China Bans Avatar
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China needs to oppress human rights just to keep population in check. As soon as this dictatorship falls the country will collapse under its own weight and poor infrastructure.
Germany thinks it needs to oppress rights in fear of the word nazi. But it's just holding them back.
Australia is just stupid.
Germany thinks it needs to oppress rights in fear of the word nazi. But it's just holding them back.
Australia is just stupid.
I think that it's such a shame that people with power become so paranoid and tetchy that they have to ban anything with any subtle meaning that could damage them. Its like trying to stop them having fun incase they hurt themselves. I mean, for god sake, people can watch, see, say and do whatever the hell they like...it infuriates me that people think that just because they have power, they can take away people's liberties.
in short, Governments and people of political power = soul-less DOUCHEBAGS
... i know im not the only person who thinks this way.
in short, Governments and people of political power = soul-less DOUCHEBAGS
... i know im not the only person who thinks this way.
Er....um.....cool hair what?gmaverick019 said:haha very true, props to you for noticing and pointing it outDark Templar said:lolgmaverick019 said:holy shitttt, when i was typing that out i said "Native americans" in my head, and for some reason it typed that out instead, I feel like such a dumbass now, my previous post now has no credibility at all hahaDark Templar said:Native Americans. We aren't "Indians" and calling us that is short sighted and ignorant.gmaverick019 said:
thank you for correcting me, i sincerely feel bad about that now
No real offense taken, just couldn't resist pointing out the irony in your statement there.
*ahem* as a native american...... do you wish you had the cool hair flash drive so you could connect with animals and the land?!?!
odd and random question, just curious.
The Soviet Union was and China is a communist state. The Third Reich was a fascist state, which is even further away from socialism. Communism is not the same as socialism, like fascism is not the same as liberalism (or capitalism).Orcus_35 said:there's no freedom in China, a Dictature remains what it is. just look at China's 4000 years History only emperors and Tyrans...
this pic is a good example:
Jeez. Why does everyone always think socialism equals communism, and therefore equals a dictatorial state? Socialism simply means the stronger in a nation support the weaker. Communism is when there are no stronger and weaker, and everyone is forced to live on the same level (with the exception of the state leaders, which actually kinda opposes the idea of communism). IMO, there's a pretty big difference.
Ricotez said:The Soviet Union was and China is a communist state. The Third Reich was a fascist state, which is even further away from socialism. Communism is not the same as socialism, like fascism is not the same as liberalism (or capitalism).Orcus_35 said:there's no freedom in China, a Dictature remains what it is. just look at China's 4000 years History only emperors and Tyrans...
this pic is a good example:
Jeez. Why does everyone always think socialism equals communism, and therefore equals a dictatorial state? Socialism simply means the stronger in a nation support the weaker. Communism is when there are no stronger and weaker, and everyone is forced to live on the same level (with the exception of the state leaders, which actually kinda opposes the idea of communism). IMO, there's a pretty big difference.
You should know that at that time, Hitler's party was called NSDAP for a reason
(National Socialist German Workers Party) DUH!
There's a pretty ridiculous cycle of China shooting itself in the foot. A modern day problem presents itself. China treats it with a heavy handed approach. Heavy handed approach does far more damage to there credibility then ignoring the problem could ever have. Looks like they managed to turn a few whispers in theaters in to an all out social movement. I can't help but think that China won't ever quite manage to be on top as a superpower as long as they think they can put out a fire with gasoline.
I feel bad for all those Chinese city-dwellers forced out of their homes. Now, thanks to Avatar, you think the Han majority will get that forcing minorities like the Uighur and Tibetans from their homes is just as bad?
That would be a double whammy. To be the highest grossing film of all time AND to bring down socialism in China.
Allegories are the most bullshit reason for banning something, when you just assume that something is an allegory when the creator says it isn't is stupid. I understand the situations in China but damn I hate it when people generalize allegories out of films.
Not to mention I've never seen the movie but aren't the Na'vi supposed to be more assocated with Native Americans?
Not to mention I've never seen the movie but aren't the Na'vi supposed to be more assocated with Native Americans?
Socialism is still a terrible system. Any country in which the government has that much power will inevitable have something go wrong, probably involving peoples individual rights being violated for the supposed "good" of the many.kronoset said:Orcus_35 said:there's no freedom in China, a Dictature remains what it is. just look at China's 4000 years History only emperors and Tyrans...
this pic is a good example:
I really pretty ****ing tired of people equating socialism with mass murders. For instance, with Hitler, the driving forces behind his ideals were eugenics and intolerance...socialism had very little--if anything--to do with it. Also, China is not a socialist regime...it is an authoritarian communist regime. Those you cited above are all EXTREMES, and using them to depict all of socialism. It would be like me saying that all Republicans--including moderates--are just like Rush Limbaugh. Check out the Netherlands. They have socialist institutions in place--do some research on their society and its standard of living. I think you might be a bit surprised.
I for one was not a big fan of Avatar. I mean, sure it looked nice, but the plot was so achingly cliched, and the characters were a bit 2 dimensional (although the acting was good). However, I did find it impressive that the Na'avi, which are purely CGI constructs, were much more expressive then I was expecting.
So, the Chinese Communist Government finds Avatar a threat to them by having their people think hard about their situation. Typical, their government's run by iron fisted old bastards who want to have as much control over the people as possible. The definition of communism (yes I know I spelled it wrong).
Huh, the allegory of the movie in the forced relocation of the Na'vi for the Trail of Tears by the US government to relocate Cherokees off of valuable lands struck me more as the obvious.
Then again, if you want to talk about forced displacement, how's Palestine doing this time of year?
Then again, if you want to talk about forced displacement, how's Palestine doing this time of year?