Captain Marvel or How Marvel does everything better than everyone else

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Alright, my review. 7.5/10

They're trying a different structure to the story and I don't think they pull it off. That being said, the amnesia was more believable than normal. Normally, I roll my eyes at any amnesia, except Momento. Keep,experimenting Mavel, at least it's something new. I didn't care for Carol friend and could have finished with Earth as soon as they left project Pegasus. Carol was pretty funny but not in a one liner way. It just didn't have the quipiness of a normal Marvel movie. Mendelssohn and the whole Skrulls thing was good. I didn't care about the betrayal at all, those characters had not spent much screen time together, why would I care. But the last fight and nothing to prove was really good. I hate movies scenes that depower someone for a honourable fight (eg. Black Panther.) I also really liked when Marvel found out that Fury screwed up. That was a great moment that sold Larsen for me
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
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The argument is, a hero can never be burdened too much with the responsibility of a villain's death. There's always an element of fate fucking the bad guy over, a decisive blunder that has the hero react in self-defense or something amounting to suicide. Heroes are just running the clock until one of those things happens, and to me that takes away any suspense from the battle. It's a Disney thing - can't have the good guy murder a person, you need a morally squeaky-clean slate to keep things for the whole family. Not to say there hasn't been Disney movies that defy these rules back in the day, but nowadays with the intense moral scrutiny everything receives it's impossible to imagine a superhero do anything but run the clock and wait for the villain to undo himself.
...The Guardians planted a bomb in Ego's brain.
Yeah but for all intents and purposes they just blew up a planet. It felt more like stopping an evil force of nature (like Parallax and Galactus: a bunch of hazy space meanness) than actually killing a person, Kurt Russell avatar notwithstanding.
That doesn?t matter. They killed the bad guy. And I gave you other examples of this happening.
Matters to me. I'm not saying the movies are "wrong" for being unlike how I'd prefer them. But in every villain death there's always an element of a "lucky parry" or split-second self-defense that absolves the good guy from actual murder. And if there isn't then it's like blowing up an obstacle or something like that. That's how I knew Thanos wasn't dead when Thor axed him. No MCU villain would get killed in a direct attack from the good guy.

Mark my words: Thanos is gonna die from a fall, some form of sleight of hand, an attack's gonna bounce back, he's gonna asplode from too much powah or some conveniently clean bullshit. At best he'll "let" himself get killed.
They. Planted. A. Bomb. In. His. Brain. I don?t know how to make this any more clear to you. They flat out said they needed to destroy Ego?s brain and Rocket prepped a bomb with the sole purpose of killing Ego. There is no ?lucky parry? or ?split second self defense.? They went in saying that they needed to kill him.

You?re flat out ignoring what?s in front of your face. And you?re arguing past me.
 

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Look.

I haven?t seen the movie yet, but all the shrieking and howling about ?feminism? this and ?sexism? that are not helping. I just want to enjoy a movie without worrying about all this social justice bullshit, but that?s hard when people can?t come to a civilized agreement anymore.

Sorry for coming off as blunt... I just really wanted to get this off my chest. I don?t expect anyone to listen.
 

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CrazyGirl17 said:
Look.

I haven?t seen the movie yet, but all the shrieking and howling about ?feminism? this and ?sexism? that are not helping. I just want to enjoy a movie without worrying about all this social justice bullshit, but that?s hard when people can?t come to a civilized agreement anymore.

Sorry for coming off as blunt... I just really wanted to get this off my chest. I don?t expect anyone to listen.
You're going to have to point out when society ever came to a civilized agreement. It's been a long tradition since at least the Magna Carta to force one side to give the other Rights etc. And by force, I mean humiliating as well.
 

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trunkage said:
CrazyGirl17 said:
Look.

I haven?t seen the movie yet, but all the shrieking and howling about ?feminism? this and ?sexism? that are not helping. I just want to enjoy a movie without worrying about all this social justice bullshit, but that?s hard when people can?t come to a civilized agreement anymore.

Sorry for coming off as blunt... I just really wanted to get this off my chest. I don?t expect anyone to listen.
You're going to have to point out when society ever came to a civilized agreement. It's been a long tradition since at least the Magna Carta to force one side to give the other Rights etc. And by force, I mean humiliating as well.
Fair enough. I?m just sick of reality getting in the way of my enjoyment of entertainment.
 

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CrazyGirl17 said:
trunkage said:
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Look.

I haven?t seen the movie yet, but all the shrieking and howling about ?feminism? this and ?sexism? that are not helping. I just want to enjoy a movie without worrying about all this social justice bullshit, but that?s hard when people can?t come to a civilized agreement anymore.

Sorry for coming off as blunt... I just really wanted to get this off my chest. I don?t expect anyone to listen.
You're going to have to point out when society ever came to a civilized agreement. It's been a long tradition since at least the Magna Carta to force one side to give the other Rights etc. And by force, I mean humiliating as well.
Fair enough. I?m just sick of reality getting in the way of my enjoyment of entertainment.
Couldn't agree more
 

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CrazyGirl17 said:
trunkage said:
CrazyGirl17 said:
Look.

I haven?t seen the movie yet, but all the shrieking and howling about ?feminism? this and ?sexism? that are not helping. I just want to enjoy a movie without worrying about all this social justice bullshit, but that?s hard when people can?t come to a civilized agreement anymore.

Sorry for coming off as blunt... I just really wanted to get this off my chest. I don?t expect anyone to listen.
You're going to have to point out when society ever came to a civilized agreement. It's been a long tradition since at least the Magna Carta to force one side to give the other Rights etc. And by force, I mean humiliating as well.
Fair enough. I?m just sick of reality getting in the way of my enjoyment of entertainment.
Don't let idiots like that, bother you nor ruin your entertainment. You have the right to enjoy Captain Marvel or whatever else you like or dislike. As my great grandmother told me "See a fool, leave a fool". After seeing Black Panther and Spiderverse, I didn't let people who dislike the movies for racial reasons or try to undermine their success bring me down. Fuck people like that. Most of them are attention whores with nothing better to do with their lives and are all the more miserable because of it.
 

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CrazyGirl17 said:
trunkage said:
CrazyGirl17 said:
Look.

I haven?t seen the movie yet, but all the shrieking and howling about ?feminism? this and ?sexism? that are not helping. I just want to enjoy a movie without worrying about all this social justice bullshit, but that?s hard when people can?t come to a civilized agreement anymore.

Sorry for coming off as blunt... I just really wanted to get this off my chest. I don?t expect anyone to listen.
You're going to have to point out when society ever came to a civilized agreement. It's been a long tradition since at least the Magna Carta to force one side to give the other Rights etc. And by force, I mean humiliating as well.
Fair enough. I?m just sick of reality getting in the way of my enjoyment of entertainment.
If it makes you feel any better the feminist stuff in Captain Marvel is eye rolling at best. It doesn't beat you over the head with it. Most of the problems with it stem from Larson just being a bad fit in the role.
 

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CrazyGirl17 said:
Look.

I haven?t seen the movie yet, but all the shrieking and howling about ?feminism? this and ?sexism? that are not helping. I just want to enjoy a movie without worrying about all this social justice bullshit, but that?s hard when people can?t come to a civilized agreement anymore.

Sorry for coming off as blunt... I just really wanted to get this off my chest. I don?t expect anyone to listen.
This seems an odd stance for you to take. You always come off very progressive.
 

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Saelune said:
CrazyGirl17 said:
Look.

I haven?t seen the movie yet, but all the shrieking and howling about ?feminism? this and ?sexism? that are not helping. I just want to enjoy a movie without worrying about all this social justice bullshit, but that?s hard when people can?t come to a civilized agreement anymore.

Sorry for coming off as blunt... I just really wanted to get this off my chest. I don?t expect anyone to listen.
This seems an odd stance for you to take. You always come off very progressive.

First off, thank you for noticing! And second... I'm all for social equality, I just HATE the people who take it too far. That kind of extremism ruins it or everyone else and makes people like me look bad. I wish I could slap them, but no, no, I have to be "better than that". Yes, I'm bitter. I hope I explained myself better.
 

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CrazyGirl17 said:
I'm all for social equality, I just HATE the people who take it too far. That kind of extremism ruins it or everyone else and makes people like me look bad. I wish I could slap them, but no, no, I have to be "better than that". Yes, I'm bitter.
I understand the frustration, but sometimes they are not worth the headache. For people like that, just be the person you are and shows you like or care about something without looking like an obnoxious twat to others. Other people can be understanding. Like I said before "See a fool, leave a fool".
 

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CrazyGirl17 said:
Saelune said:
CrazyGirl17 said:
Look.

I haven?t seen the movie yet, but all the shrieking and howling about ?feminism? this and ?sexism? that are not helping. I just want to enjoy a movie without worrying about all this social justice bullshit, but that?s hard when people can?t come to a civilized agreement anymore.

Sorry for coming off as blunt... I just really wanted to get this off my chest. I don?t expect anyone to listen.
This seems an odd stance for you to take. You always come off very progressive.

First off, thank you for noticing! And second... I'm all for social equality, I just HATE the people who take it too far. That kind of extremism ruins it or everyone else and makes people like me look bad. I wish I could slap them, but no, no, I have to be "better than that". Yes, I'm bitter. I hope I explained myself better.
This film is not extremist at all.
 

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CrazyGirl17 said:
I'm all for social equality, I just HATE the people who take it too far. That kind of extremism ruins it or everyone else and makes people like me look bad. I wish I could slap them, but no, no, I have to be "better than that". Yes, I'm bitter.
I understand the frustration, but sometimes they are not worth the headache. For people like that, just be the person you are and shows you like or care about something without looking like an obnoxious twat to others. Other people can be understanding. Like I said before "See a fool, leave a fool".
Thanks for the advice, I'm just so done with this crap...

Saelune said:
This film is not extremist at all.
I was leaning more towards people on the internet. I should probably ignore them, but that's not so easy for me...
 

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Look, can't speak for everyone, and obviously there's some idiots on the Internet, but when I saw the film, there were a lot of males, a lot of females, people laughed a few times, some people clapped at the end, and then it was over. That was it.

While I'm not overly enamored with the film (it's simply average), I think the whole "Brie Larson is a SJW!" crowd is really a storm in a tea cup. Apparently the moviegoing public doesn't care, given that it's bringing in the green.
 

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Hawki said:
Look, can't speak for everyone, and obviously there's some idiots on the Internet, but when I saw the film, there were a lot of males, a lot of females, people laughed a few times, some people clapped at the end, and then it was over. That was it.

While I'm not overly enamored with the film (it's simply average), I think the whole "Brie Larson is a SJW!" crowd is really a storm in a tea cup. Apparently the moviegoing public doesn't care, given that it's bringing in the green.
If women had equality, then women in starring roles wouldn't be seen as abnormal.
 

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Saelune said:
If women had equality, then women in starring roles wouldn't be seen as abnormal.
Apart from the twats pushing the "SJW" narrative, who's actually seeing it as being abnormal?
 

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Hawki said:
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If women had equality, then women in starring roles wouldn't be seen as abnormal.
Apart from the twats pushing the "SJW" narrative, who's actually seeing it as being abnormal?
The people bitching about it being SJW. There is a lot of them.
 

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[quote="Saelune" post="18.1056768.24296719"The people bitching about it being SJW. There is a lot of them.[/quote]

Um, you kind of just repeated what I said. I asked, "who, apart from those bitching about it being SJW, are seeing it as abnormal?" You responded "the people bitching about it being SJW."

Anyway, it's kind of a moot point. However many people there are, I think the box office speaks for itself. Generally, people don't go to see movies that they don't want to see because of (insert reason here).