Christian Game Publisher Looks to Walmart for Help

EnigmaticThor

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Sakurazaki1023 said:
So let me get this straight, a game made by christian game developers about killing demons is fine, but when anyone else makes a game about killing demons it's considered glorifying Satan. I've seen people claim Doom is blasphemous when it's the exact same concept, you (the player) killing demons.

This double standard is so tragically (and ironically) hilarious.

http://lhla.org/breaking_news/?p=3966
http://objectiveministries.org/zounds/gaming.html
That second link has to be a parody site. It's just too over-the-top to be real, as well as subtly making fun of what they're espousing. Hopefully that's the case, anyway.
 

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I have the game. It's... underwhelming. It's not awful, just not particularly good, either. (And this is a Christian speaking.) Badly done tutorials, a strangely bland story, and a weird grudge against rock music (!?!). However, I thought the idea of giving a backstory to EVERY NPC IN THE GAME (optional reads, obviously) was a great touch.
 

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That RTS actually sounds like it might be entertaining.

Also, Christian non-fiction, how does that work?
 

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Presumably with it being an RTS I can also play as Satan himself and launch a full on assault at the gates of heaven? I could have fun with that.
 

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ninja51 said:
Blah, religion is going to kill everyone anyway, let them crazy Texans brainwash their kids.
I is confuzzled.

I mean, don't most religions shed a very bad light on suicide? How is it going to kill everyone?
 

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FelixFox. said:
Also, Christian non-fiction, how does that work?
You've been ninja'd waaaaaaaaaaaay back, and facepalmed at for deliberately misunderstanding what was written.

Christian non-fiction = missionary biographies, self-help books with Christian values inserted, etc.
 

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Well, let me sum up the bulk of my feelings on this: who cares?

Just for the sake of talking, I am a Christian and this by no means affects me in any way. I will not buy these games and I will not endorse them.

EDIT: Also, Wal-Mart sucks...
 

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It only has "niche appeal" largely because they probably won't let you play as the forces of the Antichrist. I don't know about you, but that sounds like it would be a lot more fun.
Hmm...the choices, the choices...

I really dont put alot of faith in Pro-Christian games...it will give such a biased view and...at the end of the day be more shallow than a Ms.World conetestant...
 

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JimbobDa3rd said:
Starke said:
Woodsey said:
There's always another way to preach, isn't there?
Yes, there is. What I want to know is why they're so bad at most of them.
Im not a religious person, and I dont enjoy being preached at, but they are good at it. Just because they arnt succsesful doesnt make them bad. Im sure youve had a convo with a non gamer trying to explain why games are fun, but if they dont want to listen then no mater how good your arguments are you wont get through. Same sorta idea
I'm sorry, that's not what I meant at all. I mean, generally speaking, when a Christian group tries to rebrand something as Christian, like, for example: CCGs in the early 90s, or even the Left Behind films. The quality of the product is usually inferior to the mainstream by a noticeable margin.
 

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Interesting.
i hope they take notes on popular games for theirs.
I like the idea of Christian themed games but, people hear the word Christian Video Game and instantly hear the word Bibleman...(shudders)
Already books like Lord of the Rings and Narnia have brought christian themes into mainstream media very well.
Hopefully they can find a way to bring Christian themes into a fun game without having to completely mask them.
Some Links:

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/220960

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_forces

http://articles.sfgate.com/2006-12-12/news/17323217_1_wal-mart-eternal-forces


Basically, the "Left Behind" game has been around since 2006 and Wal*Mart has been involved before, it's good to see they are deciding to give the games another shot though despite the initial protests. Also I was a bit miffed over the whole thing about the "ban" on the game with our troops in The Middle East.

I'm a Christian, albeit not a deeply spiritual one. The big issue with Christian video gaming has by and large been that a substantial number of people in the US as Christians and widescale portrayal of a lot of the beliefs is found threatening to many minorities and political views. It largely being a matter of Christians losing their free speech rights, and while I do not agree with all Christian speakers, I believe "my own" people are just as entitled to the right to express themselves as anyone else I defend.

The thing with "Left Behind" is that it's a Christian based post-apocolyptic setting, based on a fairly liberal interpetation of Christian spirituality. It's similar on a lot of levels to Steven King's "The Stand" but more overtly religious.

The plot being that "The Rapture" comes and tons of people who are deemed worthy are taken to Heaven. They simply disappear. This incidently includes young children. This mass disappearance creates a lot of havoc as planes go plummeting out of the sky as pilots disappear and things like that. Those "Left Behind" are left to try and find salvation by serving god.

The Anti-Christ "reveals" himself working for the UN and begins taking over the remnants of humanity, doing what he can (very subtly) to prevent people from realizing what is going on, destroy the remaining believers who know the truth and are trying to save people, and preparing for everyone's souls to be pulled down to Hell after the End Of Days completes.

This leads to those who find Christ becoming fairly militant and fighting against the forces of The Anti-Christ and getting fairly militant about "spreading the word" and destroying heathens and such that confuse the issue.

That's a simplistic version, but that's what it's about. All told it's pretty interesting, and something even non-Christians can get into, from their perspective it's no differant than reading a fantasy novel based on say Norse mythology involving Ragnarok.

On the other hand understand that it's "modern" and involves a very solid "Christianity is the truth!" attitude. As a result some of the more extreme aspects of the stories are going to make paticular groups uncomfortable. Think of say how before it's release there was a big deal about whether EA was going to have the guts to have Mohammad in Hell in "Dante's Inferno" since he was present during the Poem. "Left Behind" tends to be less than politically correct at times, but then again this is "The End Of Days" not a "we are the world" essay on liberally interpeted sociology. :p


Not saying this is everyone's cup of tea, but that's the situation in a nut shell. I never played the game, but I'm familiar with the novels as I've read the first one (haven't managed to get the others as $1 paperbacks yet, and there are tons of them) where things get moving, and did some reading up on it since it sounded fairly interesting.

As I understand things the video game version is thematically similar to a less insane version of "Warhammer 40k" where you have clashing armies, propaganda, and a "convert or kill" doctrine in place. Albeit in this case instead of it all being "For The Emperor" it's done in the name of a real religion and in a conflict foretold by real religious texts (ie Revelations).

Liking nuns with machine guns is probably a prerequisite. :p
 

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Gaderael said:
Assassin Xaero said:
I really don't know anyone that goes to Walmart to buy games...
And from living in the bible belt all my life, the though of christian-themed games never fails to make me facepalm.
I buy games at Wal-Mart. I don't have much choice though. It's either them, or the two EB Games that have a combined total of twenty PC games in stock.
Ever heard of a thing called Steam?
 

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Gaderael said:
Assassin Xaero said:
I really don't know anyone that goes to Walmart to buy games...
And from living in the bible belt all my life, the though of christian-themed games never fails to make me facepalm.
I buy games at Wal-Mart. I don't have much choice though. It's either them, or the two EB Games that have a combined total of twenty PC games in stock.
Ahh, well, guess I never thought of that... I've lived in the same city all my life, and it is the 3rd largest in the state so we have like 5-6 Gamestops, tons of walmarts, Best Buy, and other places before they closed (gamecrazy). Walmart sucks for PC games here. It was next to the Latino music section and they had more Latino music then PC games.

I usually go to Best Buy, Amazon, Newegg, or Steam for PC games. :/
 

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It seems like if they wanted their games to have mass appeal, they should focus more on making their games fun to play and original, rather than on how well it's distributed across the country
 

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Rainboq said:
Gaderael said:
Assassin Xaero said:
I really don't know anyone that goes to Walmart to buy games...
And from living in the bible belt all my life, the though of christian-themed games never fails to make me facepalm.
I buy games at Wal-Mart. I don't have much choice though. It's either them, or the two EB Games that have a combined total of twenty PC games in stock.
Ever heard of a thing called Steam?
Oh, I have Steam, and it is great. I've bought a couple of games off it so far, but I prefer having the hard copy if I can get it. Also, I don't have a Credit Card. I have PayPal, and it takes almost two weeks to transfer funds from my bank account to PayPal.
 

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Austin MacKenzie said:
an RTS that pits the player against the forces of the antichrist.
We already have a ton of games where you're fighting demons and other antichristy stuff and they're all labelled by christians as evil for whatever reason.
 

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The problem with the Left Behind series isn't that it's Christian. It's that it's BAD.

http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/left_behind/page/29/
This blog has been dissecting the first book in the series page-by-page over the past several years, and has recently moved on to the second. The author of the blog makes strong arguments for why they're the worst books ever written, from a moral, theological, and literary perspective.

The best part is that the guy who writes the blog is an evangelical Christian. He just hates that people are taking such a twisted and warped reading of the bible and calling it a "literal" one.