Captain Marvel or How Marvel does everything better than everyone else

[BrawlMan]

I thought it was just okay. Nothing special, but don't understand all the hate.

A large portion of the world is sexist against women. This movie stars a strong women, so it pisses people off.

The movie itself wasn't overbearingly feminist (although Just A Girl playing during a fight was corny as fuck).

I still think Brie Larson isn't a good choice for Carol. The movie really only works because of the supporting cast.

Alita was too much of her drooling over a guy.

Captain Marvel was way better than Alita.


Captain Marvel pisses off sexists. Sounds pretty feminist to me.

When and how was Alita was dragged into this shit-fight?

You dragged it in...though why I quoted Kenbo I am not sure. Maybe I did that accidentally and meant to respond directly to you...I honestly don't remember s:

When and how was Alita was dragged into this shit-fight?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-06/anti-sjws-launch-alita-challenge-boycott-man-hating-captain-marvel

The "Alita Challenge," that's how.

Well look at that, another bunch of assholes with nothing better to do with their lives. Either they're not getting any or they suck at relationships.

I thought it was just okay. Nothing special, but don't understand all the hate.

A large portion of the world is sexist against women. This movie stars a strong women, so it pisses people off.

The movie itself wasn't overbearingly feminist (although Just A Girl playing during a fight was corny as fuck).

I still think Brie Larson isn't a good choice for Carol. The movie really only works because of the supporting cast.

Alita was too much of her drooling over a guy.

Captain Marvel was way better than Alita.


Captain Marvel pisses off sexists. Sounds pretty feminist to me.

Oh please, no need to insult Alita. Her falling head over heels for Hugo is in the manga. And for the record, she doesn't get another love interest again as the manga goes on. Besides, having her like a guy does not make her weak. Nor is it her defining character trait. You are entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong on this one. Specifically the Alita drooling over a guy part. I don't care about the other two parts you said.

I do not know the source material, so I honestly don't know how much of me not liking the movie was the movie's fault and how much was the manga's fault.

Either way, my opinions stand. And no, liking a guy doesn't make you weak, but literally taking your heart out and giving it to him for no good reason...that was weird, dumb, and insane.

And again, I need to point out how often heterosexuality is shoved in our faces needlessly. The good parts of Alita was the robot fighting, the bad was the boy meets robot girl stuff. Captain Marvel didn't waste any time with love interests though, and the movie deserves credit for that.

You have a point about Hollywood shoving down romance down our faces; especially when it's forced, but once again, it was in the manga, so that's not Hollywood's fault (the heart scene was Hollywood's though).

But seriously, out of all the flaws in the movie that part bothers you the most. Yeah it's cheesy, but I've seen much worse. Scene like this does not break a movie for me. I think you setting your standards a bit too high.

Oh please, no need to insult Alita. Her falling head over heels for Hugo is in the manga. And for the record, she doesn't get another love interest again as the manga goes on. Besides, having her like a guy does not make her weak. Nor is it her defining character trait. You are entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong on this one. Specifically the Alita drooling over a guy part. I don't care about the other two parts you said.

Did they have to make him a heart throb though? Hugo's supposed to be this scruffy hobo kid, not some boyband member with a leather jacket and a motorcycle. It was a nice contrast where Alita was this sophisticated piece of technology and Hugo was this raggedy bum.

I agree, the film fumbles in this area a bit. It's in the video I posted a page before. I prefer his scruffy look in the manga. Otherwise, I don't have much problems with Alita.

That the manga was bad doesn't really take from my point.

I think you are setting your standards too low.

No, I just know how to have fun and not a little cheesy scene irk me Yeah, yeah, ymmv, but honestly, that feels very nitpicky. Try to takes thing easy; no need to be serious all of the time.

That is a weak way to dismiss my view. I fucking loved the two robot fights, the one where she first fights those 3 people where it seemed like out of a video game, and the rollerball fight. I just didn't like the 99% of the movie where it was a shitty romance film. Don't think because I have standards, that it means I don't enjoy things.

I wasn't trying to dismiss your view nor implying it, that was all you. The romance ain't bad, just basic. I won't take this further, but you're sounding really salty.

Salty because you clearly tried to dismiss my views in an unfair way. You can pretend you didn't, but you did. Calling me salty is you again trying to dismiss my view just because you don't like it.

You do realize I stopped caring at this point. I am serious when I say this, but have a blessed day or evening (I don't know your time zone).

 

[Saelune]

I thought it was just okay. Nothing special, but don't understand all the hate.

A large portion of the world is sexist against women. This movie stars a strong women, so it pisses people off.

The movie itself wasn't overbearingly feminist (although Just A Girl playing during a fight was corny as fuck).

I still think Brie Larson isn't a good choice for Carol. The movie really only works because of the supporting cast.

Alita was too much of her drooling over a guy.

Captain Marvel was way better than Alita.


Captain Marvel pisses off sexists. Sounds pretty feminist to me.

When and how was Alita was dragged into this shit-fight?

You dragged it in...though why I quoted Kenbo I am not sure. Maybe I did that accidentally and meant to respond directly to you...I honestly don't remember s:

When and how was Alita was dragged into this shit-fight?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-06/anti-sjws-launch-alita-challenge-boycott-man-hating-captain-marvel

The "Alita Challenge," that's how.

Well look at that, another bunch of assholes with nothing better to do with their lives. Either they're not getting any or they suck at relationships.

I thought it was just okay. Nothing special, but don't understand all the hate.

A large portion of the world is sexist against women. This movie stars a strong women, so it pisses people off.

The movie itself wasn't overbearingly feminist (although Just A Girl playing during a fight was corny as fuck).

I still think Brie Larson isn't a good choice for Carol. The movie really only works because of the supporting cast.

Alita was too much of her drooling over a guy.

Captain Marvel was way better than Alita.


Captain Marvel pisses off sexists. Sounds pretty feminist to me.

Oh please, no need to insult Alita. Her falling head over heels for Hugo is in the manga. And for the record, she doesn't get another love interest again as the manga goes on. Besides, having her like a guy does not make her weak. Nor is it her defining character trait. You are entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong on this one. Specifically the Alita drooling over a guy part. I don't care about the other two parts you said.

I do not know the source material, so I honestly don't know how much of me not liking the movie was the movie's fault and how much was the manga's fault.

Either way, my opinions stand. And no, liking a guy doesn't make you weak, but literally taking your heart out and giving it to him for no good reason...that was weird, dumb, and insane.

And again, I need to point out how often heterosexuality is shoved in our faces needlessly. The good parts of Alita was the robot fighting, the bad was the boy meets robot girl stuff. Captain Marvel didn't waste any time with love interests though, and the movie deserves credit for that.

You have a point about Hollywood shoving down romance down our faces; especially when it's forced, but once again, it was in the manga, so that's not Hollywood's fault (the heart scene was Hollywood's though).

But seriously, out of all the flaws in the movie that part bothers you the most. Yeah it's cheesy, but I've seen much worse. Scene like this does not break a movie for me. I think you setting your standards a bit too high.

Oh please, no need to insult Alita. Her falling head over heels for Hugo is in the manga. And for the record, she doesn't get another love interest again as the manga goes on. Besides, having her like a guy does not make her weak. Nor is it her defining character trait. You are entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong on this one. Specifically the Alita drooling over a guy part. I don't care about the other two parts you said.

Did they have to make him a heart throb though? Hugo's supposed to be this scruffy hobo kid, not some boyband member with a leather jacket and a motorcycle. It was a nice contrast where Alita was this sophisticated piece of technology and Hugo was this raggedy bum.

I agree, the film fumbles in this area a bit. It's in the video I posted a page before. I prefer his scruffy look in the manga. Otherwise, I don't have much problems with Alita.

That the manga was bad doesn't really take from my point.

I think you are setting your standards too low.

No, I just know how to have fun and not a little cheesy scene irk me Yeah, yeah, ymmv, but honestly, that feels very nitpicky. Try to takes thing easy; no need to be serious all of the time.

That is a weak way to dismiss my view. I fucking loved the two robot fights, the one where she first fights those 3 people where it seemed like out of a video game, and the rollerball fight. I just didn't like the 99% of the movie where it was a shitty romance film. Don't think because I have standards, that it means I don't enjoy things.

I wasn't trying to dismiss your view nor implying it, that was all you. The romance ain't bad, just basic. I won't take this further, but you're sounding really salty.

Salty because you clearly tried to dismiss my views in an unfair way. You can pretend you didn't, but you did. Calling me salty is you again trying to dismiss my view just because you don't like it.

You do realize I stopped caring at this point. I am serious when I say this, but have a blessed day or evening (I don't know your time zone).

'I don't care and I want everyone to see how much I don't care!'

 

[Hawki]

So...is this a Captain Marvel thread, or an Alita thread?

Or is it a Captain Marvel AND Alita thread? 0_0

 

[BrawlMan]

So...is this a Captain Marvel thread, or an Alita thread?

Or is it a Captain Marvel AND Alita thread? 0_0

Looks like it's both for right now.

Strange, isn't it?!!! GGGGGGRRRRRRHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

 

[Hawki]

Looks like it's both for right now.

Strange, isn't it?!!! GGGGGGRRRRRRHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

...does that mean that one of us is going to jump up into the air, smash through a spaceship, and look up Carol or Alita's panties?

 

[BrawlMan]

Looks like it's both for right now.

Strange, isn't it?!!! GGGGGGRRRRRRHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

...does that mean that one of us is going to jump up into the air, smash through a spaceship, and look up Carol or Alita's panties?

You can of if you want; which lady is up to you.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Looks like it's both for right now.

Strange, isn't it?!!! GGGGGGRRRRRRHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

...does that mean that one of us is going to jump up into the air, smash through a spaceship, and look up Carol or Alita's panties?

And again, how did we get here?

 

[BrawlMan]

Looks like it's both for right now.

Strange, isn't it?!!! GGGGGGRRRRRRHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

...does that mean that one of us is going to jump up into the air, smash through a spaceship, and look up Carol or Alita's panties?

And again, how did we get here?

You already know the answer to that. If you want get the topic back on track, feel free, I already said my piece.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Looks like it's both for right now.

Strange, isn't it?!!! GGGGGGRRRRRRHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

...does that mean that one of us is going to jump up into the air, smash through a spaceship, and look up Carol or Alita's panties?

And again, how did we get here?

You already know the answer to that. If you want get the topic back on track, feel free, I already said my piece.

No I mean very specifically how did we get to looking up Alita or Carol's panties? Like I feel there's a whole bunch of posts that got removed and I'm missing vital context.

 

[Casual Shinji]

No I mean very specifically how did we get to looking up Alita or Carol's panties? Like I feel there's a whole bunch of posts that got removed and I'm missing vital context.

Don't they both wear onies though?

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

No I mean very specifically how did we get to looking up Alita or Carol's panties? Like I feel there's a whole bunch of posts that got removed and I'm missing vital context.

Don't they both wear onies though?

I can see em going commando I guess. Panties are symbols of the patriarchy and are fetishized by us evil penis-wielders!

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

Saw Captain Marvel. It's ok. Story ok. Action ok. Performances ok. Effects ok, aside from The Uncanny Phil Coulson (guess de-aging Sam Jackson got all the budget). Captain Marvel herself feels kind of dull to me tho, but that just might be because the MCU is already full of larger than life characters with several movies worth of development behind them, making her seem plain by comparison. Also, yoo know, Sam Jackson IS in it. Dude tends to out-charisma pretty much anyone.

 

[Here Comes Tomorrow]

Looks like it's both for right now.

Strange, isn't it?!!! GGGGGGRRRRRRHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

...does that mean that one of us is going to jump up into the air, smash through a spaceship, and look up Carol or Alita's panties?

And again, how did we get here?

Jews.

 

[CaitSeith]

Poor Alita movie. It didn't deserve to be associated with anti-feminist edgelords and compared with Captain Marvel like it was a competition. Screw the edgelords!

 

[Hawki]

Poor Alita movie. It didn't deserve to be associated with anti-feminist edgelords and compared with Captain Marvel like it was a competition. Screw the edgelords!

So, fun little fact, CM made 153 million over its opening weekend, Alita made 3.2 million in the same period. So much for the challenge.

I'd say more, but I barely care. We have a terrible film failing to beat an average film. Like, how is this a thing? How did this become a thing?

(Rhetorical question, don't bother answering.)

 

[Erttheking]

I thought it was just okay. Nothing special, but don't understand all the hate.

A large portion of the world is sexist against women. This movie stars a strong women, so it pisses people off.

The movie itself wasn't overbearingly feminist (although Just A Girl playing during a fight was corny as fuck).

I still think Brie Larson isn't a good choice for Carol. The movie really only works because of the supporting cast.

I think the actual concern is that it will be Captain Marvel and her alone that will the chosen one to ultimately defeat and kill Thanos.

I don't think anybody's gonna "kill" Thanos. He's gonna die from tapping into too much power or some blameless bullshit like every other MCU villain. Disney can't have their heroes kill the villain. Ever notice how all the MCU baddies either kill each other or otherwise kill themselves?

Uh. Tony ordered Pepper to overload a reactor in Iron Monger?s face. Tony and Rhodey overloaded their beams in Whiplash?s face. Pepper killed the Mandarin. Thor killed what?s his face from the Dark World. The Guardians of the Galaxy killed Ego with a bomb. Black Panther stabbed Killmonger. Vision fried the last Ultron robot.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I thought it was just okay. Nothing special, but don't understand all the hate.

A large portion of the world is sexist against women. This movie stars a strong women, so it pisses people off.

The movie itself wasn't overbearingly feminist (although Just A Girl playing during a fight was corny as fuck).

I still think Brie Larson isn't a good choice for Carol. The movie really only works because of the supporting cast.

I think the actual concern is that it will be Captain Marvel and her alone that will the chosen one to ultimately defeat and kill Thanos.

I don't think anybody's gonna "kill" Thanos. He's gonna die from tapping into too much power or some blameless bullshit like every other MCU villain. Disney can't have their heroes kill the villain. Ever notice how all the MCU baddies either kill each other or otherwise kill themselves?

Uh. Tony ordered Pepper to overload a reactor in Iron Monger?s face. Tony and Rhodey overloaded their beams in Whiplash?s face. Pepper killed the Mandarin. Thor killed what?s his face from the Dark World. The Guardians of the Galaxy killed Ego with a bomb. Black Panther stabbed Killmonger. Vision fried the last Ultron robot.

From Wikipedia:
Killmonger "refuses to be healed, choosing to die ".
Malekith "is crushed by his own damaged ship."
Vanko "commits suicide by blowing up his suit."

As for the rest, everybody sort of gets an ironic punishment playing agaisnt their hubris that might as well be handed over by fate.
Ultron is a robot, killed by another robot.
Ego is a planet that destroys planets until it's destroyed itself.
Killian is infected with a virus that takes over and is killed by another person infected with a virus that takes over.
Stane is operating and unwieldy, unstable power-hungry machine that gets fried from too much power. Pepper pushed a button.
Bonus: Cross uses a suit to shrink in size, his suit shrinks him to death. Scott pushed a button.

Every villain either chooses to die, dies from "too much power!" or otherwise simply gets just desserts from fate by having the good guy push a button and watch. Death is usually played more as their fault rather than the hero's, who remains blameless. I think that's a very comfy, convenient way of ending a fight (or a movie for that matter). Nobody ever really makes a tough choice. It's as if the hero just has to run the clock down until the villain makes a mistake and kills himself.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I thought it was just okay. Nothing special, but don't understand all the hate.

A large portion of the world is sexist against women. This movie stars a strong women, so it pisses people off.

The movie itself wasn't overbearingly feminist (although Just A Girl playing during a fight was corny as fuck).

I still think Brie Larson isn't a good choice for Carol. The movie really only works because of the supporting cast.

I think the actual concern is that it will be Captain Marvel and her alone that will the chosen one to ultimately defeat and kill Thanos.

I don't think anybody's gonna "kill" Thanos. He's gonna die from tapping into too much power or some blameless bullshit like every other MCU villain. Disney can't have their heroes kill the villain. Ever notice how all the MCU baddies either kill each other or otherwise kill themselves?

Uh. Tony ordered Pepper to overload a reactor in Iron Monger?s face. Tony and Rhodey overloaded their beams in Whiplash?s face. Pepper killed the Mandarin. Thor killed what?s his face from the Dark World. The Guardians of the Galaxy killed Ego with a bomb. Black Panther stabbed Killmonger. Vision fried the last Ultron robot.

From Wikipedia:
Killmonger "refuses to be healed, choosing to die ".
Malekith "is crushed by his own damaged ship."
Vanko "commits suicide by blowing up his suit."

As for the rest, everybody sort of gets an ironic punishment playing agaisnt their hubris that might as well be handed over by fate.
Ultron is a robot, killed by another robot.
Ego is a planet that destroys planets until it's destroyed itself.
Killian is infected with a virus that takes over and is killed by another person infected with a virus that takes over.
Stane is operating and unwieldy, unstable power-hungry machine that gets fried from too much power. Pepper pushed a button.
Bonus: Cross uses a suit to shrink in size, his suit shrinks him to death. Scott pushed a button.

Every villain either chooses to die, dies from "too much power!" or otherwise simply gets just desserts from fate by having the good guy push a button and watch. Death is usually played more as their fault rather than the hero's, who remains blameless. I think that's a very comfy, convenient way of ending a fight (or a movie for that matter). Nobody ever really makes a tough choice. It's as if the hero just has to run the clock down until the villain makes a mistake and kills himself.

You said the villains always die by overloading their powers or killing themselves.

You can't move the goal posts to now include karmetic deaths.

It's karmic.
Of which "power overload" and "killing themselves" are examples.