Crysis 2 Dev Urges Fans Not to Pirate the Game

SinisterGehe

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When do companies realize that keeping data on servers that are connected to the internet is bad thing.
Since when closed networks were out of fashion?

But yeah here it start again; "pirates will destroy the gaming" crying and topics. When do people realize that A.) Pirates don't destroy games, thieves do. B.) Companies could spend more than a day planning their security C.) You can't stop them/us/those/you/I/he/she/it from pirating with DRMs and this nonsense. Long as people are educated and professionals who enjoy games they will crack/mod/download/play/whatever with the means they have. D.) Suing someone to court and make them pay 12million dollars for pirating changes nothing, wont work and helps no one. You only get bad reputaion for destroying someones life.

But I shall clear new season of "Blame the pirates for anything that is wrong with gaming" open. LEt the flames burn.
 

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its bad news for PC gaming every time something like this happens.

Makes me sad :'(

Of course it won't kill PC gaming but it will, and is, changing the face of gaming on the PC. We're seeing the fallout from this already... where are the PC exclusives that push the boundaries of the hardware? (like the first crysis)... Dead and gone.
Now all we have on the PC (with a few notable exceptions) are the lukewarm scraps from the console's table.
 

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JUMBO PALACE said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
JUMBO PALACE said:
Remember kids, stealing is wrong!
FYI copying a copy of a copies copy is not stealing.
The bottom line is, if you pirate something, you got someone's product for free. That's called stealing.
And if you borrow someone's purchased copy of a movie/music/game, that's *also* stealing, by this logic, because they don't actually own any of those things, they merely licence them for use.

In Reality, where we all live, piracy is copyright infringement, and borrowing someone's purchased copy of a movie/music/game is a contract violation.


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Continuity said:
its bad news for PC gaming every time something like this happens.

Makes me sad :'(

Of course it won't kill PC gaming but it will, and is, changing the face of gaming on the PC. We're seeing the fallout from this already... where are the PC exclusives that push the boundaries of the hardware? (like the first crysis)... Dead and gone.
Now all we have on the PC (with a few notable exceptions) are the lukewarm scraps from the console's table.
Yes, Notch is crying into his ENORMOUS MANSION MADE ENTIRELY OF MONEY. You want proof that PC gaming is alive and kicking? Minecraft. You know why Minecraft is doing better than most commercial releases? Because Notch isn't an asshole, and has released a product that people WANT to buy, at a price they want to pay.

And yet, despite the existence of a Minecraft crack, despite the incredible ease of producing one, Notch isn't on his blog BEGGING people not to crack his game. He's spending his time doing productive things, like fixing issues with the game.

Of course, it helps that he doesn't have a game studio filled with dozens of redundant management positions and three-letters making seven-figures. Otherwise, he might have to charge $50.
 

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ZippyDSMlee said:
KEM10 said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
JUMBO PALACE said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
JUMBO PALACE said:
Remember kids, stealing is wrong!
FYI copying a copy of a copies copy is not stealing.
The bottom line is, if you pirate something, you got someone's product for free. That's called stealing.
No thats called copy right infringement when is barely enforceable as is since it boiuls down to ""There, I went and stole your words, too. Now you no longer have those words because I have stolen them from you. If I had infringed the copyright of your words you'd still have them, I'd just be benefiting from them as well, but because I stole them you can no longer have them."".

IP creators do not have a right to make money off every copy(even still we pay some via levies on blank media and tapes), they do have a right to make an exclusive profit but they have to sell it first and before that you have to gain the recognition of the masses of which piracy has little if any real world effect since most people buy from the legal chain. Stop comparing apples and oranges its diluting the debate/argument.
Copyright infringement is a form of theft. The term theft also covers such actions as larceny, embezzlement, robbery, and burglary. It is a blanket definition that people use and in court you would be cited for the specific crime, but it is all theft.
There are 2 practical levels of copy right infringement commercial and non commercial guess which is not only easier to prosecute but also easier to enforce?
I said nothing about enforcement, and neither did you until now. You were trying to say that copyright infringement is not theft when it clearly is (those of you new to this argument look at previous quote before you spam my inbox). Just because I can do something and get away with it doesn't make it any more right.
 

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KEM10 said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
KEM10 said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
JUMBO PALACE said:
ZippyDSMlee said:
JUMBO PALACE said:
Remember kids, stealing is wrong!
FYI copying a copy of a copies copy is not stealing.
The bottom line is, if you pirate something, you got someone's product for free. That's called stealing.
No thats called copy right infringement when is barely enforceable as is since it boiuls down to ""There, I went and stole your words, too. Now you no longer have those words because I have stolen them from you. If I had infringed the copyright of your words you'd still have them, I'd just be benefiting from them as well, but because I stole them you can no longer have them."".

IP creators do not have a right to make money off every copy(even still we pay some via levies on blank media and tapes), they do have a right to make an exclusive profit but they have to sell it first and before that you have to gain the recognition of the masses of which piracy has little if any real world effect since most people buy from the legal chain. Stop comparing apples and oranges its diluting the debate/argument.
Copyright infringement is a form of theft. The term theft also covers such actions as larceny, embezzlement, robbery, and burglary. It is a blanket definition that people use and in court you would be cited for the specific crime, but it is all theft.
There are 2 practical levels of copy right infringement commercial and non commercial guess which is not only easier to prosecute but also easier to enforce?
I said nothing about enforcement, and neither did you until now. You were trying to say that copyright infringement is not theft when it clearly is (those of you new to this argument look at previous quote before you spam my inbox). Just because I can do something and get away with it doesn't make it any more right.
Its as much theft as stealing physical garbage, you can only steal a limited physical object like a car or a chair, practically/functionally speaking you can steal a serial or key to a game or program but even then abused keys get blacklisted rather quickly.

Alot of things are illegal but so stupid it can not be reasonably enforced, like listening to the radio and driving.

Current IP law means you have no control or ownership of stuff you buy, you may not back it up you may not transcode it you may only rebuy it, sorry but they have crossed the line and IP is becoming the new civil rights movement not just for consumers but the IP creators who are pillaged by IP owner conglomerates.
 

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Are you kidding me?!
If the size of the first one is anything to go by then it would be better to just buy the disk and save my bandwith! Would probably take me a month to DL the thing in the anycase...
 

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I'd be a lot more willing to listen to assorted developer pleas if they simultaneously announced they will be dropping network activation entirely, and will be providing legit customers the same or better product as pirates get.
 

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Logan Westbrook said:
Crysis 2 Dev Urges Fans Not to Pirate the Game

Crytek says is it "disappointed" that Crysis 2 [http://www.amazon.com/Crysis-2-Pc/dp/B002BS47YE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1297687787&sr=8-2] found its way online.

With less than two months to go before its official release, a nearly complete build of the sci-fi shooter, Crysis 2, found its way onto the internet [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107720-Report-Crysis-2-Leaked], complete with the DRM keys needed to make it work. Obviously, this news hasn't gone down well at developer Crytek, and the studio is asking people not to download the leaked version.

Writing on the official Crysis 2 site [http://www.ea.com/crysis-2/blog/crysis-leak], Crytek said that it and publisher EA were deeply disappointed by the news of the leak. It encouraged fans to support both the game, and the people who made it, by purchasing the completed version when it came out in March. It also said that piracy continued to threaten PC gaming - specifically the packaged goods market - and the PC development community. These comments sparked off the inevitable debate about the effects of piracy, with some people getting the idea into their heads that Crytek was blaming PC gamers for the leak.

The leak is bad news for Crytek, although it's not as bad as it could have been had Crysis 2 been a PC exclusive like its predecessor. It seems unlikely that Crytek's pleas will be that effective in curtailing further downloads of the game, but hopefully, it will make at least a few people reconsider and wait for the official release instead.

Crysis 2 comes out for PC, PS3, and Xbox 360 on March 22nd.

Source: Edge [http://www.next-gen.biz/news/crytek-%E2%80%9Cdisappointed%E2%80%9D-by-crysis-2-leak]
How is it news that they're asking pirates "Please, pirates, please don't pirate our game"?

NEWS would be "Crysis 2 dev urges fans to pirate the game."

Just sayin' is all.
 

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I doubt people would be stupid enough to replace the leaked version with the actual game.

Would they???
[sub]I understand they could but come on![/sub]
 

MetalGenocide

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This looks more like advertising to me....
I didn't like the first one, not even going to waste my HDD space, by downloading the second.
 

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I really feel sorry for the guys at Crytek, the ones who are just ordinary people, putting their passion into their work, and then... shit like this happens.
 

Gazisultima

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Seems like stealing nearly finished builds of games before their release and posting them on the internet is as easy as stealing things in Fallout 3. How do they do it?
 

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The people who downloaded this game never had the intention of buying it. Maybe a small minority will download it and treat it like a demo, and will buy the real thing when it comes out, but that's a really small minority.

Pirates are pirates and not fans.
 

Sonicron

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I won't be buying the game at full price, but I will buy it. Pirating stuff is a no-no if you want to see the respective industry thrive.
 

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I'm going to give the console version of the game a go. Simply as I don't really play my PS3 enough now, never seem to have enough free time.
 

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Same old sentiment from the anti-piracy crowd, from some blow hard at destructoid:

"Grow up and recognize what you're doing. If you're not going to stop, at least have the balls to admit that you're helping to make the games industry a shittier place."

They don't care about piracy. It's self interest. They imagine a fairy tale world where there is no piracy and suddenly magic sweeps through the gaming industry and publishers and developers work in harmony. A new golden era of video games begins...

...except it's still a nasty, for-profit business run by whores who don't care about you. The same breed of businessmen who sell fear.

The water's not safe. Bottled water becomes a 50 billion dollar industry.
Fear of loneliness. You aren't happy. Love yourself. Self-help 10 billion dollar industry.
Fear of breast milk. Abbot Laboraties, maker of Similac- filthy god damn rich. And their stock chart shares peaks and valleys with the rate of breast cancer in the US, i might add.
Fear of germs. Hand sanitizer and disinfectant sprays for peace of mind and little else, as germs are literally everywhere. Billions more.
Energy drinks for fear of poor performance at work or in school. The billions are piling up.

The point is, billions are made on pure, grade-A, American bullshit... and no matter how much it is, for these criminal business assholes, it's never enough.

So how is this relevant to us?

Pirates are ruining video games. Fear of piracy... All they would do, in fairy tale land where they stamped out piracy once and for all, is just take further advantage of you without any appreciable improvement of their product.

It's all bullshit folks, and it's bad for ya.

RIP George Carlin.
 

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And thusforth, I made a post about how pirating is bad and how chastising them will stop them! Just like in Dora the Explorer!

No, really. Yeah, pirating is bad, but we don't need essays on it.