Demon's Souls

Firia

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Yahtzee Croshaw said:
Extra Punctuation: Demon's Souls

I get Demon's Souls

WAA WAA IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HARD YOU SUCK AT GAMES EVERYONE STOP WATCHING THESE VIDEOS AND ACKNOWLEDGE MY OBVIOUS SUPERIORITY WAA.
From what I gathered watching your take on Demon's Souls, you didn't get it. You got trounced because you weren't very good at watching your environment, and learning from what would have been very obvious mistakes.

Did you know you can run with your shield up? May have survived those archers you mentioned. Did you know that if you're equipped with a lighter load, you dodge surprisingly better? When the tutorial baddie cut into you when your dodge sucked, the lesson you should have learned was, "blocking is more ideal for me, and tot dodge only if I'm further away." Instead, you blame the game. Did you know that you can see the dragon well before you run out across a bridge littered with charred corpses? You need only be more aware of your surroundings.

There are no upward falling apples here. The "tricks" don't just spring up. There is no forgiveness for not being aware, and possessing forethought.
 

Twinmill5000

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I hear you man.

...The fact that there wasn't many savepoints in Star Ocean ruined it for me... Oh don't get me wrong the gameplay's fun and usually I didn't have to worry about dying with the infinite resurrections and all so long as the healer didn't die-- but just the frustration of knowing once I play I can't turn the game off for a couple hours eventually turned the game into work.

Maybe some "hardcore" gamers disagree, but consequence should not be part of the challenge in gaming... We all fuck up, and we all sometimes want to try new and dangerous things... without the worry of losing everything that dropped off of every monster in the past thirty minutes.
 

Casual Shinji

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robrob said:
Maybe you have so much free time that if a game doesn't pointlessly occupy an extra 90 hours of your life it's of no interest to you. That's not really most of us.
I died a lot during this game, but it's still the shorttest RPG I've ever played, I finnished it in about 30 to 40 hours. The only real fault with this game is that it doesn't explain enough from the start. There are a lot of loop holes to make it easier than it seems. Like, if you die as a guest in someone else's world you don't lose any souls. It's a good way to rank up souls and explore the enviroment without the fear of losing your shit.
 

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Simriel said:
its called an opinion. He is allowed his just as you are yours. Though technically his is worth more as he is payed for his.
So what? If you put your stuff out in public for people to see and read, then you get to have it criticized too. You do not get to cry foul and hide behind the "it's just an opinion" defense. Also, since when has being paid for anything grant you the "immunity to criticism" power? Sorry, but if you stick your head out and say something I do not like, you do not get to say "it is just my opinion" and it make it go away.

Quit trying to defend him because he does not need it. He is perfectly capable of doing that himself. Look at his video on viewer feedback from his SSBB review if you do not believe me.
 

Simriel

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malestrithe said:
Simriel said:
its called an opinion. He is allowed his just as you are yours. Though technically his is worth more as he is payed for his.
So what? If you put your stuff out in public for people to see and read, then you get to have it criticized too. You do not get to cry foul and hide behind the "it's just an opinion" defense. Also, since when has being paid for anything grant you the "immunity to criticism" power? Sorry, but if you stick your head out and say something I do not like, you do not get to say "it is just my opinion" and it make it go away.

Quit trying to defend him because he does not need it. He is perfectly capable of doing that himself. Look at his video on viewer feedback from his SSBB review if you do not believe me.
I am not defending him, I am just fed up with reading comments of the 'NOOOO YOU ARE WRONG!!! PLZLOVETHWGAMEAHLOVESOAHFEELBETTAH! variety. Yahtzee can obviously handle people disagreeing with him. Can you? (the answer is no, because both the original comment and this reply where utterly unable to handle being disagreed with)
 

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http://www.pakin.org/complaint/
I'll just leave this here...

example (which I found surprisingly fitting):
I am writing this letter rather reluctantly. I do not wish to begin an incendiary debate about Atty. Michael Atkinson's screeds. However, Atty. Atkinson has recently made a few statements that I find disturbing to such a degree that I cannot remain silent. Before I begin, let me point out that nothing unites people like a common enemy. That's why I would encourage everybody to take some shots of their own at Atty. Atkinson by reprimanding him for destroying our moral fiber.

It's my hunch that Atty. Atkinson is capable of only two things, namely whining and underhanded tricks. Forgive me for boring you with all the gory details, but it's really not bloody-mindedness that compels me to supply the missing ingredient that could stop the worldwide slide into racialism. It's my sense of responsibility to you, the reader. True, Atty. Atkinson's hariolations are a mixture of harebrained self-righteousness and childish duplicity, but we should not concern ourselves with Atty. Atkinson's putative virtue or vice. Rather, we should concern ourselves with our own welfare and with the fact that Atty. Atkinson is typical of stolid, raving derelicts in his wild invocations to the irrational, the magic, and the fantastic to dramatize his witticisms. I don't know if it's stupidity, ignorance, or naïveté that makes him aver that the rules don't apply to him. What I do know, however, is that as our society continues to unravel, more and more people will be grasping for straws, grasping for something to hold onto, grasping for something that promises to give them the sense of security and certainty that they so desperately need. These are the types of people Atty. Atkinson preys upon.

All the same, sometime in the future Atty. Atkinson will scupper my initiative to acknowledge that the notion that his brinkmanship and tin-rattling is aimed at prodding the government into sanctioning his attempts to contaminate clear thinking with his antisocial, overweening squibs is pervasive. Fortunately, that hasn't happened...yet. But it will indubitably happen if we don't respond to Atty. Atkinson's ploys. In short, Atty. Michael Atkinson's shallow rantings have done much to pass off all sorts of unpatriotic and obviously disloyal stuff on others as a so-called "inner experience". I propose, therefore, that we respond by doing what we can to test the assumptions that underlie Atty. Atkinson's obiter dicta.
 
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LordWalter said:
Yahtzee Croshaw said:
Extra Punctuation: Demon's Souls

The problem with Demon's Souls isn't that it's hard, but that it purposefully wastes player's time.

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ahaha, I am, in fact, quite proud of my letter:

Subject: Legal Question on Acquiring Public-Affairs Permit

Greetings Mr. Atkinson,

I was wondering what the legal process would be for reserving a large area on public property in order to hold a community event. This year, the C.F.L.D.C will be hosting a rousing book-burning on the lawn of city hall. Coincidentally we will also be going through several works of world literature and drawing giant black Xes on anything that might make someone feel uncomfortable. We will then proceed to censor all other great works of cinema and video gaming and make sure that all incidences of violence, sex, or creativity are replaced by unicorns and rainbows. After all, how would children know about violence if we never TELL them? This is why times in the past pre-videogaming were so idyllic (Ah, to live again in the halcyon days of the dark ages, world wars, and near-nuclear annihilation!) This has clearly been shown to drastically reduce all manner of violent crime and deviant behavior in society (please ignore all those fancy "Scientists" and "Statisticians" in their ivory towers whose libertine "Scientific Methods" of study have found no such link whatsoever and claimed the media is merely scapegoating as a way of avoiding any analysis of serious sociological issues.) I applaud your continued resistance against public opinion and the concept of free speech. It is good to see that someone at least cares about the messages we pass on to our children

Sincerely,

- Walter A. Silveira
Chairman of the C.F.L.D.C (Censorship and Fascist Luddite Douchebags Committee)

P.S. Don't you just LOVE the game Yahtzee?
You win.

The email I sent was explaining that he shouldn't blame games for everything, gives the public schools a little credit in destroying innocence.
 

Mertruve

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Several journals from around the world (The Harvard Medical School Center for Medical Health, The Journal of Adolescent Health, and The British Medical Journal) have shown no conclusive link between video game usage and violent activity.
Hey, a link was found!

 

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To the people who keep saying that a game being overly hard is an incentive to work to get better at it, you seem to be forgetting something. IT'S A GAME!!!! If you have so much time on your hands that you work at playing games that makes you a loser at life.
 

Anarex

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My problem with this review is that now, Yahtzee just seems like a jerk who will never be pleased. If you go back to the Bioshock review you will see that he was upset with the instant respawn chambers. He clearly thinks that you need to space out your check points further than that to make a good challenging game. He has also complained about the lack of difficulty in a number of reviews. But, if you put check points 30 minutes apart the entire game becomes crap?

So, unless a game puts its check points at the exact spot where Yahtzee feels challenged, but not overly frustrated, then the game gets a negative review? That is a bit much even for Yahtzee. You just come off looking like an inconsistent whiner now. It is a real shame too. I view Yahtzee as a positive force in the game industry. Helping to make games for gamers again. After this review I think he took a step backwards. I don't understand how Yahtzee can have such disdain for casual gamers but claim that Demon's Souls was unplayable.

I am not angry at Yahtzee for not liking the game or for not beating the game. I am just well, disappointed. Go back to his review on Explosion Man. There is a part where is gets upset at the game offering to allow him to skip a level and he responds "You will not beat me." That was the gamer I thought Yahtzee was. The gamer that rises to a challenge and gets a great sense of accomplishment from beating that challenge. He is just not the person I thought he was and thats a little disheartening.
 

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Disaster Button said:
And now I get to email Michael Atkinson the entire Offended page from Encyclopedia Dramatica, good times.
Well done. I can't see him being able to make it through, though, despite it's alleged health benefits.

It's true, though, the controller comment. My parents stop playing video games after the N64 and their hands have trouble with anything after that system(despite the N64 controller being one big pile of twisted).

Hell, sometimes my father has to look at the remote control.
 

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I enjoyed the article, and completely agree with the points about how far away the checkpoints are. I also sent Atkinson an eloquently written and rather polite email asking him to extract whatever large object is obstructing his rectal passage.
 

Eruanno

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...I can send mail to Michael Atkinson?! OH. MY. GOD. This will be AWESOME!
I do wonder if he's technologically savvy enough to actually check his mail, though...
 

Hondor64

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I already emailed him. A good informative email with references and everything. just wish i had saved it.

remember boys and girls. be polite, or sarcastic. not rude
 

WrcklessIntent

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Anarex said:
My problem with this review is that now, Yahtzee just seems like a jerk who will never be pleased. If you go back to the Bioshock review you will see that he was upset with the instant respawn chambers. He clearly thinks that you need to space out your check points out further than that to make a good challenging game. He has also complained about the lack of difficulty in a number of reviews. But, if you put check points 30 minutes apart the entire game becomes crap?

So, unless a game puts its check points at the exact spot where Yahtzee feels challenged, but not overly frustrated, then the game gets a negative review? That is a bit much even for Yahtzee. You just come off looking like an inconsistent whiner now. It is a real shame too. I view Yahtzee as a positive force in the game industry. Helping to make games for gamers again. After this review I think he took a step backwards. I don't understand how Yahtzee can have such disdain for casual gamers but claim that Demon's Souls was unplayable.

I am not angry at Yahtzee for not liking the game or for not beating the game. I am just well, disappointed. Go back to his review on Explosion Man. There is a part where is gets upset at the game offering to allow him to skip a level and he responds "You will not beat me." That was the gamer I thought Yahtzee was. The gamer that rises to a challenge and gets a great sense of accomplishment from beating that challenge. He is just not the person I thought he was and thats a little disheartening.
He's not complaining about the game he just wishes that there was a better dificulty system in which players can chose more percisly there skill level. And in Bioshocks case they changed that with later DLC where you can turn of vita chambers completly so people can play more set to there skill level
 

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Do you guys realise that yahtzee has just posted Michael atkinsons email address and that at least a million people will read it. Lets spam the shit out of him.
LordWalter said:
Yahtzee Croshaw said:
Extra Punctuation: Demon's Souls

The problem with Demon's Souls isn't that it's hard, but that it purposefully wastes player's time.

Read Full Article
ahaha, I am, in fact, quite proud of my letter:

Subject: Legal Question on Acquiring Public-Affairs Permit

Greetings Mr. Atkinson,

I was wondering what the legal process would be for reserving a large area on public property in order to hold a community event. This year, the C.F.L.D.C will be hosting a rousing book-burning on the lawn of city hall. Coincidentally we will also be going through several works of world literature and drawing giant black Xes on anything that might make someone feel uncomfortable. We will then proceed to censor all other great works of cinema and video gaming and make sure that all incidences of violence, sex, or creativity are replaced by unicorns and rainbows. After all, how would children know about violence if we never TELL them? This is why times in the past pre-videogaming were so idyllic (Ah, to live again in the halcyon days of the dark ages, world wars, and near-nuclear annihilation!) This has clearly been shown to drastically reduce all manner of violent crime and deviant behavior in society (please ignore all those fancy "Scientists" and "Statisticians" in their ivory towers whose libertine "Scientific Methods" of study have found no such link whatsoever and claimed the media is merely scapegoating as a way of avoiding any analysis of serious sociological issues.) I applaud your continued resistance against public opinion and the concept of free speech. It is good to see that someone at least cares about the messages we pass on to our children

Sincerely,

- Walter A. Silveira
Chairman of the C.F.L.D.C (Censorship and Fascist Luddite Douchebags Committee)

P.S. Don't you just LOVE the game Yahtzee?
Mine isn't quite has clever has that:

Dear Mr Atkinson

FUCK YOU.