Can Americans Make Anime?
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Greentext isn't a sin unlike discussing tastes in anime-related discussion on non anime-related site.animehermit said:
You are not trying hard enough.synobal said:
I have seen 131 different anime series, but I only watched 3 of these.synobal said:
You must be pretty well-informed for someone who doesn't like anime, to be familiar with all of them.
Anyways, my top list:
Suzumiya Haruhi
FLCL
Death Note
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Lovely Complex
Steins;Gate
Baccano
Spice and Wolf
Clannad
Rocket Girls
Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
Nazo no Kanojo X
Azumanga Daioh
Nichijou
Well, it's not a public opinion list, but things that I like. Fuck the public. You might also notice Rocket Girls, and Lovely Complex on the list, that are also not generally recognized classics.Dissentient said:
I don't care about public opinion on tastes, it's just that I can't imagine what was going on inside your head while you were watching it so that it made inside your top list.Alterego-X said:
Surprisingly, almost all of my favorites [http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Dissentient&show=0&order=4] are in top 100.
It has an interesting take on abstinence and teenage relationships that's not all that common in anime, or anywhere else for that matter. Also, nice music.Dissentient said:
have that and its "not every opening" in one of my playlists .. its totaly true! xDGrimh said:
Let me say that you are indeed nitpicking. I was making a very broad statement AND YES, OF COURSE THERE ARE SHOWS THAT ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE. Christ, I knew that as soon as I made my original post, someone would jump on it...there are debates that you don't want to be a part of.Tony2077 said:
I already narrowed my "Topics To Avoid List" to: religion, MLP: Friendship is Magic, pedophilia and rape. I will add 'anime' to that list. In the meantime I will finish watching One Piece.
What are you on about? The shows are bad because it's Americans copying the anime style? No, the shows are bad because they're bad. End of story. Americans can clearly emulate the anime style and create a quality product from it. Will it feel just like anime? Probably not. That has nothing to do with the show being GOOD.Wesley Brannock said:
Also not true. What audience is Futurama geared towards? Or what about the stuff on adult Swim? Or the adult jokes that were everywhere in Animaniacs?NameIsRobertPaulson said:
And "geared to" one demographic doesn't mean enjoyed by an older or younger one, if My Little Pony is any indication.
The writer of this article had the definition right early on. The term "anime" refers only to animation created by a Japanese animation team, produced in Japan, and developed for a Japanese audience. It describes the work's geographic origin. You shouldn't be classifying Korra as part of the anime genre because "anime" itself isn't a genre.
Korra and Avatar aren't anime, because they weren't made by and for Japan. That does not make them bad shows and it doesn't lessen their legitimacy as great works of fiction. The shows certainly take a lot of inspiration from Japanese shows, in particular the Shonen genre in anime. Anime itself is not a genre, so even calling something a "western anime" or an "American anime" doesn't really work. Japanese animation has a wide variety of genres. You have westerns, sci-fi, horror, mystery, action, and even sports. "Anime" is simply a term to use to identify it's country of origin.
The way I see it, a good show or movie is a good show or movie. It doesn't matter what country it came from or what art style it uses. I enjoy shows like Avatar and Korra just as much as I enjoy Full Metal Alchemist, Cowboy Bebop, and FLCL. We don't need to validate shows by saying that they are "Western-anime", and therefore somehow better than other western animation. The shows should be judged by their own merits or lack there of. At least that's my opinion.
Korra and Avatar aren't anime, because they weren't made by and for Japan. That does not make them bad shows and it doesn't lessen their legitimacy as great works of fiction. The shows certainly take a lot of inspiration from Japanese shows, in particular the Shonen genre in anime. Anime itself is not a genre, so even calling something a "western anime" or an "American anime" doesn't really work. Japanese animation has a wide variety of genres. You have westerns, sci-fi, horror, mystery, action, and even sports. "Anime" is simply a term to use to identify it's country of origin.
The way I see it, a good show or movie is a good show or movie. It doesn't matter what country it came from or what art style it uses. I enjoy shows like Avatar and Korra just as much as I enjoy Full Metal Alchemist, Cowboy Bebop, and FLCL. We don't need to validate shows by saying that they are "Western-anime", and therefore somehow better than other western animation. The shows should be judged by their own merits or lack there of. At least that's my opinion.
Cowboy BeBop was actually not that popular in Japan... And besides, adult cartoons exists on BOTH cultures. By and large, cartoons are still made for kids. One Piece, Bleach, Naruto... three biggest anime? All kids cartoons.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Which is amusing, since the most popular cartoons in America are the Simpsons, Family Guy and South Park, neither of which have really been geared at kids in a while (South Park used to be, but not so much now), and yet anime are somehow known as "more mature".
No medium is childish or mature. For every Citizen Kaine there's an Air Bud. For every Pride and Prejudice there's a HI! Fly Guy! It's silly to denounce a whole medium as adult or childish.
Wesley Brannock said:
I'm not posting a list of what I like, these are widely considered some of the most popular animes out there, and some of the best.Dissentient said:
And for whoever said Naruto and Shippuden are the same. I suppose technically they are the same but the writer found it necessary to separate them and so I separated them also.
And for people who say what is on my list isn't good anime. I believe "good" is a matter of opinion, and frankly I don't give a fuck what your opinion is, I stated mine and thats that.
Final Flight of the Osiris and Kid's Story were made by the Wachowski Brothes.Wesley Brannock said:
Both parts of The Second Renaissance were written and directed by Mahiro Maeda, who helped animate Castle In the Sky and Porco Rosso and directed Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo and even designed the Angels from Evangelion.
Program was written and directed by Yoshiaki Kawajiri, the creator of Ninja Scroll and Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust.
World Record was created by Madhouse involved in Trigun and Death Note.
Beyond was by Koji Morimoto, who didn't do much of note (he did direct the concert scenes from Macross Plus apparently).
Detective's Story is by Shinchiro Watanabe, of Cowboy BeBop fame (and Samurai Champloo, and Eureka 7)
Matriculaed was done by Peter Chung, which is admittedly Korean American.
Of course Last Airbender and Legend of Korra count as anime! I see cosplayers dressing up as those characters every year at FanimeCon. But I agree with Chris here, a work's place of origin or home platform shouldn't hamper which genre it belongs to.