CEO: Square Enix Has Become "Weaker Than Expected"

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zombie711

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Find a way to continue The world ends with you, but in a good way. I want to know what shiki looks like. Also KH3 for 3ds please, pehapse a birth by sleep port as well. Anything else? I got it! make a baseball rpg. I know you can do it.
 

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Genixma said:
I can tell you right now. Final Fantasy XIII-2. Cancel that.
Beat me to it by a lot. Just quit. I mean, X-2, now XIII-2. All from the same team..... such a bad idea.

How about a new property! You know, instead of releasing endless remakes of your best games, and sequels to games that looked great but were not great.
 

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thefreeman0001 said:
if this doesnt make them produce ff7 i dont know what would.
Well, you got the second part right. They already discussed publicly why they aren't going to remake FF7. Sorry.
 

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The only games besides Final Fantasy titles I actually enjoy from this company nowadays are from the Playstation era. You know, the peak of creativity at old Square Soft and Enix. The period they gave us Threads of Fate, Brave Fencer Musashi, Legend of Mana, Valkyrie Profile, Star Ocean, Xenogears, Chrono Cross, SaGa Frontier, Vagrant Story, Bushido Blade, Front Mission, Parasite Eve...

Where are these games?
 

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So they seem surprised they lose money when they release several games that totally suck? Go figure...
 

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I'll tell you why it fails. Because it hasn't made a good game... ever.

And I mean make as in develop, not merely publish like for Batman Arkham Asylum.
 

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Regardless if the company is weak or not, if they manage to mess up Hitman or Deus Ex I hope the entire comunity burn down their head office!
 

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jpoon said:
So they seem surprised they lose money when they release several games that totally suck? Go figure...
Treyarch got away with it plenty of times though.

Treblaine said:
I'll tell you why it fails. Because it hasn't made a good game... ever.
lolno
 

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Liudeius said:
Square Enix needs to actually focus on making quality rather than quantity. These days if I see a Square Enix game that isn't Final Fantasy I avoid it because so many of their games are low quality.
I see low quality even within their Final Fantasy series. They've lost their touch and are now purely running on reputation, which doesn't hold up when you don't deliver.
 

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GamesB2 said:
Square does really need a revamp...

Except for Deus Ex, that's looking really good and I hope this in no way negatively affects that game.

I'd like to see them get better, but only under the ideal that they improve their games, FF13 was fun but a massive letdown, I'd rather go dig out my PS1 and replay FF7 again and again and again...

Extra: I get that they might never remake FF7... but at the very least release it on XBLA, that is a ton of cash right there at minimal effort.
thats a pretty good idea ff7 on the xbox also psn when it gets back up they should re release all the old ones there

also as much as i like the ff games there are to many ff games in that list they need to keep making them sure but they really need to branch out alittle maybe hope into bed with bioware and see what the baby is it will ethier be gods gift to man kind or somthing so terrible that we will look at ff13 and think dam that waset so bad was it
 

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I honestly believe they've gone totally downhill since the merge with Enix.

Enix was, at best, a sub-par RPG developer that only had one ok series, the dragon quest games. When Squaresoft who was at the time my favourite developer, became square enix, i notice a big loss in gameplay greatness.
 

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NickCaligo42 said:
Orcus The Ultimate said:
my guess is that there's less and less people that plays the Final Fantasy games, since it's follow ups and always the same in a different set.
Truth be told, games are timeless. A good game system is a good game system. It doesn't matter if it's one year from release or TEN years from release. Notice that nobody's rushing to make a sequel to Basketball or Football? That's because games are timeless. Nobody got bored with the FF franchise, it's more that they haven't released a proper follow-on to the series in ten years. Plenty of people, I think, would happily welcome a competently done FF title--that's why so many people on this forum want to pin their hopes on V13.
i guess your right, but still, it's not with hopes that things will be done as the players expect unless they boycott the releases, which is difficult...
 

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Mordwyl said:
The only games besides Final Fantasy titles I actually enjoy from this company nowadays are from the Playstation era. You know, the peak of creativity at old Square Soft and Enix. The period they gave us Threads of Fate, Brave Fencer Musashi, Legend of Mana, Valkyrie Profile, Star Ocean, Xenogears, Chrono Cross, SaGa Frontier, Vagrant Story, Bushido Blade, Front Mission, Parasite Eve...

Where are these games?
Valkyrie profile got a couple of odd sequels.

Star Ocean got a sequel this generation and it was terrible.

Xenogears was followed up by Xenosaga 1, 2, and 3, and they're all terrible.

Parasite Eve just got a sequel on... 3DS, I think? It's not very good, from what I hear. Same with Front Mission, which has been a handheld franchise for a while. Same with Mana.

The Vagrant Story team, meanwhile, got cannibalized and is now Final Fantasy Team B; the ones responsible, in point of fact, for FF12 and 13--albeit under new management as the original creator of Vagrant Story was forced to resign because of how he ran FF12's production into the ground.

Can't say for the rest of them.
 

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Sion_Barzahd said:
I honestly believe they've gone totally downhill since the merge with Enix.

Enix was, at best, a sub-par RPG developer that only had one ok series, the dragon quest games. When Squaresoft who was at the time my favourite developer, became square enix, i notice a big loss in gameplay greatness.
So I'm not the only one who noticed that. Seems the golden days of SquareEnix was when they were Squaresoft. So I blame Final Fantasy The Spirits Within, for almost bankrupting Squaresoft and forcing them to merge with Enix. Seriously I'm all for some new IP the company needs it but they need to hire better writers and production managers. Pretty graphics are nice but without a good story you have nothing.
 

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You want to more money Square Enix? Then here's what you do....make TWEWY 2. I can tell you that more people would buy that then ANY FF game.
 

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Hmm new Square Ip's sound interesting, though Im personally hopeing they make a godd Wii or 3DS rpg
 

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Sion_Barzahd said:
I honestly believe they've gone totally downhill since the merge with Enix.

Enix was, at best, a sub-par RPG developer that only had one ok series, the dragon quest games. When Squaresoft who was at the time my favourite developer, became square enix, i notice a big loss in gameplay greatness.
Funny. Enix has made some pretty good non dragon quest games although mergers are known to damage a company for assorted reasons. What Enix does with there games don't related to how final fantasy games have changed. Also we have to account for who they publish and how they handle there business.
 

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Tom Goldman said:
Perhaps these titles, combined with its brand new IPs, can help Square Enix make a recovery in the future.
That's more than a little bit overoptimistic I feel.

Their current release titles read like a lineup of everything that put the company where it is now.

I'm of the opinion that Square Enix needs to do something drastic to get them out of the shit they buried themselves in. Releasing the exact same titles that pushed them over the edges of greatness will not cut it.
 

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They just need to go back and look at what made FF6-10 great, and perhaps just make a new JRPG IP, keep the solid gameplay with all the modern conveniences, get a SOLID, SIMPLE storyline with characters that are actually likable instead of clawing at these tired old anime character cliches (Oh, a brooding male lead and a young happy-go-lucky girl, I am shocked and surprised.)

Like someone said up top - quality, not quantity, please.