Could You Date A Transexual?

[Blow_Pop]

Yes. Being that I am more attracted to personality rather than what is/isn't in someone's pants the issue of gender or sex organs really doesn't matter to me. And has no impact whatsoever on attraction for me. Just like I could also date someone who was asexual even though I'm a highly sexual person.

 

[drisky]

I won't get into the misinformed statements, as I am not the argumentative type anymore.

Seems like you are doing it anyway, it just wouldn't be a transsexual thread with out you correcting people

Uhh I haven't correct anyone just trying educate. I am not arguing with you or anyone else... but if you think THIS is argumentative... this is nothing. As I said, I won't belabor the point. I am ready to move on and have a sensible discussion. I was only trying to expand the knowledge that some people may lack, or may not have heard about.

Not sure how many TS threads pop up here, but i only recently came back after months away.

I was just kind of joking anyways, I thought when you said that you'd leave the thread before things escalate, which it often does. And I'm glad you didn't leave because you can often explain things better then I can. And no there haven't been that many TS threads, I just like how there are a bunch TS lurkers that I hardly see on the boards all show up at once, its like seeing old friends.

 

[Beautiful Tragedy]

I won't get into the misinformed statements, as I am not the argumentative type anymore.

Seems like you are doing it anyway, it just wouldn't be a transsexual thread with out you correcting people

Uhh I haven't correct anyone just trying educate. I am not arguing with you or anyone else... but if you think THIS is argumentative... this is nothing. As I said, I won't belabor the point. I am ready to move on and have a sensible discussion. I was only trying to expand the knowledge that some people may lack, or may not have heard about.

Not sure how many TS threads pop up here, but i only recently came back after months away.

I was just kind of joking anyways, I thought when you said that you'd leave the thread before things escalate, which it often does. And I'm glad you didn't leave because you can often explain things better then I can. And no there haven't been that many TS threads, I just like how there are a bunch TS lurkers that I hardly see on the boards all show up at once, its like seeing old friends.

LMAO I see. I didn't mean i would leave the thread, i meant i wouldn't argue, only educate if i can. I did in fact leave escapist for quite some time... personal reasons.

 

[bojackx]

medically speaking, YOU ARE A MALE

Please don't besmirch medicine to try and defend your feelings on the matter. Medically speaking, a MTF transsexual is not male. I'm not saying you have to want to date or even like transsexuals, but don't hide behind "medicine" to cover YOUR issues with it. That's akin to saying "scientifically speaking, the negro is an inferior species" to explain why you'd never date a black person.

You can't just slap "science!" on your phobias, sorry.

Medically speaking, a MTF transsexual still has XY chromosomes, so is still a male. Maybe not in other senses, but most definitely in the medical sense.

And using science to justify his views on the matter is perfectly valid. If they aren't attracted to males, then they aren't going to want to date one. As I said, medically speaking, they are still male. It's hardly a phobia (or racist since you seem to implied for whatever reason).

 

[Sir Pootis]

Being Bisexual, I don't really care what you're like. As long as you're attractive (Physically and personality-wise), I'd probably go out with you.

 

[Jenvas1306]

nope. I wouldnt date a transsexual. I think it would make it too much a topic and I'm happy with my cisgender bf.
also, this thread shouldnt exist. there are too many opinions based on stereotypes instead of actual experiance and I'm glad others do the explaining and correcting here.

if you are a straight guy and cant date a transsexual you are physically and mentally attracted to, then you got a problem, maybe homophobia.

btw, for those who say you allways see it, how do you notice when you dont notice?

 

[Jenvas1306]

Medically speaking, a MTF transsexual still has XY chromosomes, so is still a male. Maybe not in other senses, but most definitely in the medical sense.

And using science to justify his views on the matter is perfectly valid. If they aren't attracted to males, then they aren't going to want to date one. As I said, medically speaking, they are still male. It's hardly a phobia (or racist since you seem to implied for whatever reason).

what is with XXY? or someone with the 'hairless woman'-syndrome? a person whos body isnt influenced by testosterone and is physically female looking and mentally female but still has XY?
and are you only attracted to that last X chromosome or to all of them? must be difficult to get the equipment to every date to see if you are attracted or not

 

[drisky]

The thing is if someone feels trapped in the wrong gender, they can decide for themselves to change this and be of a different gender. But they can't decide this for everyone else around them, and say that those who don't see them as what they themselves now perceive their gender to be, as close minded and oppressive.

Gender is most definately an important thing otherwise people who feel trapped in the wrong one wouldn't have an issue with it. And changing it drastically impacts the lives of the person who changes it and the people around them. It's not just a simple "Now I am a woman/man; deal with it".

Ok, but you have to understand that people want to avoid people that offend them. Imagine if more then have the people in the world refereed to you as a woman, you know your not and you think the notion is ridiculous. Still most of the people around you call you something you are not. At a certain point in that you get real tired of the people who incorrectly label you. You don't think of them being tolerant of you when they keep calling you something they know you find offensive. It doesn't take long before you no longer want to associate with these people you have to keep putting you down.

I'll even give you a non gender example. One of my best friends Dad abandoned him. He preferred to think of himself not having a Dad, and talking about his Dad offended him. I could explain to him that biologically he has to have a Dad and keep bringing it up, but to do that would be offensive and he would end up no longer being my friend. I would not think of my self as tolerant to his way of thinking if I was constantly trying to throw it back in his face.

 

[krazykidd]

Nope . Never . Ever . And if i date a person who i thought was born a woman to find out they weren't i'd probably go to jail for murder .

You know what , i think i'm going to ask ever girl i meet if they were born a girl. I'm scared now .

 

[Casual Shinji]

It's not ok because...

a) They "place so much importance on gender" because it's their body and their brain. Your (not just you, but many people in this thread) opinion that they are not "real" men/women is unnecessary and uncalled for.

b) Trans* people are assaulted, raped, and murdered every day by people operating under the same logic that "if you're a guy you're a guy." This "opinion" is held by too many people in society and is not acceptable.

a) Like it or not, our brains our hardwired to think in terms of gender. Again, otherwise a transgender wouldn't feel the need to change their sex. Just as their brain is hardwired to see themselves as female (or male) eventhough they're biologically male (or female), my brain is hardwired to see them as the gender they biologically are.

b) However, I don't use this logic to kill or rape, I use it too decypher whether or not I would date someone. Not too big a difference, but still...

 

[Beffudled Sheep_v1legacy]

I'd date a MTF if they had all of the proper treatments to become more feminine looking and had a personality and interests I could get along with. Sexy women are sexy women regardless of their DNA.

But I'd want kids from my own seed so I wouldn't marry or go into a long term relationship with one unless they were okay with me using my sperm to fertilize another woman.
But if they were cool with that I'd happily raise a family/marry/whatever else with one no problem.

Free love for everyone

 

[Beautiful Tragedy]

Nope . Never . Ever . And if i date a person who i thought was born a woman to find out they weren't i'd probably go to jail for murder .

You know what , i think i'm going to ask ever girl i meet if they were born a girl. I'm scared now .

so murder is a level headed well thought out reaction? THIS is why we hate hate crime laws, to protect people who are regularly targeted for such actions.

 

[bojackx]

Medically speaking, a MTF transsexual still has XY chromosomes, so is still a male. Maybe not in other senses, but most definitely in the medical sense.

And using science to justify his views on the matter is perfectly valid. If they aren't attracted to males, then they aren't going to want to date one. As I said, medically speaking, they are still male. It's hardly a phobia (or racist since you seem to implied for whatever reason).

what is with XXY? or someone with the 'hairless woman'-syndrome? a person whos body isnt influenced by testosterone and is physically female looking and mentally female but still has XY?
and are you only attracted to that last X chromosome or to all of them? must be difficult to get the equipment to every date to see if you are attracted or not

I don't ever recall saying that transexuals can't be attractive. What I'm saying is, in my eyes, a MTF transexual is not a female, they're just a mutilated male, which without trying to offend anyone, I find pretty gross. They sure can look like a female, but if I know that they're male then I'm not going to date them.

 

[Jenvas1306]

a) Like it or not, our brains our hardwired to think in terms of gender. Again, otherwise a transgender wouldn't feel the need to change their sex. Just as their brain is hardwired to see themselves as female (or male) eventhough they're biologically male (or female), my brain is hardwired to see them as the gender they biologically are.

b) However, I don't use this logic to kill or rape, I use it too decypher whether or not I would date someone. Not too big a difference, but still...

your brain is hardwired for your opinion? that must be one special medical conditon. how do you live with never being able to learn or change?

 

[bananafishtoday]

It's not ok because...

a) They "place so much importance on gender" because it's their body and their brain. Your (not just you, but many people in this thread) opinion that they are not "real" men/women is unnecessary and uncalled for.

b) Trans* people are assaulted, raped, and murdered every day by people operating under the same logic that "if you're a guy you're a guy." This "opinion" is held by too many people in society and is not acceptable.

a) Like it or not, our brains our hardwired to think in terms of gender. Again, otherwise a transgender wouldn't feel the need to change their sex. Just as their brain is hardwired to see themselves as female (or male) eventhough they're biologically male (or female), my brain is hardwired to see them as the gender they biologically are.

b) However, I don't use this logic to kill or rape, I use it too decypher whether or not I would date someone. Not too big a difference, but still...

Who you date is your business. I'm just trying to explain that the logic you employ is the exact same kind that "people" like this employ:

Nope . Never . Ever . And if i date a person who i thought was born a woman to find out they weren't i'd probably go to jail for murder .

You know what , i think i'm going to ask ever girl i meet if they were born a girl. I'm scared now .

 

[Casual Shinji]

The thing is if someone feels trapped in the wrong gender, they can decide for themselves to change this and be of a different gender. But they can't decide this for everyone else around them, and say that those who don't see them as what they themselves now perceive their gender to be, as close minded and oppressive.

Gender is most definately an important thing otherwise people who feel trapped in the wrong one wouldn't have an issue with it. And changing it drastically impacts the lives of the person who changes it and the people around them. It's not just a simple "Now I am a woman/man; deal with it".

Ok, but you have to understand that people want to avoid people that offend them. Imagine if more then have the people in the world refereed to you as a woman, you know your not and you think the notion is ridiculous. Still most of the people around you call you something you are not. At a certain point in that you get real tired of the people who incorrectly label you. You don't think of them being tolerant of you when they keep calling you something they know you find offensive. It doesn't take long before you no longer want to associate with these people you have to keep putting you down.

I wouldn't bring up a transgender's current or biological gender in a conversation anymore then I would a non-transgender's.

If I should hang around with male friends (if I had any), I wouldn't be going 'Hey, you're a guy, because you're a guy. And since you're a guy, you're a guy'. But should one of these male friends (which I don't have) come up to me and ask, 'Would you date me', I would certainly bring up his gender as to why I would not.

 

[Rawne1980]

Ya i do ;P

and yes i am my life fracken rocks atm... I am trilled to be alive! I am SUCH a happy girl these days... MUCH different than the old me.

I'm really glad you are a happy lassy.

Happy to hear you and your missus are doing great too.

Did get a bit worried when I didn't see you around for a while when you were a bit. I didn't think you were going to do anything silly like top yourself (at least, i'd hope you wouldn't) but I knew you were having a bad patch, wanted everything to work out for you.

Shocking, people over the internet care .... I broke the internet law.

Must say mean things to counter balance all the good..... Hmmm, er, I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called 'Arthur King,' you and all your silly English K-nig-hts.

But ignore the Arthur King and the British parts....

Because i'm that original I steal Monty Python insults .... and couldn't think of anything mean to say to you.

 

[Casual Shinji]

a) Like it or not, our brains our hardwired to think in terms of gender. Again, otherwise a transgender wouldn't feel the need to change their sex. Just as their brain is hardwired to see themselves as female (or male) eventhough they're biologically male (or female), my brain is hardwired to see them as the gender they biologically are.

b) However, I don't use this logic to kill or rape, I use it too decypher whether or not I would date someone. Not too big a difference, but still...

your brain is hardwired for your opinion? that must be one special medical conditon. how do you live with never being able to learn or change?

If you mean I won't be able to learn to see transgendered people as 100% their current gender... Then no, I guess I won't.

I'll just have to learn to live with my disfunctional brain.

 

[Jenvas1306]

Medically speaking, a MTF transsexual still has XY chromosomes, so is still a male. Maybe not in other senses, but most definitely in the medical sense.

And using science to justify his views on the matter is perfectly valid. If they aren't attracted to males, then they aren't going to want to date one. As I said, medically speaking, they are still male. It's hardly a phobia (or racist since you seem to implied for whatever reason).

what is with XXY? or someone with the 'hairless woman'-syndrome? a person whos body isnt influenced by testosterone and is physically female looking and mentally female but still has XY?
and are you only attracted to that last X chromosome or to all of them? must be difficult to get the equipment to every date to see if you are attracted or not

I don't ever recall saying that transexuals can't be attractive. What I'm saying is, in my eyes, a MTF transexual is not a female, they're just a mutilated male, which without trying to offend anyone, I find pretty gross. They sure can look like a female, but if I know that they're male then I'm not going to date them.

you didnt get my point there. I was mocking our societies focus on the configuration of one chromosome.
And thank you for the bland insult. do you even know a single transsexial personally? If not, then you should shut up about something you dont even know. M2F transsexuals are not male, thats the point
You are just a mutated female btw, your last chromosome is a reduced version of the compleet X.

 

[Jenvas1306]

a) Like it or not, our brains our hardwired to think in terms of gender. Again, otherwise a transgender wouldn't feel the need to change their sex. Just as their brain is hardwired to see themselves as female (or male) eventhough they're biologically male (or female), my brain is hardwired to see them as the gender they biologically are.

b) However, I don't use this logic to kill or rape, I use it too decypher whether or not I would date someone. Not too big a difference, but still...

your brain is hardwired for your opinion? that must be one special medical conditon. how do you live with never being able to learn or change?

If you mean I won't be able to learn to see transgendered people as 100% their current gender... Then no, I guess I won't.

I'll just have to learn to live with my disfunctional brain.

only if you kill yourself this instant, otherwise you live on with a chance of changing your mind, how scary would that be?

(btw, you cant be transgendered, you are transgender or not)