Duke Nukem Forever Leaks to Torrent Sites

[Shaolen]

I got my "Balls of Steel" Edition coming in next week. The Demo was fun, if short and the "Duke Nudem" flash game was a fun way to waste 5 min. Hail to the king baby!

 

[Waaghpowa]

Okay, this is not relevant at all. Not only does it try to add in some incredible trivialities like "lost copies" and "trade in value" to account for a difference of 20 million copies - while simultaneously completely ignoring the effect sales of preowned games would have on copies, and then saying that the people who play Black ops "steal" - which just manages to nullify your point anyway. We are talking about sales. Sales are abysmal on the PC.

It is relevant because the numbers aren't cut and dry. Console sales are higher, but it isn't necessarily accurate. I know people who have re-bought console games for various reasons, if say 3% of that 12.5 million was re-bought by someone on the 360, that's 375,000 copies. With PC games, it's more likely that a single sale went to a single person and it's theirs forever digitally. People are likely to be more cautious with a PC game purchase as well. Lack of a demo is a big problem with PC purchases because you can't rent them, so if you buy it and you don't like or your system can't run it, whoops, too bad you bought it now. The population should speak for itself, and it's only gotten bigger.

Don't rely on sales numbers to give an accurate image.

 

[commandx]

I doubt the leak source was, as suggested, anything as grand as a Gearbox employee. More likely a copy was stolen somewhere along the distribution line. There have been copies sitting in warehouses and bouncing around in the back of trucks for weeks.

Doing a limited release was asking for it. They had to know that a game as long-awaited and hyped as "DN Whenever" would be hacked and torrented at the speed of type.

Sad really. If they had a timed international release they would have gotten a better jump on the torrent and had FPS dorks lining up outside gamestops around the world. Whomever agreed to letting the rest of the world release the game 4 days before the US market is badly in need of a sound firing.

The international version is set to be released tomorrow, or maybe in hours depending on the country, the leak happened around the 7th, my bet is a 7-eleven somewhere broke street date. This happens with almost every game, the ones where stolen copies are a likely culprit is when there's months until the release from the leak.

Heck I managed to grab a copy of infamous 2 from target a week back or around June 1st, and it was released on the 7th. This is hardly out of the ordinary for any game.

 

[snfonseka]

So no PC? That's is weird. Isn't it?

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

It looks like people couldn't wait a few more days to get the game they been wishing for the last 14 years.

 

[roflmecopter]

This game looks awful anyway I would rather pirate mario cart. Also just because someone will pirate a game doesnt mean someone would actually buy the game if piracy werent an option.

Anyways anti-piracy people please continue to rage about pirates ruining gaming and blahdee blah blahz.

~dance monkeys

 

[AngryFrenchCanadian]

Last paragraph is just gold.

 

[AngryFrenchCanadian]

Okay, this is not relevant at all. Not only does it try to add in some incredible trivialities like "lost copies" and "trade in value" to account for a difference of 20 million copies - while simultaneously completely ignoring the effect sales of preowned games would have on copies, and then saying that the people who play Black ops "steal" - which just manages to nullify your point anyway. We are talking about sales. Sales are abysmal on the PC.

It is relevant because the numbers aren't cut and dry. Console sales are higher, but it isn't necessarily accurate. I know people who have re-bought console games for various reasons, if say 3% of that 12.5 million was re-bought by someone on the 360, that's 375,000 copies. With PC games, it's more likely that a single sale went to a single person and it's theirs forever digitally. People are likely to be more cautious with a PC game purchase as well. Lack of a demo is a big problem with PC purchases because you can't rent them, so if you buy it and you don't like or your system can't run it, whoops, too bad you bought it now. The population should speak for itself, and it's only gotten bigger.

Don't rely on sales numbers to give an accurate image.

Not to mention that most of the time, numbers for digital sales on platforms like Steam aren't available and thus not taken into account.

 

[Waaghpowa]

Not to mention that most of the time, numbers for digital sales on platforms like Steam aren't available and thus not taken into account.

I linked an article earlier that states that roughly 48% of PC game sales are digital, so there's a 21 million units (roughly) sold discrepancy in the sales numbers.

 

[Waaghpowa]

Okay, now ask whether they give a shit. To the company, sales is the number that matters, and its the only number that matters. You can argue that that 1.12 million somehow represents every person on earth, and that the combined 22 million console sales are only one guy, and it won't mean shit. Companies will abandon the platform that 2 million sales and go to the one that has 10 million. That is a simple fact, as well as the situation as it is now. "How many people are on" or "how many times they downloadded the game" is unbelievably irrelevant.

Publishers and developers are essentially sabotaging themselves, piracy is still an issue, not denying that, but the fear and paranoia of piracy is just as bad. Publishers frequently do things such as treat honest paying customers like criminals buy implementing intrusive DRM, deny features and demos, all of which deter someone from purchasing their product.

They should care about their profits from PC, because digital services, such as Steam, yield a profit margin of roughly 70% or more, while retail only gets about 30%. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107742-Gabe-Newell-The-Next-Videogame-Billionaire

What people need to realize is that piracy is going to happen whether you like it or not, wasting time and money into systems that will inevitably be broken is exactly that, a waste of time and money. Do you really think DRM has ever made a pirate buy a game instead of going on a torrent site? Ubisofts "Always online for the other half of the content" DRM was broken in less than a week.

 

[Geisterkarle]

I wonder if anyone's gutsy enough to do a pre-review. XD

Yahzee did already a few months back

 

[Twilight_guy]

You do realize what this means don't you? People are playing Duke Nukem Forever... its the end times people the end of the world is neigh prepare for the final judgement. You pirates only hastened the end, GAME OVER MAN, GAME OVER!!

I wonder how this one got leaked. Hackers or disgruntled employee? At this point I think we should just give the developers the right to take a shotgun, go out, and shot pirates on sight. That'd curb the tide of piracy (or at least be extremely entertaining when there are real shot-outs over videogames).

 

[Thoric485]

Cheers for pointing out that it's the console version being leaked.

I'd like to see Jim Sterling's comment on that. He had this rant in the wake of Crysis 2's leak, about how PC gaming is dying, because we're all filthy pirates.

Nevermind that Crysis sold more copies as a PC exclusive, than Crysis 2 ever will, across 3 paltforms, with all it's marketing.

Spoiler

Because Crysis was a good PC-centric game, and not a cheap console knock-off.

 

[Devon Dent]

I expect people not even bothering to torrent it.

Here here. I waited 13 years just like everyone else, I even bought a copy of Boarderlands, and tried to enjoy it. Then the demo for duke came out, I downloaded it (no small feat for the Wi-Fi on the xbox slim) and then I played it, and only twenty minutes later I cancelled my pre-order for it. I can honestly say the only part of the game I am looking forward to is when Yahtzee DESTROYS it on Zero punctuation.

 

[drunken_munki]

Yes, PC gaming is dying because of piracy and this proves it.

Spoiler

That was sarcasm.

Thank 3423 for that lol, a vein was about to explode in my head.

 

[JediMB]

This... kind of makes me want to go ahead and pre-order my PC version, to compensate, but I've decided to hold off on getting DNF after playing the demo. I'll most likely get the game in July or August instead.

 

[nexekho]

As the old saying goes, "Pirates should be hanged"

As the new saying goes, "Pirates should be worshipped for letting me play the games I bought legally which SecuROM doesn't".