Escape to the Movies: Scre4m

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OutforEC

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As much as I liked the first one and disliked the following ones, I've always thought the character design on Ghostface was great. I believe if it wasn't such a letdown that the design is in movies where it's just a douchbag wearing a costume, and it was portraying something more sinister, the character design wouldn't get crapped on so much.
 

samus17

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Jeez, if I wanted to hear such namby-pamby ranting like this, I'd go back to high school. jeez Bob, I know it's hard to be unbiased in a review, but I'm really starting to get sick of the chip on your shoulder whenever your personal little nerd-club hits the mainstream. I thought this was a review, not a livejournal...
 

Caligulove

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I have never actually seen any of the Scream movies beyond the very first scene of the very first movie.

From what I've seen of it and other films by Wes Craven, I always try to challenge the notion that the man is some kind of Horror master. Never was too impressed by the Nightmare on Elm St stuff- though that might be the result of growing up with Freddy Krueger being an 'icon' of a past horror age- that wasnt really seen as scary anymore.
 

rickthetrick

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Yeah yeah knew this would suck right off the bat.

To everyone griping about the nineties. I wouldnt say they sucked but I sure as hell wouldn't want to relive them, or any prior decade. I mean having to deal with vhs tapes alone would be enough to piss me off.

edit: oh and a new crow movie is fail no matter the formula.
 

Raioken18

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What... is with people proudly announcing that they have never seen a Scream movie...
Does that mean you either have psychic powers or were too "underground" to even watch a movie and decide for yourself...? It's like saying, "I'm proud of being ignorant".

Me? I was quite young when I first snuck into the movies to see Scream,
Whilst not actually scared, (I may have jumped once...) I kind of thought it was meant to be satirical on purpose...

Like Scary Movie referencing it, was a spoof comedy about horror movies referencing a satirical horror movie...

I think that... the era of awesome horror movies had passed by the time I was old enough to legitimately buy tickets to see horror movies (about 10 years ago).

Movies that have legitimately made me feel scared/unnerved include...
Dawn of the Dead, The Butterfly Effect, Predator, 28 Days Later, Requiem for a Dream, and... umm I tend to watch a lot of foreign movies with titles I can't pronounce... low budget horror movies tend to turn out better because they are forces to use suspense and other elements to make up for no CGI or whatever.

Whilst a few of those aren't actually horror movies, they do have elements of suspense, character development and unnerving interactions that I affiliate with good horror movies.
 

Cherry Cola

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After months of not wanting to put up with Bob's hypocrisy, misplaced sense of important and all those other really really shit qualities he possesses, I decided to give him another chance today. Turning my other cheek, if one might say. Maybe he had improved?

The very first thing to come up in this video is mister Bob whining about not being special anymore.

Stay classy, Bob
 

TheEndlessSleep

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So you hate the franchise right off the bat because it made your one talent meaningless?

I can't take your review seriously if you openly admit to being biased against the movie before you start...
 

moviedork

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TheEndlessSleep said:
So you hate the franchise right off the bat because it made your one talent meaningless?

I can't take your review seriously if you openly admit to being biased against the movie before you start...
It's like saying you hate the internet because it makes it easier for anyone and everyone to have your extensive movie knowledge.
 

MonkeyPunch

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Maybe it's because I spent my "best years" in them, but I like the 90's.

Interesting to see that someone else shares my distaste for Scream. I also really disliked the Parodies of that film; aka. Scary Movie. *shudders*
Those are all best forgotten.

TheEndlessSleep said:
So you hate the franchise right off the bat because it made your one talent meaningless?

I can't take your review seriously if you openly admit to being biased against the movie before you start...
I don't reckon he hates Scream because it made one of his talents meaningless - it was just a bi-product of that terrible movie.
Seems like a lot of people only took in the part where he mentions his childhood "talent" and ignore the rest of the explanation as to why he thinks Scream was rubbish.

Everyone's biased - Bob just mentions it advance.
The only people who could be totally unbiased towards Screfourm are the ones who never saw the prequels, which would make for a pretty lame review if you hadn't seen the others.
So at least you know where you stand here.

lokiduck said:
For once can you leave my era alone D:< I was born in 1990 so I'm a 90's kid and it really bothers and annoys me how you stab at my era all the time because it wasn't your precious little 80's.
Mind, if you were born in the 90's then the oldest you could have been was 10 by the time they were over... how broad a view can a 10 year old (or younger) really have about an entire decade?
Just sayin' is all.
 

Buizel91

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The 90's sucked?

Two words Bob. Warner Bros.
And another word...Pokemon! tee hee :')

OT: I like the Scream movies, just think of them as a comedy (which it was originally going to be before they chose to do a horror) then it kinda gets away with what it does :p
 

sarahvait

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I saw Scream 4 yesterday and it was...kinda meh. I didn't think it was terrible, but I wouldn't pay to see it again, and even if it was on TV for free I'd probably see if something else was on first before watching it.

It is a pretty bad strike against the movie when the best scene is the one where the characters are watching another movie that you happen to like (aka Shaun of the Dead. Gotta put in my DVD to watch now).

I never really had anything against the Scream franchise in general. It exists, and the movies are generally average and below IMO. The first one had some points for attempting to shake things up a little, but I probably wouldn't put it in my top 20 favorite scary movies.

I did rather like Hayden Panettiere in the movie. I actually think she had the best character out of the cast, even though her clothes and hairstyle made me wonder if she was in Sucker Punch.

There is one part involving the stupidest character in the movie that frankly, in my mind, just defies all logical reasoning.

Sidney's publicist/book agent or whatever she is is pretty much designated as a bitchy "Yeah for innocents getting murdered because now Sidney can do another book deal and my company, and by proxy me, will makes loads more money". So it's really obvious from the start that she's going to be in the body count.

So she's going to her car in the hospital parking garage and the killer calls her, she freaks out and runs to her car, locking herself in. Now, I'm inclined to count this against her, because personally, I would have run straight back to the door she went through to enter the garage and gone back into the hospital where there are loads of people and cops. But technically, she did use an elevator to get to the garage, so she might have been killed waiting for it to get to her floor. (Still, I would imagine there are stairs nearby she could have used). In this case, it's a bit of a fifty/fifty toss up, so I'll say that going for the car is about as good an idea as going back to the elevator.

So she's locked in the car, trying to get it to start when Ghost Face pops up in front of her hood outside with a bundle of wires in his hand. Okay, he's cut the power to her car, obviously she can't drive away. She turns her head for a second as she sees another car driving away and yells for help, and when she turns to look back, Ghost Face is gone. Then SHE GETS OUT OF THE CAR.

What? WHAT? Where is the logic in that? You know he's out there, and you're locked in the safety of your car. Granted, he might have been able to break through the windows and get her, but she was still ten times safer staying in the car than getting out. And most people have things in their car they could use as a weapon; my mom has a hammer/slash knife thing for emergencies in her car (in case you need to break the window and crawl out of the car, and the knife part functions to let you cut yourself out of your seatbelt if it won't unbuckle), that would make a pretty decent weapon. Hell, even one of those chipper/brushes you use to remove snow and ice from your windows would have worked.

Obviously, it would have been better to stay in the car and wait, maybe see if you can get the attention of another car coming by. But the even better thing she could have done is just use her phone and call for help. Ghost Face called her right as she entered the garage, so she's got a working signal. And again, there are cops right in and around the hospital. Someone would have been there to help her in like five minutes.

But of course she doesn't. She gets out of the car, runs for the door and gets caught and killed.
 

masticina

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Trouble

If a movie remembers you about a better one sure can happen. But if the only good part of a movie IS the reference to a better movie. One you could be watching right now... yeah!

I mean sometimes only one or two things are good in a movie it happens. Like with Manos the Hand of Fate. Torgo was good..and the dog was one of the best actors, Just like the dog in The Room.

You get my point.. really Scre4m won't make it. It won't be remembered. It will be at most bought to own the full series. But watched? No!
 

Grond Strong

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Haha, this movie couldn't have gotten a more biased reviewer. Not that I care, these movies don't hold much interest for me, it simply amuses me.

Scream Five should be Mask Man vs. Movie Bob.

I'd watch it.
 

yellowhead

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While i do really like MovieBob and i really enjoy his reviews, i get the feeling that no matter how good or bad this movie was then he would have bashed it no matter what because of a personal vendetta.
 

Astoria

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I liked the first scream but can't remember the other two. I'm not expecting anything from this, everyone knows that sequels get worse as they go on.
 

Semi-Human

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is bob biased here...yeah.
but does that change that this movie sucks? No.

Scream has always been a shitty hack movie. Its dull as fuck, does any really care about the characters? The only thing there deaths mean is one less douche to scream like a annoying morron. If they want to do funny self aware they should do some jokes about milking the shit out of something that sucked to begin because or advertisement and fantards.
 

DalekJaas

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Jesus 5 minutes of Bob sitting there bitching. I couldn't even finish the review, not that I would ever watch scream anyway.
 

Stall

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Semi-Human said:
is bob biased here...yeah.
but does that change that this movie sucks? No.
No. The movie might not have been good, but he failed at his job as a critic. He used his position as the site's main movie critic not to do a proper critique, but to spew hate for 5 minutes. Biases are natural, but you are supposed to set them aside when you review something. Bob let his bias get too in the way.

No one here is saying Scre4m was good, or are defending the movie in the light of the "criticism". People are saying Bob allowed his personal vendettas and biases to cloud his judgement, thus gave us a pathetically unprofessional review. You are attacking the straw man in every sense of the word.