :/ she was being a total tool though.

Damnit. I was thinking the same exact thing when I saw the thread title.

I was also thinking the same thing! lol love the sprite and love the toast icon that rips his head open wtf is that from cause its beautiful?

 

[Jkudo]

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But you see how that view in itself is sexist? Saying that women can't handle themselves. It's not a privilege rooted in equality at all.

Considering in the law men and women are equal when it comes to assault we don't have this magic privilege you seem to be so envious of. In fact in my personal experience men are always too keen to beat on women.

Too be fair you do realize that "don't hit women" is sexist towards not just towards women but towards men as well right? It implies it's okay to hit men, that being hit, and having no fucking choice whether you fight in a world war or not is just what men do. If having to stay at home while men had to go fight a war was their oppression, then we have different definitions of oppression.

 

[Uhura]

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Did you even read my post? Your response has nothing to do with what I was saying.

 

[Zeckt]

I will say just one thing : she endagered the lives of every passenger on the bus when she pushed the driver. She not only deserved that punch, she deserved to lose teeth over it. Selfish, stupid whiny people need to taste reality.

Is her petty squabble worth everyone on the bus?

 

[AngloDoom]

Unless someone can point it out to me, I think I missed the bit where the girl actually assaulted the bus driver. From what I could see she was calling him nasty names so he responded with an (admittedly amazing) uppercut.

Even if she did push him, the bus driver was clearly capable of just throwing her off the bus. The punch was amazing understandable but unjustified, in my opinion.

 

[Uhura]

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Did you even read my post? Your response has nothing to do with what I was saying.

The point is, unless he was punching her so hard her face caves in while on the floor, it isn't excessive force.

He let go, with "excessive force" he wouldn't have done that. He would have kept beating her regardless.

That's your own definition of excessive force and it's a pretty silly one at that. You are aware that a single punch can kill a person?