Amethyst Wind said:They are irrational and can't be reasoned with.
Their energy seems limitless compared to adults.
They are experiencing things for the first time, things we take for granted and don't feel the need to explain but then have to when the kids ask.
Children are a huge drain on everything you are; financially, physically, emotionally, mentally. They are a very long term investment and don't really start paying off for years.
BloatedGuppy said:Also, children are loud and smelly and rude and generally profoundly irritating when you don't have a superhighway of hormones coursing through you.
All of this. Im fine with kids in small doses, but thats it. Maybe if i get my own kids and my "paternal instinct" kicks in my opinion might change, though for now, no thanks.lRookiel said:I dislike children because they whine, they moan, they want, they hate, they cause trouble, they cry, they would just make my life a living hell and I feel sorry for my parents sometimes for those facts alone.....
Yeah, I'm not a "family man"......
You say that, but i am in fact not whining i am asking what others think of it.JoJoDeathunter said:This site has a very high proportion of male teenagers, who generally are the least tolerant of children which is why such strong opinions are around here. Teenagers tend to try to rebel against the accepted society norms too, which to be fair in some cases can be a good thing if the social norms are racist or sexist for example, even if it's redundant with this topic. Just wait a decade or two and eventually chances are the hormones will finally kick in and they'll change their minds.
Until then, just let them have their own opinions I guess, everyone's different. I find a lot, perhaps even most, adults boring to be around but I don't whine about it on Internet forums, instead I make friends with those who get along with.
Not necessarily. With the exception of emotional and biological arguments kids don't hold any "value". As a whole we're beyond this point when we had to blindly oblige the laws of nature, so it's perfectly normal that at least some people stay away from reproduction.LadyxDevilish said:Isn't having a child something that should be seen as a good thing?
I didn't mean you were whining, it's those who go on and on about how annoying children are that grind my gears, especially those who speak their opinions as if they are fact. It's pretty clear from societies general attitude to children, from the political "won't someone please think of the children" to the hatred for child killers or abusers, that most adults have a strong emotional attachment to children, regardless of how many Escapist's claim they are super-annoying.LadyxDevilish said:You say that, but i am in fact not whining i am asking what others think of it.JoJoDeathunter said:This site has a very high proportion of male teenagers, who generally are the least tolerant of children which is why such strong opinions are around here. Teenagers tend to try to rebel against the accepted society norms too, which to be fair in some cases can be a good thing if the social norms are racist or sexist for example, even if it's redundant with this topic. Just wait a decade or two and eventually chances are the hormones will finally kick in and they'll change their minds.
Until then, just let them have their own opinions I guess, everyone's different. I find a lot, perhaps even most, adults boring to be around but I don't whine about it on Internet forums, instead I make friends with those who get along with.
and wow some people here really do write the strongest opinions indeed, so i agree that i think its because most just havent reached that age yet, or are too young and *rebellious* or awkward for that matter to hand out a less hormonal responce.
And for those simply saying they dont want kids, well that is just a very understanding opinion!, i mean i am very young still and at this particular moment i dont want them yet, but later on yeah i would, and i certainly dont want a whole house full either, lets just start with one right.
But its most understanding that a lot of people simply dont like all the Nagging and screaming and all that energy draining stuff.
I love you for posting those, I never heard George talk about them.Jonluw said:I don't know how I feel about children at the moment, really, but I can certainly understand why some people hate them.
They're loud, obnoxious, rude, uneducated, smelly money- and timesinks. And they break stuff and need constant supervision.
And parents can be bloody annoying, I hear.
Then there's the fact that not everyone sees putting a new life on earth as a good thing. I certainly didn't when I was depressed (Not clinical depression or anything).
I like children so long as I only have to deal with the good parts though.
Right. We know that they're not supposed to sit quietly in a corner. We don't expect them to. We expect them to be loud, hyperactive and annoying. That's why we don't like them.Reptiloid said:I personally hate the stance that children are somehow annoying by default. Kids are kids, they're not supposed to sit quiet in a corner all day, and if you expect them to, you're an idiot.
It might be the exception, but my girlfriend and I reason (maybe 'bargain' is a better word) with our 2 year old all the time. When she was maybe 16 months old we were playing in her room right after her nap, flipping her around on her mattress (she loves to be thrown around), and I had to change her diaper (which she absolutely hated for some reason). She kept saying 'Flip one more time' when I tried to pick her up, so I finally just said "I'll flip you one more time if you let me change you after." She said ok, I flipped her again and she said "Ok change me daddy" (I flipped her a few more times after changing her since she actually did what she said she would). Just today for her 2 year shots (where she understandably cried after they stuck her) we told her that if she stopped crying she could have a lollipop. The waterworks shut off within 5 seconds. Rare, but it's possible.Amethyst Wind said:They are irrational and can't be reasoned with.