If you're ignorant enough to think that the only reason people dislike the changes are his hair, this game was made for you.Kitsune Hunter said:Good review, defiently going to pick it up, but I wonder what the naysayers think, now that their hopes of the game being a flop have been dashed, will they accept it and give the game a try or continue to whine about dante not having white hair anymore
I wouldn't call anything he said a spoiler considering all of it is in the trailers. Any twists or reveals this game throws at you have been freely publicized by Capcom and Ninja Theory.s69-5 said:Spoilers should seriously be added to this I've included them on this reply if you don't know how.JokerboyJordan said:Dante's devil trigger is a glorified doppelganger, the angel/devil weapons act just like Nero did in DMC4, and most people disliked the emphasis on grapples.
Story-wise, the ending has no context.Vergil never hinted that he wants to be King of the world, nor was Dante hinted at to be having problems with his inner demon, suddenly being overpowered by said demon came out of no where.
We are given no closure on what will happen to humanity, or in hell now that Mundus has been deposed, or even any information on Sparda and where the hell he is. It all just ends.
The lack of exposition like:
The fact that has all the world's government's wrapped around his finger;Nice Job Breaking It Hero.that all of humanity has been brainwashed to hate Dante, Vergil, and Kat and the loss of Mundus causing a power vacuum in Hell, being brought up early in the game but never being mentioned again until Vergil's sudden Heel Face Turn, are never considered.
The plan to close the hell gate, bringing all the demons from Limbo into the real world.
I mean, giving out the ending, without spoiler tags, at this stage, is absolutely selfish.
I haven't yet played the game myself (thanks for spoiling the end BTW) but having played the demo, even I didn't need exposition to tell me that the world's gvt isbrainwashed to hate Dante. I mean c'mon - there are eyeball cameras that are looking for him specifically and his name appears in giant letters on buidings when caught... You don't ALWAYS need to have the storyteller holding your hand. A picture is worth 1000 words.
Agreed. Some people's kids...natster43 said:So apparently it is cool to post spoilers for games that just came out in the forums now. That's cool.
Easy. Give the franchise to a terrible gaming studio with a record of producing shitty titles. Honestly, I can't understand why they didn't just give it to Platinum Games. Anarchy Reigns and Bayonetta were incredibly fun to play.Adam Jensen said:Let's see. The story is terrible and feels like it's written by a single 12 year old. Don't get me wrong. DMC writing was always bad. But this is just embarrassing. They ruined Vergil, they ruined Dante, they butchered the back story of their parents, they removed combat styles from DMC 3 and DMC 4 and on top of that the game even looks uglier than DMC 4. Seriously, how does that happen? How can a 2013 game look worse than a game from 2008?
Actually, no. We're talking about Ninja Theory's writing. Ninja Theory developed this game, Capcom only published it.Archemetis said:Also, I'm sorry, but am I reading comments in regards to the writing being worse than the original games?
You people realise you're talking about Capcom's writing, right?
Well said.Sylveria said:ka-snip!
I want no more spoilers.Rocklobster99 said:The story being a ripoff of They LiveArchemetis said:Name some that don't relate to your personal preference.
The writing being so terrible that they made the main villain more sympathetic than the heroes
The dialogue
The combat
The hamfisted social commentary
360 noscope abortions
An ending that makes almost zero sense
CAPCOM didn't write or develop it, those are both on NT. Secondly, while the DMC series wasn't exactly Planescape Torment, it was self-aware enough to not take itself too seriously so you could laugh WITH it instead of AT it and the characters at least had some charm and were likable. This...this tries SO HARD to be taken seriously and FAILS at every turn. NT's version of Dante is like Travis Touchdown played straight and as such he comes off as a complete twat-racket.Archemetis said:Also, I'm sorry, but am I reading comments in regards to the writing being worse than the original games?
You people realise you're talking about Capcom's writing, right?
Just so we can be clear on this one...
(Just to add: I love Capcom games, but I sure as hell don't love them for their writing.)
I totally agree with you man. I'd have been fine if this was just "Angel/Demon Protagonist game #473" and classed as a new IP. But rail-roading the Devil May Cry franchise and abandoning the games that already exist just feels wrong. I was looking forward to an actual Devil May Cry 5 and I'd have bought it, so would new people to the franchise but it looks like I won't get that long awaited sequel now, at least not for a very. very long time. Sad really. Everyone could've got what they wanted fan-boy or no, but sadly it just hasn't turned out that way.DragonWright said:I've played the demo, and it's competent, could've been fun. If this was a new IP, marketed as a DMC-inspired Capcom/NT collaboration, I might've bought it.
But, taking over DMC, giving us this foul-mouthed, unlikable protagonist? I'm passing.
Yay for original thoughts...Danial said:I hope the writing and voice acting can live up to the stellar stuff we got from the first 4 games.
Oh and thanks for the stellar line of spoilers here guys. Its a just a shame that The Escapist doesn't have say, Spoiler tags for hiding spoiler plot points
Oh....
Oh and the Dante with white hair cut scene is what we call a joke, Its a new thing to the internet i know but try goggling the word, you'd be surprised on how many of them there are out there. Hopefully the internet can one day learn not to act like Islamic extremists when someone in power slightly mocks their silly self righteous anger.
I probably should have mentioned that I did play it beginning to end, pretty much the perks you get for having a cousin whose second job is to get early access to games in order to review them.Aiddon said:At the very least, it's just difficult to recommend this game when there are other, BETTER options out there. The DMC HD Collection, DMC4, Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2, God War 1, 2, and 3, El Shaddai, Asura's Wrath, and Bayonetta are all cheaper, and just BETTER (or at the least just more unique). Heck, I'd even say just wait for Metal Gear Rising which has been looking GREAT so far (and heck, people will probably make a more concrete decision with the demo coming out next week). And if it's story, you're not playing the DMC series ANYWAY; if you did play this, you're just gonna be disappointed at the leastXcell935 said:This game was literally as if Grass growing and Paint drying made a video game. The very definition of a rental.
As a Devil May Cry game, its horrible.
The characters even Dante are wooden and unlikeable, the "ground breaking writing" from NT is as cliche as it comes and is heavy on bad dialogue, the gameplay is slow but tight but compared to DMC standards it is sub par, humor is not "Shakespearean", and the ending is flat and predictable. Yes this game wasn't the horrible abomination people predicted it would be, but it still suffered the same fate as RE6. When you cut off a large portion of the demographic, and show disrespect towards the original source material, you lose sales, A LOT of sales.
In a nutshell saying that this games "success" in not being bad "silenced the haters", you are dead wrong. All it did was prove our/the fans points that has nothing to do with change really, just bad decision making on Capcom's end. Its a damn shame, I really wanted a DMC5.
Actually Rising isn't being directed by Kamiya (he isn't even REMOTELY involved in development) as he's already directing The Wonderful 101. Still, it is looking good so far and even the demo seems to trounce this...THING'S attempts at gameplay.Xcell935 said:I probably should have mentioned that I did play it beginning to end, pretty much the perks you get for having a cousin whose second job is to get early access to games in order to review them.
I merely mentioned the bad story because this is Ninja Theory (Fact: Fans of the game pre-release even voted that they cared more about the story then the gameplay, a weird fact indeed...), you'd think they would have hired a good writer like they did their previous titles but no. Not to mention DMC's story in general was never anything to brag about but at least some of its previous title's stories were simple, this ones is trying too hard to be something revolutionary and ends up hopping the bandwagon of all cliches.
Funny you mention MG Rising, I played that demo and I can honestly say I have the feeling it'll turn out great. Sure the being able to cut anything and everything isn't original but what Rising has that the DMC reboot lacks is the fun. I got nostalgic DMC3 chills when I played Rising, not only that but DMC's original creator is directing it, and the combat is not only fluid its also fast. I can only imagine the possibilities when it comes to the challenge it will bring.
Sometimes its wise to do research and get an idea before you spend your small fortune of 60$ after all.
It's one example of many, Capcom games have the same ideas towards writing as Jimmy Savile had towards the year 6 netball team i.e. nothing good. DMC 1-4 all contained some really awful writing and in 2 of the games terrible stories (2/4), I'm an undying fan of DMC3, its one of the best games ever made and also holds one of my only ever real achievements in a game (finished on DMD mode) but as good as the main story was, the writing to get their was in parts teeth gratingly awful ("This Party's getting CHRAZEH! lets rock!").Shadowstar38 said:Yay for original thoughts...
Yeah. People use that one scene a lot to say DMC's writing wasn't much to write home about in the first place. But thst's one overly dramatic scene that makes up 1% of all the cutscenes.
While I'm not disagreeing with the bulk of your post, please realise that when I wrote my post, not once did I say that Capcom developed or wrote this iteration of DMC.Aiddon said:CAPCOM didn't write or develop it, those are both on NT. Secondly, while the DMC series wasn't exactly Planescape Torment, it was self-aware enough to not take itself too seriously so you could laugh WITH it instead of AT it and the characters at least had some charm and were likable. This...this tries SO HARD to be taken seriously and FAILS at every turn. NT's version of Dante is like Travis Touchdown played straight and as such he comes off as a complete twat-racket.Archemetis said:Also, I'm sorry, but am I reading comments in regards to the writing being worse than the original games?
You people realise you're talking about Capcom's writing, right?
Just so we can be clear on this one...
(Just to add: I love Capcom games, but I sure as hell don't love them for their writing.)