Same here. I don't even think people who want to go technologically/scientifically backwards have the skills to survive in such an environment. An even more blatant message this movie's pushing is "eating meat = bad / vegan = good."themilo504 said:I?m not sick of it I always hated it, If you honestly want to live without techonogy you are a idiot.marioandsonic said:2:40
Am I the only one who's sick of the "industry/science/technology is bad, nature is good" idea that pops up in movies/games/books/etc.?
Despite that annoying plot point the movie still looks very interesting.
After some consideration, I'm going to have to go with Eva Green.V4Viewtiful said:Weshould have a pole. "Who's Hot Enough to be Delilah?"
Any takers?
I agree with the conclusion of your careful consideration... Eva Green ftw!NinjaDeathSlap said:After some consideration, I'm going to have to go with Eva Green.V4Viewtiful said:Weshould have a pole. "Who's Hot Enough to be Delilah?"
Any takers?
Also, while I agree it may be simplistic and a little tired, I think people might be jumping the gun a little getting so uppity about the vegetarian, environmental harmony crowd being denoted the good guys in this one. Certainly, Bob seems to be saying that despite that, this film is far less interested in shoving a moral message of any sort down your throat that some others inspired by religious texts, and is far more concerned with the, well, 'biblical' scale of the thing.
Not everything that so much as passively holds a world-view that differs from yours should be considered a personal attack or admonishment, you know.
That could work into the curse of Cham.Gaijinko said:Noah: lets build a giant boat to save the world from flooding,
Son: what shall we use?
Noah: Wood of course.
Son: from trees? say don't trees help prevent flooding and whatnot, I mean if we didn't build the ungodly big boat by deforestation maybe the world won't flood.
Noah: I hate you, you don't get to stay on the giant boat now.
I actually had to look up the curse of ham and it still has me scratching my head. So Ham sees old guy wang and danglies and recoils, screams at his brothers to make the old guy put on some underpants or at least get a hilarious facebook picture of it, Noah wakes and rather than laughing it off, curses Hams son for eternity. Are we SURE Noah isn't some sort of envoy of the devil.V4Viewtiful said:That could work into the curse of Cham.Gaijinko said:Noah: lets build a giant boat to save the world from flooding,
Son: what shall we use?
Noah: Wood of course.
Son: from trees? say don't trees help prevent flooding and whatnot, I mean if we didn't build the ungodly big boat by deforestation maybe the world won't flood.
Noah: I hate you, you don't get to stay on the giant boat now.
Noah: I celebrate with wine and you talk smack about my drunkeness? This is the last straw, boy!
Cham: I'm not the one who cut down the trees making the flood worse.
Noah: Yeah well me and the fallen angels are tight now and we got plans for you.
Cham: Um, you forgot I'm blessed dad just like my other brothers you can't touch me
Noah: well seeing as you like dragging my name through the mud how about we do that to your children!
And thus Black people was born
Actually it may not just be that, Cham may have spread word around of his Dads drunkeness or disrespected his name in some way that caused great dishonor. The timescale and the metaphorical context of the story as well as the odd miss translation (or double meaning, like how Judas "Betraying" Jesus may just have meant Jesus wanted one of them to hand him over to the authorities willingly) is sketchy at best because.Gaijinko said:I actually had to look up the curse of ham and it still has me scratching my head. So Ham sees old guy wang and danglies and recoils, screams at his brothers to make the old guy put on some underpants or at least get a hilarious facebook picture of it, Noah wakes and rather than laughing it off, curses Hams son for eternity. Are we SURE Noah isn't some sort of envoy of the devil.V4Viewtiful said:That could work into the curse of Cham.Gaijinko said:Noah: lets build a giant boat to save the world from flooding,
Son: what shall we use?
Noah: Wood of course.
Son: from trees? say don't trees help prevent flooding and whatnot, I mean if we didn't build the ungodly big boat by deforestation maybe the world won't flood.
Noah: I hate you, you don't get to stay on the giant boat now.
Noah: I celebrate with wine and you talk smack about my drunkeness? This is the last straw, boy!
Cham: I'm not the one who cut down the trees making the flood worse.
Noah: Yeah well me and the fallen angels are tight now and we got plans for you.
Cham: Um, you forgot I'm blessed dad just like my other brothers you can't touch me
Noah: well seeing as you like dragging my name through the mud how about we do that to your children!
And thus Black people was born
I will admit it has got me interested to read a religious text now to find out exactly what happened, and how we can interpret what was at the time very serious stories through modern eyes. I mean I had to learn from the internet that Jesus actually dabbled in dragon taming.V4Viewtiful said:Actually it may not just be that, Cham may have spread word around of his Dads drunkeness or disrespected his name in some way that caused great dishonor. The timescale and the metaphorical context of the story as well as the odd miss translation (or double meaning, like how Judas "Betraying" Jesus may just have meant Jesus wanted one of them to hand him over to the authorities willingly) is sketchy at best because.Gaijinko said:I actually had to look up the curse of ham and it still has me scratching my head. So Ham sees old guy wang and danglies and recoils, screams at his brothers to make the old guy put on some underpants or at least get a hilarious facebook picture of it, Noah wakes and rather than laughing it off, curses Hams son for eternity. Are we SURE Noah isn't some sort of envoy of the devil.V4Viewtiful said:That could work into the curse of Cham.Gaijinko said:Noah: lets build a giant boat to save the world from flooding,
Son: what shall we use?
Noah: Wood of course.
Son: from trees? say don't trees help prevent flooding and whatnot, I mean if we didn't build the ungodly big boat by deforestation maybe the world won't flood.
Noah: I hate you, you don't get to stay on the giant boat now.
Noah: I celebrate with wine and you talk smack about my drunkeness? This is the last straw, boy!
Cham: I'm not the one who cut down the trees making the flood worse.
Noah: Yeah well me and the fallen angels are tight now and we got plans for you.
Cham: Um, you forgot I'm blessed dad just like my other brothers you can't touch me
Noah: well seeing as you like dragging my name through the mud how about we do that to your children!
And thus Black people was born
A big chunk of what we know about christianity is propaganda, like how Jesus story skips his teens, or the crazy creatures that roamed the Earth like in the Noah film. Hell even marriage, it used to be for many many many centuries more of a business transaction then anything we believe it to be now.Gaijinko said:I will admit it has got me interested to read a religious text now to find out exactly what happened, and how we can interpret what was at the time very serious stories through modern eyes. I mean I had to learn from the internet that Jesus actually dabbled in dragon taming.V4Viewtiful said:Actually it may not just be that, Cham may have spread word around of his Dads drunkeness or disrespected his name in some way that caused great dishonor. The timescale and the metaphorical context of the story as well as the odd miss translation (or double meaning, like how Judas "Betraying" Jesus may just have meant Jesus wanted one of them to hand him over to the authorities willingly) is sketchy at best because.Gaijinko said:I actually had to look up the curse of ham and it still has me scratching my head. So Ham sees old guy wang and danglies and recoils, screams at his brothers to make the old guy put on some underpants or at least get a hilarious facebook picture of it, Noah wakes and rather than laughing it off, curses Hams son for eternity. Are we SURE Noah isn't some sort of envoy of the devil.V4Viewtiful said:That could work into the curse of Cham.Gaijinko said:Noah: lets build a giant boat to save the world from flooding,
Son: what shall we use?
Noah: Wood of course.
Son: from trees? say don't trees help prevent flooding and whatnot, I mean if we didn't build the ungodly big boat by deforestation maybe the world won't flood.
Noah: I hate you, you don't get to stay on the giant boat now.
Noah: I celebrate with wine and you talk smack about my drunkeness? This is the last straw, boy!
Cham: I'm not the one who cut down the trees making the flood worse.
Noah: Yeah well me and the fallen angels are tight now and we got plans for you.
Cham: Um, you forgot I'm blessed dad just like my other brothers you can't touch me
Noah: well seeing as you like dragging my name through the mud how about we do that to your children!
And thus Black people was born
That's what i keep telling everyone! Amazing's Goblin totally looks like Jareth in his younger days or something. Or maybe Jareth's kid going through a grunge phaseMcMarbles said:THAT'S the Greem Goblin? Apparently someone's ony point of reference for goblins was iLabyrinth.
This may sound a bit wrong especially for purists on the matter but what I would love is if someone collected all the texts about some of the more...unknown or even forgotten or taboo as it were dealings of their religious icons, so coming from Christianity Hinduism, etc etc but translates it without bias and not too much humor so we can really see what olden time religion was all about.V4Viewtiful said:A big chunk of what we know about christianity is propaganda, like how Jesus story skips his teens, or the crazy creatures that roamed the Earth like in the Noah film. Hell even marriage, it used to be for many many many centuries more of a business transaction then anything we believe it to be now.Gaijinko said:I will admit it has got me interested to read a religious text now to find out exactly what happened, and how we can interpret what was at the time very serious stories through modern eyes. I mean I had to learn from the internet that Jesus actually dabbled in dragon taming.V4Viewtiful said:Actually it may not just be that, Cham may have spread word around of his Dads drunkeness or disrespected his name in some way that caused great dishonor. The timescale and the metaphorical context of the story as well as the odd miss translation (or double meaning, like how Judas "Betraying" Jesus may just have meant Jesus wanted one of them to hand him over to the authorities willingly) is sketchy at best because.Gaijinko said:I actually had to look up the curse of ham and it still has me scratching my head. So Ham sees old guy wang and danglies and recoils, screams at his brothers to make the old guy put on some underpants or at least get a hilarious facebook picture of it, Noah wakes and rather than laughing it off, curses Hams son for eternity. Are we SURE Noah isn't some sort of envoy of the devil.V4Viewtiful said:That could work into the curse of Cham.Gaijinko said:Noah: lets build a giant boat to save the world from flooding,
Son: what shall we use?
Noah: Wood of course.
Son: from trees? say don't trees help prevent flooding and whatnot, I mean if we didn't build the ungodly big boat by deforestation maybe the world won't flood.
Noah: I hate you, you don't get to stay on the giant boat now.
Noah: I celebrate with wine and you talk smack about my drunkeness? This is the last straw, boy!
Cham: I'm not the one who cut down the trees making the flood worse.
Noah: Yeah well me and the fallen angels are tight now and we got plans for you.
Cham: Um, you forgot I'm blessed dad just like my other brothers you can't touch me
Noah: well seeing as you like dragging my name through the mud how about we do that to your children!
And thus Black people was born
I personally like the old testament because it's just so raw! I've read some of the old Hebrew text and it goes into a lot more detail with many of these stories, as you'd expect.
Can't we just have a film that says, just maybe, neither side is evil?Yozozo said:I think that is why Bob was like "GEEZE, I wonder who the good guys are" so sarcastically. It is certainly becoming a very tiring trope. Too bad the reverse would get skewered in today's overly charged political climate :/marioandsonic said:2:40
Am I the only one who's sick of the "industry/science/technology is bad, nature is good" idea that pops up in movies/games/books/etc.?
V4Viewtiful said:A big chunk of what we know about christianity is propaganda, like how Jesus story skips his teens, or the crazy creatures that roamed the Earth like in the Noah film. Hell even marriage, it used to be for many many many centuries more of a business transaction then anything we believe it to be now.Gaijinko said:I will admit it has got me interested to read a religious text now to find out exactly what happened, and how we can interpret what was at the time very serious stories through modern eyes. I mean I had to learn from the internet that Jesus actually dabbled in dragon taming.V4Viewtiful said:Actually it may not just be that, Cham may have spread word around of his Dads drunkeness or disrespected his name in some way that caused great dishonor. The timescale and the metaphorical context of the story as well as the odd miss translation (or double meaning, like how Judas "Betraying" Jesus may just have meant Jesus wanted one of them to hand him over to the authorities willingly) is sketchy at best because.Gaijinko said:I actually had to look up the curse of ham and it still has me scratching my head. So Ham sees old guy wang and danglies and recoils, screams at his brothers to make the old guy put on some underpants or at least get a hilarious facebook picture of it, Noah wakes and rather than laughing it off, curses Hams son for eternity. Are we SURE Noah isn't some sort of envoy of the devil.V4Viewtiful said:That could work into the curse of Cham.Gaijinko said:Noah: lets build a giant boat to save the world from flooding,
Son: what shall we use?
Noah: Wood of course.
Son: from trees? say don't trees help prevent flooding and whatnot, I mean if we didn't build the ungodly big boat by deforestation maybe the world won't flood.
Noah: I hate you, you don't get to stay on the giant boat now.
Noah: I celebrate with wine and you talk smack about my drunkeness? This is the last straw, boy!
Cham: I'm not the one who cut down the trees making the flood worse.
Noah: Yeah well me and the fallen angels are tight now and we got plans for you.
Cham: Um, you forgot I'm blessed dad just like my other brothers you can't touch me
Noah: well seeing as you like dragging my name through the mud how about we do that to your children!
And thus Black people was born
I personally like the old testament because it's just so raw! I've read some of the old Hebrew text and it goes into a lot more detail with many of these stories, as you'd expect.
Jesus giving someone "the finger" after running into him? Flippin' fantasticnintendofan25 said:V4Viewtiful said:A big chunk of what we know about christianity is propaganda, like how Jesus story skips his teens, or the crazy creatures that roamed the Earth like in the Noah film. Hell even marriage, it used to be for many many many centuries more of a business transaction then anything we believe it to be now.Gaijinko said:I will admit it has got me interested to read a religious text now to find out exactly what happened, and how we can interpret what was at the time very serious stories through modern eyes. I mean I had to learn from the internet that Jesus actually dabbled in dragon taming.V4Viewtiful said:Actually it may not just be that, Cham may have spread word around of his Dads drunkeness or disrespected his name in some way that caused great dishonor. The timescale and the metaphorical context of the story as well as the odd miss translation (or double meaning, like how Judas "Betraying" Jesus may just have meant Jesus wanted one of them to hand him over to the authorities willingly) is sketchy at best because.Gaijinko said:I actually had to look up the curse of ham and it still has me scratching my head. So Ham sees old guy wang and danglies and recoils, screams at his brothers to make the old guy put on some underpants or at least get a hilarious facebook picture of it, Noah wakes and rather than laughing it off, curses Hams son for eternity. Are we SURE Noah isn't some sort of envoy of the devil.V4Viewtiful said:That could work into the curse of Cham.Gaijinko said:Noah: lets build a giant boat to save the world from flooding,
Son: what shall we use?
Noah: Wood of course.
Son: from trees? say don't trees help prevent flooding and whatnot, I mean if we didn't build the ungodly big boat by deforestation maybe the world won't flood.
Noah: I hate you, you don't get to stay on the giant boat now.
Noah: I celebrate with wine and you talk smack about my drunkeness? This is the last straw, boy!
Cham: I'm not the one who cut down the trees making the flood worse.
Noah: Yeah well me and the fallen angels are tight now and we got plans for you.
Cham: Um, you forgot I'm blessed dad just like my other brothers you can't touch me
Noah: well seeing as you like dragging my name through the mud how about we do that to your children!
And thus Black people was born
I personally like the old testament because it's just so raw! I've read some of the old Hebrew text and it goes into a lot more detail with many of these stories, as you'd expect.
if you are interested, check out the infancy gospel of Thomas. it tells a story of jesus as kid, and in it he kills another boy by pointing at him for just running into him. not the jesus you hear about in the gospels. =)