Crysis 2 Dev Urges Fans Not to Pirate the Game
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I dunno, the FBI calls theft of intellectual property stealing. I'm willing to be they might have one or two legal experts on staff.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/cyber/ipr/ipr
Sure, do an internet search and you'll find all sorts of self proclaimed experts weasle wording their way around IP theft. But as the saying goes, "Information might want to be free, but rent wants to be paid."
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/cyber/ipr/ipr
Sure, do an internet search and you'll find all sorts of self proclaimed experts weasle wording their way around IP theft. But as the saying goes, "Information might want to be free, but rent wants to be paid."
In response to this whole 'stealing' debate going on here. It is making illegal copies and not stealing. In that same way, when you make a knock off handbag, etc, you are done for copyright infringement and not stealing. And it is not that same as walking into a store and taking a boxed game (which is theft). How long are media producers going to keep that false analogy.
It may end up in the same result. You are playing a game you did not pay for. But since the way you got the game is different it is not treated the same. It is the same as the difference between stealing money and making copies of it through counterfeiting. You have money you did not earn, but the way you got it makes all the difference. I have never heard anyone accuse a money counterfeiter of stealing money. It is instead classed as fraud.
Media producers need to make better moral arguments than making it out to be something it isn't. It's a battle they aught to be able to win, as natural justice is on their side. But they are fighting it badly using completely the wrong tactics and are taking out more civilians / causing more collateral damage, than they are in taking out enemy combatants.
It may end up in the same result. You are playing a game you did not pay for. But since the way you got the game is different it is not treated the same. It is the same as the difference between stealing money and making copies of it through counterfeiting. You have money you did not earn, but the way you got it makes all the difference. I have never heard anyone accuse a money counterfeiter of stealing money. It is instead classed as fraud.
Media producers need to make better moral arguments than making it out to be something it isn't. It's a battle they aught to be able to win, as natural justice is on their side. But they are fighting it badly using completely the wrong tactics and are taking out more civilians / causing more collateral damage, than they are in taking out enemy combatants.
I've got to side with Crytek on this one. I mean I get that some people have excuses for pirating, but someone actually approached me today and told me they downloaded Crysis 2 "because they didn't feel like paying for it". I feel like Crytek should be getting their money, honestly. *Note* Before anyone asks, said person was a big fan of the first game and assured me he was going to get Crysis 2 even before the download was available.
Just waiting for the release. I'm not even sure if I could run the PC version, but my prospects are doubtful at best.
Crysis is still one of my favourite games, and while I have played the leaked version of 2, nothing is going to stop me buying it the day it comes out, I might set up a pre order now actually... I don't understand how a buggy pre-release leak can put people off of buying it, I mean how stupid do you have to be to think that is how the game is actually going to come out?
There are 2 practical levels of copy right infringement commercial and non commercial guess which is not only easier to prosecute but also easier to enforce?KEM10 said:
Incorrect, a right is a default privilege that can not be easily mitigated by law, a privilege like driving can be even to the point you are forced to have insurance and the ability to drive in order to legally drive.JUMBO PALACE said:
So looking at it like that they can not have a right to each copy or hearing/seeing of the IP, you do know in the UK they have a special wing of tax revenuers that go out and hit up people who are playing music to loud or in any kinda of public or office setting and this is legal.
While I do not mind the thought of media revenuers our current copy right system dose everything it can to not limit the power IP owners have on their IP. frankly I do not mind taxing digtial devices and ISP services 10% as long as either copyright lasts 10 years before it falls to public domain or they can keep their practicably unlimited copyright trems but the public is able to gain something for the trade off IE non profit attempting distribution.
Remember why was copyright made one to grant the IP owner a short period of time to gain a profit off it and to allow copyrighted items fall to public domain so the public is raised up by all the free information. We are getting alot of one thing and alot less of the other due to copy right being destroyed by IP owners bribing public officials.
Just want to get a feel for the Escapist's opinion on this. What do you people think of downloading the game, but still buying it when it comes out?
I'd love to see follow-up on this later.
I haven't seen reviews of the leaked game, but if it's actually good, I can see this helping them blow past their normal sales estimates by a fairly wide margin. If people are going to pirate it and never buy it now, they were probably planning to pirate it and never buy it when it came out, so no real difference there. On the other hand, some of those people might get a look at this build and decide to buy the full build once it comes out, when they would otherwise have had no reason to do so (if they just downloaded the full build in the first place). Add to that the effect this could have on word-of-mouth advertising assuming the game is actually good and this could be really, really great for revenue. This is all conjecture of course, which is why it'd be awesome if they used this as an opportunity to actually see what happens.
At the very least, it'd be nice to see someone actually wait a while and run the numbers before running to condemn potential customers when things like this happen.
I haven't seen reviews of the leaked game, but if it's actually good, I can see this helping them blow past their normal sales estimates by a fairly wide margin. If people are going to pirate it and never buy it now, they were probably planning to pirate it and never buy it when it came out, so no real difference there. On the other hand, some of those people might get a look at this build and decide to buy the full build once it comes out, when they would otherwise have had no reason to do so (if they just downloaded the full build in the first place). Add to that the effect this could have on word-of-mouth advertising assuming the game is actually good and this could be really, really great for revenue. This is all conjecture of course, which is why it'd be awesome if they used this as an opportunity to actually see what happens.
At the very least, it'd be nice to see someone actually wait a while and run the numbers before running to condemn potential customers when things like this happen.
Now they are going to blame bad sales on piracy no matter what the actual cause is.
I'm not even slightly interested in Crysis 2. Crysis 1 was a very mediocre shooter, why should this be any different?
I'm not even slightly interested in Crysis 2. Crysis 1 was a very mediocre shooter, why should this be any different?
I think they said there is going be a PC multiplayer demo.Karlosdj86 said:
duchaked said:
Heh... Of course, you could put money on the 360 version hitting TPB before launch day.
Gordon Freeman shows emotion?Death_Korps_Kommissar said:Listin to Crytek kids.
Don't be a giant gapping vagina and support an industry that suffers a lot because of piracy.
When you pirate, you make Gordon Freeman sad...
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