ESA Wants Canada Kept on Piracy Watch List
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O CANADA
OUR HOME AND NATIVE LAND
TRUE PATRIOT LOVE
IN ALL OUR SONS COMMAND
WITH GLOWING HEARTS
WE SEE THEE RISE
THE TRUE NORTH STRONG AND FREE
FROM FAR AND WIDE
O CANADA
WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEE
GOD KEEP OUR LAND
GLORIOUS AND FREE
O CANADA WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEE
O CANADA WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEE
OUR HOME AND NATIVE LAND
TRUE PATRIOT LOVE
IN ALL OUR SONS COMMAND
WITH GLOWING HEARTS
WE SEE THEE RISE
THE TRUE NORTH STRONG AND FREE
FROM FAR AND WIDE
O CANADA
WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEE
GOD KEEP OUR LAND
GLORIOUS AND FREE
O CANADA WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEE
O CANADA WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEE
that's all I really have to say on the subject.
I didn't like canada much when I was there. The US holiday I took was way better, must've been down to better copyright laws allowing me to sleep safer at night.
I know, its true T_TShadowKirby said:Sorry ESA, we are just busy being better than the USA on everything else.
Seriously, how is canada doing so well? Can you send me some of that government healthcare? And the clean air? Oh and the lower crime rates would be lovely.
And the bacon, and endless supplies of maple syrup.Dark Templar said:I know, its true T_TShadowKirby said:Sorry ESA, we are just busy being better than the USA on everything else.
Seriously, how is canada doing so well? Can you send me some of that government healthcare? And the clean air? Oh and the lower crime rates would be lovely.
Hubris you two.Dark Templar said:I know, its true T_TShadowKirby said:Sorry ESA, we are just busy being better than the USA on everything else.
Seriously, how is canada doing so well? Can you send me some of that government healthcare? And the clean air? Oh and the lower crime rates would be lovely.
Watch it, that's how you end up tripping and falling on your ass just before reaching the finish line.
Make your laws like US (see what I did there?) dammnit!!!
Okay, how about a trade? If the US imports Canada's lax cannabis laws, then Canada will jump up on the Piracy bandwagon...It's always nice to appear to give people a way out, even if you design it to be impossible.
I could only imagine the response if Canada tried to tell the US to change its laws...something along the lines of "F**k you Canuck!"? Perhaps?
Okay, how about a trade? If the US imports Canada's lax cannabis laws, then Canada will jump up on the Piracy bandwagon...It's always nice to appear to give people a way out, even if you design it to be impossible.
I could only imagine the response if Canada tried to tell the US to change its laws...something along the lines of "F**k you Canuck!"? Perhaps?
Oh man, that made me WAY more happier then it should have... I actually made the boo squeak in response.T said:
AHH We are heroes.. You and Boo and I... Hamsters and Rangers everywhere, rejoice!
yeah, that sounds like a really good tradeGeneric_Dave said:
Me ranting a bit.. i guess. Tired.
Of course piracy is bad.
In canada or anywhere else the problem is pretty much the same everywhere.. so putting someplace in a "priority list" seems pointless to me. After all, pirate operate on the Net and it doesnt care about borders.
And then you get websites like "torrents" that are used to do just that, when one is taken down, a few weeks later new ones pop up.
And even if they do something about it (in laws).. nothing is EVER done on the terrain (except a very few arrests that are widely shown on TV to scare/pretend they do their job).. police has better things to do than hunt down some pirates, they are kinda harmless so their arent a priority.
And i would prefer that police put their energies hunting down actual criminals (not that pirates arent), political corruption and those frauds who steals billions from the population in impunity.
Of course piracy is bad.
In canada or anywhere else the problem is pretty much the same everywhere.. so putting someplace in a "priority list" seems pointless to me. After all, pirate operate on the Net and it doesnt care about borders.
And then you get websites like "torrents" that are used to do just that, when one is taken down, a few weeks later new ones pop up.
And even if they do something about it (in laws).. nothing is EVER done on the terrain (except a very few arrests that are widely shown on TV to scare/pretend they do their job).. police has better things to do than hunt down some pirates, they are kinda harmless so their arent a priority.
And i would prefer that police put their energies hunting down actual criminals (not that pirates arent), political corruption and those frauds who steals billions from the population in impunity.
A Communist nation with lax ownership protections?! I never thought I'd see the day.Andy Chalk said:
Yes, we really are in a sea of piracy, walking down the street, casually deciding how next to rip everyone else off. Really though, even if the crackdown on this issue is bad, and our country is huge, our population is only about 33 million, minus the people who are too young to care about piracy, or too old, minus those who are too busy, or just don't give a crap one way or another, and you have an extremely small population that actively does pirate the material, mostly stuff that no longer exists (playstation or dreamcast games)as opposed to newer games and material.
Although I guess they have to keep Canada or they won't have enough countries.
Although I guess they have to keep Canada or they won't have enough countries.
Oh yes, because everyone knows that piracy is rampant in Canada! Seriously, the way they describe it, you'd think they're talking about China, with entire homegrown industries dedicated to ripping off other countries IPs, pirate copies of new movies being sold right out in the open with nobody doing anything about it, etc.
This strikes me more as "well we adopted ineffectual and draconian regulations that have bastardized copyright law into something that barely even resembles the original intent because special interest groups bribed our legislature, so they should have to do the same! It's no fair if only our system is retarded!"
Because let's face it - something is gravely wrong with the state of copyright law in America, and it's the everything about copyright law in America. We should be completely overhauling that monstrosity (starting with the DMCA), not attempting to shame other countries into adopting similar statutes!
This strikes me more as "well we adopted ineffectual and draconian regulations that have bastardized copyright law into something that barely even resembles the original intent because special interest groups bribed our legislature, so they should have to do the same! It's no fair if only our system is retarded!"
Because let's face it - something is gravely wrong with the state of copyright law in America, and it's the everything about copyright law in America. We should be completely overhauling that monstrosity (starting with the DMCA), not attempting to shame other countries into adopting similar statutes!
Me being Canadian and living in Costa Rica while having a 1/2 Canadian & 1/2 Costa Rican son, this must make us 100% pirate then? I'm fine with that actually.
So I have a question...
When the US wants other countries to stand up and take the offense in defense of THEIR intellectual property rights and big business, when will they start to honor more important treaties they fail to recognize like the Kyoto Treaty? The US seems to think its more important to protect profit than our planet.
PS: I've got a great blog going about a Canadian expat living in Costa Rica
http://www.sellingcr.com/costa-rica-blog.html
Pura Vida!
So I have a question...
When the US wants other countries to stand up and take the offense in defense of THEIR intellectual property rights and big business, when will they start to honor more important treaties they fail to recognize like the Kyoto Treaty? The US seems to think its more important to protect profit than our planet.
PS: I've got a great blog going about a Canadian expat living in Costa Rica
http://www.sellingcr.com/costa-rica-blog.html
Pura Vida!
Wouldn't deign to suggest otherwise. The picture works on a fairly clear (to my alcohol addled brain at least) metaphorical level. The Shadow Thieves, ruling the Docks District with both overpowering influence and numbers are representative of the Piracy community on the grand scale. The City Watch (read: Law Enforcement) have little effect in the grand scheme of things and although the occasionalAndy Chalk said:
The actual pirates located both down on the Docks themselves and in the hidden cave in the Seas Bounty represent the more 'elite' pirate groups, the guys who do the majority of the cracking, leaking and hacking files that otherwise shouldn't be. They're smugglers, just in data rather than gold or diamonds. They provide the vast wealth with which the Shadow Thieves operate on.
Harper Hold, clearly, represents the more vigilante arm of law enforcement such as the Cyber P.I. who cracked down on all those 360's and Modern Warfare 2 copies back in...October? They operate mostly outside of the law and only interact when necessary, obviously deciding that actual law enforcement doesn't get enough done and so they need to take matters into their own hands - for a profit, of course. Harper Hold was considerably corrupt as I recall.
The small war between Mae'var and Renal Bloodscalp represents the anarchic nature of the internet, displaying how quickly people will turn on one another in search of continued protection from the law - even going so far as to throw their fellow pirate in crime under the bus. No honour among (Shadow) Thieves, right?
I could go on (no, really, I could. I'm sure I could make shit up for every character in the entire district given enough time), but I need to go get some pasta and more alcohol.
I seem to recall hearing the Royal Canadian Mounted Police stating that they would not go after file sharers because "there are more important things to do" and I'm inclined to agree. Here in Toronto, the police still go after bootleggers, people actually selling the burnt discs and all that, which I generally don't take issue with but file sharing is too broad and too many people do it to effectively police by conventional means.
I don't know. This is a weird issue, I can see why people are freaking out but even the heavy downloaders I know still buy more than half of everything they watch/play/listen to. Plus it's a boon to ISP's selling high bandwidth deals.
I don't know. This is a weird issue, I can see why people are freaking out but even the heavy downloaders I know still buy more than half of everything they watch/play/listen to. Plus it's a boon to ISP's selling high bandwidth deals.