DC Comics Reboots Lobo's Reboot

[Shoggoth2588]

I think we can all agree that Liefeld royally screwed the pooch when he had written for Lobo in Deathstroke...what was it, 9 through 16? Liefeld also royally screwed up Deathstroke but DC isn't rebooting him. Oh crap...they're not also rebooting Deathstroke are they?! Maybe DC is planning a sort of Clone Saga of their own...I mean, a Clone Saga about Lobo could be something decent...it's a decade or two late yeah but...*sigh*...I haven't bought a new 52 in well over a year and DC isn't really showing that they want my money. Maybe in another 20 years they'll start making books that I want again.

 

[WanderingFool]

Not to be a downer or anything...but that looks like pretty much exactly the opposite of what DC fans were hoping for.

Thats not being a downer, thats being truthful. This new Lobo would be broken in half by the Real Lobo backhanding him...

 

[CriticalMiss]

So I guess the REAL Lobo sits in his bedroom with the lights off, writing space poetry and brooding about why noone likes him. What a badass. He probably sparkles in sunlight too.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Well, I'm not exactly well-versed in comics (esp not DC comics), but if I'm reading this right it looks like DC went:
"Gut everything but the name, replace with DARKER STUFF because DARK is COOL."

 

[ASan83]

Sounds asinine, but doesn't surprise me, really. DC has been reboot happy for 30 years since the original Crisis. That's part of the reason I never got into them as much as Marvel. You never knew when that reboot for the hell of it was coming.

 

[ninjaRiv]

I've got it figured out.

Lobo was originally a parody of the gritty characters of the 90s, especially Wolverine. But everyone's a moody, brooding wimp know (especially Wolverine) so, he's dated. In comes wimpy looking broody mopey Lobo. He is a parody again! The joke he was always meant to be! But, of course, classic Lobo will win whatever fight goes down between these two because, come one, it's Lobo.

 

[major_chaos]

Oh new 52, you never stop finding new and interesting ways to disappoint me.

 

[lord canti]

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure that the animated starfire was nothing like the actual starfire even before the reboot.

 

[Cybylt]

As someone already pointed out, ALL of these are turned down concepts. The only part accepted was a more sci-fi looking armor for him.

Also worth noting that the original New 52 Lobo is a Rob Liefeld made grey-scale Wolverine.

 

[Sixcess]

Lobo hasn't been interesting since early LEGION anyway.

He first showed up in a couple of issues of some long forgotten series - can't recall the name, can't be bothered googling it, but I do recall he wore a hideous orange one piece suit. Then he was brought back for LEGION and, for a brief moment, he was actually interesting.

Then he got a spin-off series, drawn by artist-of-the-moment Simon Bisley - and THAT was when he turned into the over muscled one note parody.

I'm honestly quite surprised that so many people care. He was a terrible one dimensional character - a supposed alien whose every distinctive characteristic was a straight lift from 20th century Earth - the biker look, the cigars, the fucking dog... And for a while in the 90s he was so over-exposed he was the DC Wolverine.

The new one looks bland, certainly, but the New 52 seems to have been one long exercise in making everyone as uninteresting as possible so no surprise there. I just think he was tiresomely overrated to begin with.

 

[Deathfish15]

Popped in just to say: The new "Batman" reboots were complete and utter crap! They were basically a modern, muddy movie about current tech and state of mind with terrorists, gangsters, and vigilantes. That 'Dark Night' could very well be mistaken for Big Daddy from the Kickass series. The original Batman -the classical one- was about over-the-top criminals with mental issues that did over-the-top things (not just murder with a card on it, aka Joker). Jim Carry was a great Batman villain because of his over-the-top craziness and the way he was portrayed as The Riddler (same with Tommy Lee Jones playing Two Face).

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

THis is stupid.

but then, DC is run by morons now

 

[Frankster]

*laughs hysterically*

Oh poor Lobo what have they done with you? "The main man" this is not.

Also poor starfire, i know her teen titans appearance was physically different to comics one, but at least both designs had a jovial personality, don't see why she had to be dipped in emo sauce too.

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

HEY!! Don't knock Morbius he was cool a shame the whole dark line of marvel comics came to a crappy end and half of them would up in Doc Strange's vault. >>

I wouldn't knock ol' Michael, but the new Lobo design looks a LOT more like Morbius than it does the main man, at least to my eyes.

 

[Alar]

Please... please don't make Lobo a skinny pretty-boy. He's a buff, macho, raunchy biker dude. He is not any of that. Give him back his beard and his hog at the very least if you're going to sissify him like that!

Wait a minute...

If you're familiar with Lobo's personality, you might be understandably confused. If you're not familiar, know that "high society" and "moral codes" have never been Lobo's defining traits. According to Harras, however, this will be Lobo's official modus operandi, since the previous character was simply an alien that stole his respected name. DC will debut the new New 52 Lobo in Justice League #23.2, as he hunts his identity thief to prove once and for all who the "real" Lobo is.

...what? WHAT? This is the 'real' Lobo? Then what happened to the other one?! WE WANT COMICS ABOUT THE OTHER ONE, NOT THIS GUY!

Ugh... at least the first 'pretty boy' version they drew had spines on his arms, gnarly hands, and a somewhat more unkempt, hazardous appearance.

 

[RA92]

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure that the animated starfire was nothing like the actual starfire even before the reboot.

To be fair Starfire in the comics has always been a busty alien chick.

There's a huge difference between the original sexually liberated Starfire and the new wish-fulfillment sex object.

I would urge you to give this a read this for a more expanded commentary: http://comicsalliance.com/starfire-catwoman-sex-superheroine/

 

[MrGalactus]

OOOOR they could just develop the character and have him abandon his slaving ways. Sounds like a pretty interesting story arc, actually.
Why does DC have to solve every problem with a nuke these days?

 

[JediMB]

... still not as bad as what they did to Starfire.

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Actually it was the animated Teen Titans that deviated from the original Starfire.

Eh, both Teen Titans and New 52 deviated from the original, as far as I'm aware. New 52 by taking away her hippie-esque personality and replacing it with emotionless sexual availability, whereas Teen Titans did it by turning her into a younger and more relatable character.

But my post, unlike perhaps Raiyan's, mostly referred to how the current incarnations of both Starfire and Lobo display a deviation from the norm for the latter, but more or less a strict adherence to the norm for the former. NewLobo seems to be more of a sexualized pretty-boy than most male characters, whereas Starfire's sexualization doesn't make her particularly stand out from the rest of the industry's female characters.

So for female characters, it's Tuesday.

 

[MrGalactus]

... still not as bad as what they did to Starfire.

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Actually it was the animated Teen Titans that deviated from the original Starfire.

Eh, both Teen Titans and New 52 deviated from the original, as far as I'm aware. New 52 by taking away her hippie-esque personality and replacing it with emotionless sexual availability, whereas Teen Titans did it by turning her into a younger and more relatable character.

Mmmmm, nah, she's always been an emotionally detached psycho. She likes to use her powers to kill people she hates in ways as brutal as possible. It's her thing, so they really haven't changed her at all. Being a murderous vigilante means she fits into Red Hood and the Outlaws pretty perfectly without changing her much.

 

[Vausch]

So since the reboot:

Batman's timeline has been skewed to the point where he couldn't possibly have had all the Robins he's taken in

The former Teen Titan teams were erased from existence

Captain Marvel has become Shazam and Billy Batson went from being a pinnacle of innocence and good natured childhood to a bratty little twat

Blue Beetle got gorey and threw out light hearted fun and the unique plans of the Reach from being slowly conquering invaders to "Big armies wreck sh*t up"

Starfire went from an emotion based superpowered badass in a skimpy outfit to a nymphomaniac

Stephanie Brown was erased from existence and banned from being used

Artemis was introduced in Teen Titans and killed in the same issue

Everyone wears armour (Seriously, why?)

Wally West is no longer there

Rob Liefeld was put on 4 (or more) books

And now Lobo looks like he's gone emo and skinny.

IS this the Dark Age all over again?