Escape to the Movies: Scre4m
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Ok granted, but I'm still unimpressed. When I said "beat the shit out of him" I didn't mean just knock him off balance and run away, I meant beat him to unconsciousness, bind him then get the fucking cops.TheEggplant said:
The 90s ruled. Great music, great cartoons, Nickelodeon in it's prime, awesome movies (first Scream included), birthplace of the internet, as well as the golden age of video games. I might feel somewhat biased simply because it's the decade I grew up with, but to say it sucked is a little harsh. What the 1980's were any better?
As for the Scream franchise, I have a hard time understanding how you hate a "meta before it was cool to be meta" film like the first Scream, yet embrace a much lazier movie like Paul that features many of the same type of humor.
As for the Scream franchise, I have a hard time understanding how you hate a "meta before it was cool to be meta" film like the first Scream, yet embrace a much lazier movie like Paul that features many of the same type of humor.
Understood, but as I mentioned earlier the Scream films are about playing with the genre, not subverting it. The killers in those films were superhuman until the end when their face was revealed. To do something else would have been making a new type of film.canadamus_prime said:
I don't usually have a problem with Bob's incredible bias towards things, but today's episode really just pissed me off. I think it was just his explanation at the start, which to me sounded like "waaaaaaah waaaaaaah I used to be a happy little snowflake, and then Scream came out and all the popular kids could do the same things as me. SCREAM SUCKS! Waaaah."
Starting a review with crap like that renders anything he had to say afterward completely pointless, IMO.
As, for the movie itself, dont care. never seen any of them before, don't plan to see this one.
Starting a review with crap like that renders anything he had to say afterward completely pointless, IMO.
As, for the movie itself, dont care. never seen any of them before, don't plan to see this one.
Way to spectacularly miss the point. Yahtzee produces a comedy show in which he plays an exaggerated version of himself and reviews games with his tongue firmly in his cheek, there's not an ounce of genuine malice in any of his videos. He mocks the fans of the genres he doesn't like but he never simply calls them fucking idiots.omegawyrm said:
Bob on the other hand is becoming more and more of a smug douche who blatantly insults everyone who disagrees with him, including a large portion of his viewers, without a hint of shame or irony. Bob's reaction to differing opinions is to call everyone who disagrees with him stupid and continues to portray any group he isn't a part of as retarded jocks.
For example, Yahtzee doesn't like JRGP's so he doesn't review them, and on the odd occasion he does he mocks the aspects of them he doesn't like. Bob opened this review with a rant about how Scream dared to bring his hobby into the mainstream and take away his special thing. It would be like if Yahtzee started hating on Mario because he was once molested by a guy with a mustache.
If you can find a single valid criticism in this review I'd love to hear it, because I've just watched it again and there's nothing.
all nice and well. but why did you pick lucas as your kid picture? to symbolize the problems you had as a kid?
I hate to break it to you but lucas(from mother 3)life is basically hell. he lost his mother his brother and he saw the friendly people of his hometown become becoming mean and then leaving until the town is empty. Comparing that to a kid losing the only thing he really was skillful is like comparing the nuclear bombs hitting Japan to a normal bomb hitting one house and causing one dead yes both of them are sad but the I think we can see which one is biggest tragedy.
and yes i know the irony of comparing the problems of a kid to a bomb is stupid.
are there no other pictures of kids on the web I mean lucas is kind of obscure.
have you played mother 3? If not then do it
I hate to break it to you but lucas(from mother 3)life is basically hell. he lost his mother his brother and he saw the friendly people of his hometown become becoming mean and then leaving until the town is empty. Comparing that to a kid losing the only thing he really was skillful is like comparing the nuclear bombs hitting Japan to a normal bomb hitting one house and causing one dead yes both of them are sad but the I think we can see which one is biggest tragedy.
and yes i know the irony of comparing the problems of a kid to a bomb is stupid.
are there no other pictures of kids on the web I mean lucas is kind of obscure.
have you played mother 3? If not then do it
Hmmm The more I read an analyze this it looks like Bob is turning into Frank Miller.
According to one review of Linkara's (I forget which), Frank Miller's work has gradually gone down in quality (read: escape to the movies), but on his blog posts is well-spoken (read: big picture, and intermission).
And I think maybe there could be a reason for this simply that short time = small detail.
In intermission he tends to have a lot more time to explain his reasoning, and in big picture the topics tend to be so specific the details needed can get in.
But escape to the movies? He just lacks the time to put in the details needs to make his arguments stick. Blanket statements, without context or evidence = pissed off group of people. It's pretty much a fundamental rule of debate. Plus since the other side is giving evidence on this forum and Bob...did not. They have a huge jump on him, making him look, well. Like a whiny protester outside of a government building holding a sign and yelling "WE WANT CHANGE" without any detail on what they WANT changed.
According to one review of Linkara's (I forget which), Frank Miller's work has gradually gone down in quality (read: escape to the movies), but on his blog posts is well-spoken (read: big picture, and intermission).
And I think maybe there could be a reason for this simply that short time = small detail.
In intermission he tends to have a lot more time to explain his reasoning, and in big picture the topics tend to be so specific the details needed can get in.
But escape to the movies? He just lacks the time to put in the details needs to make his arguments stick. Blanket statements, without context or evidence = pissed off group of people. It's pretty much a fundamental rule of debate. Plus since the other side is giving evidence on this forum and Bob...did not. They have a huge jump on him, making him look, well. Like a whiny protester outside of a government building holding a sign and yelling "WE WANT CHANGE" without any detail on what they WANT changed.
Way to spectacularly miss the point. Yahtzee is taken quite seriously among many communities in real life and online, and those people therefore think that it's cool to talk about how all modern games suck and are unoriginal ripoffs. I like games, and that makes me upset. And he's at least playing the character of a smug douche and there have been many times Yahtzee has personally insulted me for liking something without seeming the slightest bit ironic about it. He's insulted people who like visual novels, people who like Warhammer 40k, people who read Batman comics, people who like motion controls, and people who like JRPGs, groups that all include me. Bob has never once insulted a group I belong too.Farson89 said:
And who the hell are you to criticize another person's emotional reactions to their life history? He said he's been emotionally invested in his hobby since he was a kid, and he said he felt like the Scream movie allowed other people a grounds to unfairly cheapen that investment. Maybe you don't get that, but you can't say it's not a valid emotion.
And I have nothing to say about the movie, I've not seen it or any of the Scream movies.
... In fairness Bob, it is a douchebag party trick.
I do it too. I proudly boast that I identified the killer in Dexter Season 1 the moment he showed his face on screen. I managed to brag in Biology class that I knew all about Lupus from watching House. The nerdy business of knowing everything about something lends itself to douchebaggery.
I do it too. I proudly boast that I identified the killer in Dexter Season 1 the moment he showed his face on screen. I managed to brag in Biology class that I knew all about Lupus from watching House. The nerdy business of knowing everything about something lends itself to douchebaggery.
1. You're doing it again.omegawyrm said:
First of all, Yahtzee shouldn't be taken all that seriously, we're agreed on that. He's a single guy with an internet connection and a mic and his opinion has no more or less value than anyone else's and anyone who blindly follows his opinion needs to start thinking for themselves. As for his 'insults', don't you understand the term tongue in cheek? I've never detected a single ounce of spite or malice from a Yahtzee video, he's playing up those insults for laughs, you aren't meant to take them seriously. I've been a part of those groups too, he's repeatedly savaged games and series I like and every time he's 'insulted' me I've known to take it as the joke it clearly is. Defending Bob because he hasn't yet called out you personally is one hell of a case of double standards. SO it's not okay for Yahtzee to make a joke at your expense but Bob can tell huge groups of other people to fuck off? There was real spite in this review and it was unpleasant to sit through, it's something that's been building for a while but it really came out in this video. He's perfectly entitled to hate Scream but not to be a huge dounche for no reason.
2. Again, I'm emotionally invested in things too. DO you know how annoying it was as a long time Batman fan to have to listen to everybody's un-informed opinions about the Joker after The Dark Knight came out? The same happened with 300, I'm a big ancient history buff and suddenly everyone was an expert on the Spartans despite actually knowing nothing. And you know what? I could still enjoy those films because I'm not an overgrown child, getting upset at the films themselves is pointless. I can make that judgement because I've gone through the same thing multiple times without throwing a fit.
3. Not what I was asking, I was asking if Bob had made any real points of value in his review and he didn't. I'm annoyed at him because I know he's better than this. He can produce negative reviews while making valid points and not act like an ass.
OK, fine, regardless of the fact that that first argument is totally reversible and depends only on how you see the person, you win. Your intellect is clearly so vastly superior to my own and you're so coolly disconnected and emotionally mature that you don't get upset at movies because of the social situations surrounding them, and I am a mere infant by comparison.Farson89 said:
I will make no further comments to rebut your superior opinions or interpretations, sorry to have wasted your time.
Ah, you don't have a leg to stand on so you're pulling out and being snarky, nice. You'll note that I never called YOUR intelligence or maturity into question nor did I imply that I'm smarter than anyone here. I simply suggested that it isn't mature to get upset at a movie for bringing your personal interest into the mainstream and it's easy to brush it off, if I can do it why can't Bob? If you genuinely do get upset when that kind of thing happens there's something wrong with you.omegawyrm said:
But if you're so set on defending him at this point that you'll happily misrepresent what I've said then more power to you. I'm sure Bob will now ask you to be his best friend forever in return for your sterling efforts.
If anything it's ironic that I never accused you of being immature and in the post you say that I did, you act immature. But whatever feel free to act as if sticking your fingers in your ears is a sign of maturity.
