I'm not interested in an unfinished leaked version of the game. Besides, they said they will release the demo for PC so I'll just wait for that to see if my PC will be able to run it decently.
Crysis 2 Dev Urges Fans Not to Pirate the Game
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I'm probably out of touch on this issue (my PC couldn't even handle Crysis 1, let alone Crysis 2. Hell, MS Word gives it a run for its money), but why did they say that? Did their PC consumer base piss them off somehow, or did they just want a slice of the console market on future releases anyway?Pinky09 said:
Also (and I ask this in genuine curiosity, having no platform allegiances other than the ones forced on me by the shittiness of my PC), if they never release another PC exclusive game...does it really matter? I mean, so long as they still release PC games?
'Please don't pirate our game', say Crytek.
I'd hardly imagined them condoning people illegally downloading it. That wouldn't be good business practice at all!
I'd hardly imagined them condoning people illegally downloading it. That wouldn't be good business practice at all!
And my Axe!TeH PizZa Guy said:
OT: I had a look at some guy's playthrough of the leaked game, not all of it (I didn't want to much spoilers) But enough to see that the game looks pretty damn awesome, and I'm defiantly going to buy it.
And Crytek continues to demonstrate it's naivete. Not only are they surprised that their game got pirated, but now they are advertising that there is a free version.
I doubt there is one single being in this planet who would be willing to pirate Crysis but would stop because the devs asked him to.
I won't, even though I'm terrified at the prospect that I'll actually end up buying it new. PLEASE STOP ME
I won't, even though I'm terrified at the prospect that I'll actually end up buying it new. PLEASE STOP ME
No thats called copy right infringement when is barely enforceable as is since it boiuls down to ""There, I went and stole your words, too. Now you no longer have those words because I have stolen them from you. If I had infringed the copyright of your words you'd still have them, I'd just be benefiting from them as well, but because I stole them you can no longer have them."".JUMBO PALACE said:
IP creators do not have a right to make money off every copy(even still we pay some via levies on blank media and tapes), they do have a right to make an exclusive profit but they have to sell it first and before that you have to gain the recognition of the masses of which piracy has little if any real world effect since most people buy from the legal chain. Stop comparing apples and oranges its diluting the debate/argument.
Copyright infringement is a form of theft. The term theft also covers such actions as larceny, embezzlement, robbery, and burglary. It is a blanket definition that people use and in court you would be cited for the specific crime, but it is all theft.ZippyDSMlee said:
Oh ok if Crytek is asking i will abide.... wait.... they didnt say pretty please.... Time to download the game now HEHEHEHEHEHehhehe.....
No i havent downloaded a game in ages... and Crytek wouldnt be a first in ages...
But i do feel the pain and anger of the developers, to work in such a big project for so long and it getting leaked like this... i just think they didnt quite deserved this punishment
No i havent downloaded a game in ages... and Crytek wouldnt be a first in ages...
But i do feel the pain and anger of the developers, to work in such a big project for so long and it getting leaked like this... i just think they didnt quite deserved this punishment
I do and I don't sympathise with Crytek on this.
On one hand - I agree that this is a bad thing.
On the other - the company have basically said "hey, did you know there's an almost complete version of this game online right now? Don't download it though". By acknowledging its existence a hell of a lot of people who didn't know about it now probably have it installed.
On one hand - I agree that this is a bad thing.
On the other - the company have basically said "hey, did you know there's an almost complete version of this game online right now? Don't download it though". By acknowledging its existence a hell of a lot of people who didn't know about it now probably have it installed.
I'm not diluting anything. You wouldn't go into a store and steal a boxed copy of Crysis 2. Why should you be able to get a virtual copy for free?ZippyDSMlee said:
-"IP creators do not have a right to make money off ever copy"
This just boggles me. Crytek made the game, why do they not deserve to make a profit on each copy? I guess authors shouldn't be paid for each copy of their book either right?
I don't know where you get your sense off entitlement, but God bless. I wish I could justify all of my actions as easily as you do yours.
Dear EA and Crytek,
Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
And next time just shut up. It's a beta version anyway, you have nothing to worry about. At least save the whining for when the final version gets leaked, but even then, you are probably better off not advertising it.
Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
And next time just shut up. It's a beta version anyway, you have nothing to worry about. At least save the whining for when the final version gets leaked, but even then, you are probably better off not advertising it.
It's not stealing? Let's take a look.ZippyDSMlee said:
The part in bold sure makes downloading a pirate copy of a game sound like stealing to me, man.
I've seen this argument before, and I think we should clear a few things up about the legal status of piracy.
Under the Copyright Act (Title 17), what is actually occurring here is unlawful reproduction, covered under section 106 of the Act, not theft. Theft involves the unlawful taking of a chattel, ie, a physical good. For instance, if you break into a jewelry store and steal a necklace, not only are you depriving the owner of the sale of that good (as you are with unlawful reproduction), you are depriving them of that good itself.
Consider this - if you had a device that could make an atom for atom copy of any object and you went into a store and started making copies of things and leaving without paying, one wouldn't say that you are stealing - you're making an unlawful reproduction, as the actual item was never removed from the shelf.
To be sure, unlawful reproduction (which is exactly what you are doing if you either pirate or download a pirated copy) is illegal, and extremely heavy (excessive) fines can be levied if you do so, to the tune of one case where a woman was hit with a fine of several hundred thousand dollars (which was later reduced to around 20,000 if my memory serves me) for downloading approximately two dozen songs.
Although I think the fines imposed by infringement is excessive, as the only economic harm here is the loss of sale, you are still breaking the law if you pirate. Yes, there are questions of whether this is bad for the community, etc, but at the end of the day you are depriving the developer of only whatever the sale would have been had you purchased legally, no more no less. Yes, a lot of pirates wouldn't buy the game otherwise, but that frankly does not matter here - they unlawfully reproduced and caused an economic harm to the tune of $49.99 or whatever it cost.
So, do not call this stealing. This is not theft, this is unlawful reproduction, and they are not the same thing.
Under the Copyright Act (Title 17), what is actually occurring here is unlawful reproduction, covered under section 106 of the Act, not theft. Theft involves the unlawful taking of a chattel, ie, a physical good. For instance, if you break into a jewelry store and steal a necklace, not only are you depriving the owner of the sale of that good (as you are with unlawful reproduction), you are depriving them of that good itself.
Consider this - if you had a device that could make an atom for atom copy of any object and you went into a store and started making copies of things and leaving without paying, one wouldn't say that you are stealing - you're making an unlawful reproduction, as the actual item was never removed from the shelf.
To be sure, unlawful reproduction (which is exactly what you are doing if you either pirate or download a pirated copy) is illegal, and extremely heavy (excessive) fines can be levied if you do so, to the tune of one case where a woman was hit with a fine of several hundred thousand dollars (which was later reduced to around 20,000 if my memory serves me) for downloading approximately two dozen songs.
Although I think the fines imposed by infringement is excessive, as the only economic harm here is the loss of sale, you are still breaking the law if you pirate. Yes, there are questions of whether this is bad for the community, etc, but at the end of the day you are depriving the developer of only whatever the sale would have been had you purchased legally, no more no less. Yes, a lot of pirates wouldn't buy the game otherwise, but that frankly does not matter here - they unlawfully reproduced and caused an economic harm to the tune of $49.99 or whatever it cost.
So, do not call this stealing. This is not theft, this is unlawful reproduction, and they are not the same thing.
Listin to Crytek kids.
Don't be a giant gapping vagina and support an industry that suffers a lot because of piracy.
When you pirate, you make Gordon Freeman sad...
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Don't be a giant gapping vagina and support an industry that suffers a lot because of piracy.
When you pirate, you make Gordon Freeman sad...
I just proved that it is stealing. Maybe they don't call it that in court, but last time I checked, this isn't court. This is just regular people having a regular conversation, and "stealing" is a more than accurate term to describe what goes on.Liquidpaperx said:
Maybe I came off wrong - I am not arguing that pirating is legal or morally acceptable. I'm just trying to elevate our thinking a bit on the subject. Yes, all (most) of us know that piracy is bad, but I think its important that we know exactly what it is and why it is that way, rather than just hamfistedly saying "IT'S STEALING, IT'S AWFUL" and walking away.mjc0961 said:
Yes, stealing is accurate enough to get a general idea of what's going on here, but I think it's possible to pin it down even further with a little thought.