Yes... Yes it does... I know not one english major, english teacher, librarion, or respected literature critic that actually like Twilight...
Did Twilight really suck that much?
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The reviews I've seen suggest that people hate it because like early Disney Princesses & all Barbie Movies, this movie will have a negative influence on impressionable teen girls.
*Keep your standards sky-high. Hold out for perfection.
*It's totally okay if the guy makes all the decisions in a relationship.
*It's not creepy if a guy watches you when you sleep or follows you.
*It's perfectly healthy to be obsessed with someone & have 0 other interests.
*A girl should always be meek & dependent & have a strong man in her life.
*It's totally reasonable to abandon your family for a guy your hardly know.
The other thing people hated is that Bella is an Anti Sue, which regardless of being the polar opposite of Mary Sue is still a type of Mary Sue, & nobody likes Mary Sues.
*Keep your standards sky-high. Hold out for perfection.
*It's totally okay if the guy makes all the decisions in a relationship.
*It's not creepy if a guy watches you when you sleep or follows you.
*It's perfectly healthy to be obsessed with someone & have 0 other interests.
*A girl should always be meek & dependent & have a strong man in her life.
*It's totally reasonable to abandon your family for a guy your hardly know.
The other thing people hated is that Bella is an Anti Sue, which regardless of being the polar opposite of Mary Sue is still a type of Mary Sue, & nobody likes Mary Sues.
Why do I hate Twilight?, because Twilight has single-handedly reversed 200 years of vampire culture. I hate twilight because I remember a time when people would people would think of a vampire and get scared, instead of aroused. I remember a time when women were encouraged to actually get a job in their life and earn some money, instead of getting married to overprotective wet-blankets right after highschool
What? So I'm not allowed to hate Twilight for being a badly written and confused mess without being accused of jumping on a bandwagon?spartan231490 said:
It's simply not good literature and it made even poorer cinema. Of course you're going to disagree but at least take a moment to see that it's possible to hate something for other reasons than the fact that lots of other people hate it.
As my friend told me when I teased her for reading Twilight, it's "brain candy". She knows it's badly written, the characterisation is terrible, the plot is rubbish, and all of the usual crap, but somehow the books are worth reading besides all of that. I'm not going to comment on the movies, though.
I hate bashing things that I haven't experienced, so thanks to my friends, I've worked my way through the first, second and fourth books, and the first and third movies. And, speaking from personal experience, yes, Twilight does suck. Horribly. But it also feels good, somehow. It's like emotional porn. Except for the second book, which was full of far too much emo whinging.
For those who hated the books because Bella's so damn weak and vulnerable, at least in the fourth book
I suppose whether Twilight really is bad is a matter of taste and subjective, but it does pain me to see how much more successful it is than far better, more deserving books. But it doesn't quite deserve all the hatred some people show towards it - although some of the fans might.
I hate bashing things that I haven't experienced, so thanks to my friends, I've worked my way through the first, second and fourth books, and the first and third movies. And, speaking from personal experience, yes, Twilight does suck. Horribly. But it also feels good, somehow. It's like emotional porn. Except for the second book, which was full of far too much emo whinging.
For those who hated the books because Bella's so damn weak and vulnerable, at least in the fourth book
she finally becomes a vampire, stronger than all of the others (of course!), with unnatural self-control and possessing probably the most powerful abilities (she can nullify the special abilities of the other vampires). So, she's basically perfect. God damn it.
I suppose whether Twilight really is bad is a matter of taste and subjective, but it does pain me to see how much more successful it is than far better, more deserving books. But it doesn't quite deserve all the hatred some people show towards it - although some of the fans might.
Once apon a time, vampires were who they were. Vampires sucked the living to make thralls (vampire thralls, not love thralls). Now, however, there are way too many paranormal romances. There's even a zombie romance. Vampires are no longer seen as scary and evil.
It's just another popular hate topic. It's considered popular to hate it among "trendy teens" and young adults. Also popular to hate amongst preteens and younger children who have no idea what Twilight is and have no idea about the story or anything but hate it because their older siblings hate it or because they know that it is popular to hate and they want to seem like they are just as cool as older kids. Many popular things fall subject to what I will call pop hate. Some examples are: Justin Beiber Country Music Michael Jackson Miley Cyrus the current Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and so on and so forth. And a lot of people who pop hate these things actually are closet fans which explains how these things which are supposedly despised have millions of followers and make tons of money to fund more of their "crap". If Justin Beiber was really as bad as the internet made him out to be, then he would be a poor hobo in the streets living off of dumpster scraps getting repeatedly pelted with eggs.
I don't hate Twilight!
I love her!
And I don't see why people whine about her surname! She's still beautiful!
Just look at her! *trollface.jpg*
Okay, okay, in all seriousness, the REAL reason I fucking dispise Twilight it's because of the (WHAT THE FUCK)ever-growing fanbase it creates by simply being a lame movie. I mean, come ON! It's like they loved a bad movie because it was a cheesy mythological soap opera with masturbational material for troubled gothic girls.
I love her!
And I don't see why people whine about her surname! She's still beautiful!
Just look at her! *trollface.jpg*
Okay, okay, in all seriousness, the REAL reason I fucking dispise Twilight it's because of the (WHAT THE FUCK)ever-growing fanbase it creates by simply being a lame movie. I mean, come ON! It's like they loved a bad movie because it was a cheesy mythological soap opera with masturbational material for troubled gothic girls.
It doesn't really suck, it's just... bland! In fact it's not really good, but not even THAT bad(well, except for the sparkles) and it's just... Boring. And I must admit that i found the first book(ftr the only one i read, for a class actually) was terribly written.
It's bad, but not nearly as bad as the haters say it is. It's just a badly written series of books with little to no plot and ~2 interesting characters, neither of whom show up very often. Haven't seen the movies so I can't speak for them, but I doubt they're any different.
Personally I loved every single second of it! Yes everything about it is dodgy, but that doesnt matter because the romance between Bella and Edward is just so damn immersive.
Oh, not that batshit final boss non-fight with the Volturi. That was dumb. Also I am a heterosexual male. Not that you'll believe me.
Oh, not that batshit final boss non-fight with the Volturi. That was dumb. Also I am a heterosexual male. Not that you'll believe me.
1. I like my vampires as badasses, not little stalking wussies that sparkle like mobile diamonds.
2. I know this is a romance story that you can input yourself into, but I think a romance story is better when the girl has personality and reasons to love her. That's why I don't like shoujo manga that much. Or those harems. So far the only great Reverse harems are Ouran High School Host Club, and UtaPri, and Utapri I just like for the comedy and NicoNico comments. That's what I try to do for my romance stories.
3. The plot. I watched the movie with an open mind. It ended, and I was just thinking "Wait, where was the plot? What was the rising action? The climax? The falling action? You call that a denouement? Why am I referencing to literary terms?" It looked like there was some action, but if so there needed to be a more memorable antagonist. You want to know why I remember the names of so many Death Eaters from Harry Potter? BECAUSE THEY WERE PRETTY MEMORABLE.
4.I also have a problem that because this movie was hyped up so much, it undermined a much better vampire movie, Cirque Du Freak. Yeah, that movie sucked too. Yeah, it didn't follow the book so well. But I'll tell ya Whot. The vampires were much more badass and awesome. You become a vampire by stabbing your fucking fingers. Books 3-12 involve a huge war between two sectors of vampires and some happy-go-lucky guy whose name is Desmond Tiny, or Des Tiny, or Destiny (Did I just mindfuck you?). All this, and it only got about a week of advertisement outside of theaters.
5. The fanbase is just terrible. It's one thing to be a fangirl, or possibly a fanboy in this case. It's another thing to completely flame and troll others for not agreeing with you. Now you're just crossing YouTube comments territory.
2. I know this is a romance story that you can input yourself into, but I think a romance story is better when the girl has personality and reasons to love her. That's why I don't like shoujo manga that much. Or those harems. So far the only great Reverse harems are Ouran High School Host Club, and UtaPri, and Utapri I just like for the comedy and NicoNico comments. That's what I try to do for my romance stories.
3. The plot. I watched the movie with an open mind. It ended, and I was just thinking "Wait, where was the plot? What was the rising action? The climax? The falling action? You call that a denouement? Why am I referencing to literary terms?" It looked like there was some action, but if so there needed to be a more memorable antagonist. You want to know why I remember the names of so many Death Eaters from Harry Potter? BECAUSE THEY WERE PRETTY MEMORABLE.
4.I also have a problem that because this movie was hyped up so much, it undermined a much better vampire movie, Cirque Du Freak. Yeah, that movie sucked too. Yeah, it didn't follow the book so well. But I'll tell ya Whot. The vampires were much more badass and awesome. You become a vampire by stabbing your fucking fingers. Books 3-12 involve a huge war between two sectors of vampires and some happy-go-lucky guy whose name is Desmond Tiny, or Des Tiny, or Destiny (Did I just mindfuck you?). All this, and it only got about a week of advertisement outside of theaters.
5. The fanbase is just terrible. It's one thing to be a fangirl, or possibly a fanboy in this case. It's another thing to completely flame and troll others for not agreeing with you. Now you're just crossing YouTube comments territory.
you see i thought you said Endymion, man you would of had one pissed of Keats fan if i hadn't read that twice.
It was complete crap, it was set up for girls to put themselves into the role of the very under detailed girl and then drool over the over detailed men in the book.
I believe the Oatmeal described it better than I however
http://theoatmeal.com/story/twilight
I believe the Oatmeal described it better than I however
http://theoatmeal.com/story/twilight