No, it's not. It's popular because of us.Booze Zombie said:How exactly is this popular?
It's inexplicable!
Since I didn't see the movie, I can't talk about how botched it was. Since you didn't read the books, you can't talk about how incorrect this is.Ohten said:Buh? Bella is far from a strong female lead. She's about as strong as a wet noodle. She's helpless, clingy, submissive, and happily takes it when Eddy verbally and mentally abuses her bordering on brainwashing her. And why? Because he's supposedly good-looking (to me he just looks like he needs to ditch the '50s combover and stop rolling in a pit of ash).coldfrog said:The last literature series aimed at young female readers this way was probably Golden Compass. Except probably aimed at younger girls, but it still has many similar things, a strong young female lead, a dangerous male love interest, lots of grief, a secretive group of high-up evil adult types. Also it was actually good. Never watched the movie though.
Edit: Whoops, hit post.coldfrog said:Since I didn't see the movie, I can't talk about how botched it was. Since you didn't read the books, you can't talk about how incorrect this is.
But the most important part is not that she always stood up to everyone and was always right and then kicked everyone's ass with machine guns and laser beams, but that she was, in the end, human and made some mistakes. But all in all, in the books at least, she was a strong
female lead.
Maybe I need to re-read those... I have memories of her being self-reliant for a person her age, but it was a while back... I guess I could be remembering incorrectly, but I felt pretty confident that she was frequently portrayed as one willing to stand up to people, even on her own. It shouldn't take me too long to at least read the first one, maybe I'll go do that.Flos said:Edit: Whoops, hit post.coldfrog said:Since I didn't see the movie, I can't talk about how botched it was. Since you didn't read the books, you can't talk about how incorrect this is.
But the most important part is not that she always stood up to everyone and was always right and then kicked everyone's ass with machine guns and laser beams, but that she was, in the end, human and made some mistakes. But all in all, in the books at least, she was a strong
female lead.
I read the books, and I'm quite aware that you're lying. Bella was reliant on her male leads and really did do nothing. A strong female lead prospers despite her male counterpart, not because of him.
She wasn't even a hacked strong female lead. What planet are you from where she is?
Did you see the words "twilight forum" anywhere in my post??? I said "the forums" meaning, these forums. The ones here on the escapist. If you are going to be an asshole, learn to read.Skylarm said:Dark Templar said:You think you are the only one? Browse the forums for like 2 minutes and you'll find quite allot of us aren't stupid teenage girls who buy into this crap.Skylarm said:OH MY GOD! FINALLY! Someone other than myself gets that twilight is crap. I've read the books too, entire waste of time. I will never get back those wasted hours. Anyway, so glad to finally see someone who isn't cooing "twilight is the greatest thing" over and over. I just hope they paid you well to sit though that terrible movie. Kudos ^-^.
erm, have you never been to the internet before? Outside of the Twilight fan forums, everyone doesn't like Twilight, heh.Doug said:OH MY GOD! FINALLY! Someone other than myself gets that twilight is crap. I've read the books too, entire waste of time. I will never get back those wasted hours. Anyway, so glad to finally see someone who isn't cooing "twilight is the greatest thing" over and over. I just hope they paid you well to sit though that terrible movie. Kudos ^-^.
I noticed you both referenced the twilight forums. Do you spend lots of time there? I sure don't. I tend to stay away from anything that has ANYTHING to do with twilight. And I have better ways to spend my time than researching twilight on the internet. So go enjoy the twilight forums that you rave about cause I sure in hell won't step foot there. As for my slight naive view on the hating of twilight, I am a middle school/high school substitute teacher who hears about it all day long. So of course it is nice to hear an adult that agrees with me after parents and kids drivel on about it all day long.
I went to see the movie yesterday with my wife (upon which she correctly noted that I was the only male in the whole theater) and one thing that is surprisingly missing from this review is the thick layer of Catholic American sexual guilt. Seriously, the whole recurring "pure soul" and "bite me" theme is nothing more than a metaphor for "virginity" and "have sex with me".MovieBob said:New Moon
MovieBob tries to find one nice thing to say about New Moon, but it's a stretch.
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This, but excellent work, Bob.qazmatoz said:The bleeping is terribly annoying.