Drunken Father Kills Son, Missing Videogame Blamed

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Malygris said:
Drunken Father Kills Son, Missing Videogame Blamed

"The son then proceeds to try and knock the gun away and then he runs away," said police spokeswoman Jodi Silva. Unfortunately, knocking guns out of people's hands is rarely as simple as it looks on television or, dare I say it, in videogames,
Actually, disarming someone who is holding a gun on you is easy, once you've been properly trained and practiced a few thousand times until its a reflex. Oh, and it helps to have the big, round steel balls required to actually attempt it. What the son did was an act of fear and desperation and probably angered Otero enough to pull the trigger, attempting to run away was probably what sealed his fate.

If he had just stood there and talked it out he might have survived, but making a move to disarm his father and then escape escalated the situation and Otero, seeing the source of his anger getting away, decided to fire. What that has to do with video games I'm still trying to figure out. The argument that video games inspired Otero to shoot his son is just weak conjecture. Conjecture that could be applied to countless other incidents as well, so lets hope nobody goes that direction in the investigation or assholes like Jack Thompson will have more ammunition for their little crusade. A missing video game was the initial stressor in this situation, it had nothing to do with the content of the game, anyone's obsession with it, or if even anyone had played it the day of the murder. Why are people this stupid? Does anyone even THINK before they publish a news story anymore?

Maybe I'm being a little oversensitive. Maybe if the argument had originally started because nobody could find the TV remote, the headline would scream, "Man Kills Son Because He Couldn't Change the Channel." But I rather doubt it. And as long as stories like this attract follow-up user comments like, "Lends some credence to video games causing violence" - not booze, not socio-economic conditions, not a rampant gun culture, but videogames - which has itself garnered a considerable amount of "thumbs-up" support from fellow commentators, I don't think it's unreasonable to be a bit touchy about it.

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This is something that I call the 'Marylin Manson Factor' where parents, educators and other authorities have to point the finger at something or someone, and in the case of the Columbine massacre, they pointed that finger at Marylin Manson, citing his music and lyrics as being one of the catalysts that inspired Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris to murder 12 people and take their own lives.

Neither Klebold or Harris listened to any Marylin Manson music. Neither one of them even owned a single Manson CD or casette. It was nothing more than desperate finger pointing by the very people who the finger should be very firmly pressed down upon.

What's this? A father gunned down his son after an argument that in some convoluted way involved a video game? I SMELL A HEADLINE!

First its thinking like that on behalf of the media and asinine comments like those from that idiot who obviously likes to use the word "credence" to sound smart that do nothing to address the real issues. You know, the ones YOU were talking about? I know this has basically been one big paraphrase, but I just wanted you to know that I agree with you about this entire issue, mostly because I have a bit of personal experience in this kind of "reporting".

I had a bike messenger friend get badly hurt because of driver stupidity (I was there and saw everything go down), and when it inevitably made the news all they could say was "...wasn't wearing a helmet" which would have done nothing to prevent the inuries she sustained, and she was not responsible for what was basically an attack. They didn't mention the fact the driver hit her from behind INTENTIONALLY despite the several eyewitness reports including mine, and statements from three lawyers who watched the whole thing.

Nope, a bike messenger getting hit from behind by a dangerous driver with a serious attitute problem and anger issues wasn't the story, the fact that she was hit and wasn't wearing a helmet was. Maybe if we hadn't blocked him from leaving the scene like he tried to and let it turn into a police chase and manhunt it would have been a different (and probably more violent and therefore sensational) story.

So to sum it up folks, don't believe everything you read/hear/see in the news, don't be a FOX news sheep and buy what they're selling. Because that's what they're doing is SELLING YOU A STORY to keep you reading/listening/watching and they don't give a damn about facts, they want a story. The difference between the two is sometimes pretty vast.
 

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Videogames are becoming to modern America what the Jews where to Nazi Germany...
Nice job. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law]
 

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VanityGirl said:
Wow, this is just another reason people will blame videogames over the deaths of others. I agree that it's indeed bullshit. Why didn't the headlines just say, "Drunken Father kills son over argument"? The press are always looking for a scapegoat, goodness forbid we blame alcohol and a previous criminal record, let us blame video games instead.

Malygris said:
I don't think it's unreasonable to be a bit touchy about it.
And no, it's not unreasonable to be a bit touchy about it. But remember your source, it's the Houston Chronicle, the people with a writer who thinks Left 4 Dead 2 and Call of Juarez are racist. ;)
Guess what
every news outlet has writers that believe that, look at the clinton news network
 

Urgh76

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Jesus...... alcohol is less addicting than marijuana yet it does more damage to you and they legalize it! this is just another example of booze killing america
 

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It isn't news anymore, it's catch-phrases. If a video game hadn't been involved, no one would have cared. But because a video game happened to be in the house, 'dear lord, that must have been the reason!' It's hack-journalism at its worst. People are murdered over tv remotes and shoes far more often than any video game... why we don't sensationalize that, I'll never know.
 

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Amnestic said:
I can note, with a certain degree of smug satisfaction, that England+Wales is second lowest for firearm homicide rates per 100,000. Second only to Singapore.
I don't care about firearm homicide rates, only total. Firearms are a tool. If you have less of them, less of them will get used; it doesn't make you 'less violent' and therefore 'better'. Apparently it makes you smug though.

Also, the demographics of England+Wales is hardly comparable to nearly anywhere here, so of course your crime rate will be lower. Why don't we ship a few MS13 thugs over there and we'll see what happens to your crime rate and your smugness.
 

brodie21

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i would like to see one act of violence without someone blaming it on whatever the person played.
 

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we really don't know what transpired, just what the police say. All we can hear of the incident is what the friken idiot father can remember, and the obviously angered mother. How do you really start a heated debate about a lost video game? "I paid GOOD MONEY for that piece of shit and now it's GONE?!" seriously, there is more to it than drunken man shooting son after being pissed off. There probably was something shakey in the marriage, the parents arguing about the game after spinning off from a previous arguement. Again, I state that we really don't know much of anything aside from minimal facts of there was an arguement, father was drunk, there was something said about a lost video game, son entered arguement, father pushed into more angered state, gun enters the arguement, gun has final say in the arguement and the dad caught. There are so much more information the public will never learn because no one was there and the parents can't recall everything in exact detail.

I am curious as to what video game was lost. it is completely irrelevent, but you can't stop curiosity.
 

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VanityGirl said:
Wow, this is just another reason people will blame videogames over the deaths of others. I agree that it's indeed bullshit. Why didn't the headlines just say, "Drunken Father kills son over argument"? The press are always looking for a scapegoat, goodness forbid we blame alcohol and a previous criminal record, let us blame video games instead.
I do agree the media has absolutely no dirt on videogames with this one, but people would be asking what the argument was all about. I'm sure Malygris is right in saying no one would give a damn if the argument were about a missing remote, and it would sound even more ridiculous to us if it actually were about a missing remote. I still think it's ludicrous that anyone would suggest videogames had anything to do with this man killing his son, but the argument itself is a vital detail of the story and should be mentioned, eventhough it wasn't the direct cause, more a trigger of the man's violent nature.

So yes, videogames should not be blamed in the headline, nor should that detail be left out. Here's hoping that the general public finds blaming this on videogames as ridiculous as we do. The facts are all there and it's plain to see videogames hold no blame. If the general public can't see that, they're idiots.
 

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You hit the nail on the head Andy. This was a drunken idiot and the culprit is clearly alcohol. It says "Missing Videogame Blamed." Blamed by who? The title starts with the word drunken for heaven's sake. It should say Drunken Man Kills Son. Man Who Drank So Much He Pulled and Loaded a Gun and Fired it at His Son To Blame. Hmm, maybe it didn't fit in the header.