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I believe it is a difficult thing to find somebody on the Escapist who does not fit the molds of:

Socialist/other Leftist
Fascist/other Authoritarian
Libertarian
hmmm, me?
personally, I think free will is overated and that we humans are merely foolish children, desperately searching for a light switch that doesnt exist in a dark room with many stairs.
and you are going to keep me out of this perfect world simply because my views are that of a philistine?
I will ask you again,
CONCEDE!!!
I have one final trump card if this doesnt work, do you really want me to play it?

PS:again, I am sorry for patronizing, I just want to argue with you.
Its a quest to defeat you, and I am on it.

From your description, you seem rather authoritarian. You should do well on the island with the other authoritarians.
how can you put them on your island?
we would conquer as quickly as possible, then create war against each other to gain control and become dictator.
also, I found another card, on your profile it sais you yourself are a socialist...
lay your hand, ante up
[HEADING=1]CONCEDE!![/HEADING]
I would be on the Socialist floating city. The mod delegation on the island would prevent too much fighting, but as factions vying for control is a part of any un-Democratic system, they would most likely allow limited battling for control of the island among the authoritarians.

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Our floating city will also be a staging arena for NeonBob's nuke attacks of the whales. Any invasions of the floating city, and perhaps the Socialists capture the stockpile...
Ok quick question that doesn't seem to even be answered. I fit in none of the categorizes. I like my democracy threw and threw. So where would I fit or would I even be welcome. I'm not a big fan of a socialized government.
Both Libertarianism and Socialism are democratic forms of government, but considering that your main complaint is that you don't like socialized government, that rules out the latter. You would go to the undersea Libertarian paradise.
Hell I'm happy as long as ADAM stays far far away from this utopia. Though as a thought to keep all of the parts of the country together and united there should be a rep from each part, an ambassador if you will, to help make laws that are good for all parts and each part have their own separate government. Much like the state and Federal government is set up in the US. To keep and check and balance system so one doesn't over power the other. Just an idea.
Each society will have a delegation of mods to keep everything running smoothly and in what unison can possibly be between Fascists, Socialists and Libertarians. That is sort of similar. Also, as stated in group, we have declared Jack Thompson and Michael Atkinson enemies of the state, and demanding their extradition to our nation for trial will be an early unifying goal to keep us together through founding.
Agreed. Well oh commander I shall do what ever you need me to do. *salutes*
The only person who should be considered absolute commander is Kuliani. While I may be elected by the Socialists in the floating city to represent them (and may be made a general in NeonBob's whale nuking army) I am no full commander.
Ok fine fearless leader. But as I said, my brain power is at your full disposal. Aww going after the whale scum I see.
Well, NeonBob is a respected Escapian, and his long-fought war with the whales must be considered by our new nation to be in the best interests of us all.
 

Lizmichi

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2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
I believe it is a difficult thing to find somebody on the Escapist who does not fit the molds of:

Socialist/other Leftist
Fascist/other Authoritarian
Libertarian
hmmm, me?
personally, I think free will is overated and that we humans are merely foolish children, desperately searching for a light switch that doesnt exist in a dark room with many stairs.
and you are going to keep me out of this perfect world simply because my views are that of a philistine?
I will ask you again,
CONCEDE!!!
I have one final trump card if this doesnt work, do you really want me to play it?

PS:again, I am sorry for patronizing, I just want to argue with you.
Its a quest to defeat you, and I am on it.

From your description, you seem rather authoritarian. You should do well on the island with the other authoritarians.
how can you put them on your island?
we would conquer as quickly as possible, then create war against each other to gain control and become dictator.
also, I found another card, on your profile it sais you yourself are a socialist...
lay your hand, ante up
[HEADING=1]CONCEDE!![/HEADING]
I would be on the Socialist floating city. The mod delegation on the island would prevent too much fighting, but as factions vying for control is a part of any un-Democratic system, they would most likely allow limited battling for control of the island among the authoritarians.

edit-

Our floating city will also be a staging arena for NeonBob's nuke attacks of the whales. Any invasions of the floating city, and perhaps the Socialists capture the stockpile...
Ok quick question that doesn't seem to even be answered. I fit in none of the categorizes. I like my democracy threw and threw. So where would I fit or would I even be welcome. I'm not a big fan of a socialized government.
Both Libertarianism and Socialism are democratic forms of government, but considering that your main complaint is that you don't like socialized government, that rules out the latter. You would go to the undersea Libertarian paradise.
Hell I'm happy as long as ADAM stays far far away from this utopia. Though as a thought to keep all of the parts of the country together and united there should be a rep from each part, an ambassador if you will, to help make laws that are good for all parts and each part have their own separate government. Much like the state and Federal government is set up in the US. To keep and check and balance system so one doesn't over power the other. Just an idea.
Each society will have a delegation of mods to keep everything running smoothly and in what unison can possibly be between Fascists, Socialists and Libertarians. That is sort of similar. Also, as stated in group, we have declared Jack Thompson and Michael Atkinson enemies of the state, and demanding their extradition to our nation for trial will be an early unifying goal to keep us together through founding.
Agreed. Well oh commander I shall do what ever you need me to do. *salutes*
The only person who should be considered absolute commander is Kuliani. While I may be elected by the Socialists in the floating city to represent them (and may be made a general in NeonBob's whale nuking army) I am no full commander.
Ok fine fearless leader. But as I said, my brain power is at your full disposal. Aww going after the whale scum I see.
Well, NeonBob is a respected Escapian, and his long-fought war with the whales must be considered by our new nation to be in the best interests of us all.
yes yes those damn whales.
 

NoblePhilistineFox

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2012 Wont Happen said:
I now concede that nothing is perfect so that we can move on to more productive conversation about establishing a nearly perfect Escapist nation.
I shall accept that as my win, you put up a valiant fight.
I kinda have an unfair advantage though, I have two people in my head ^_^
hmmm, actually, lets say we both win,
I cannot, in good conscience take such an argument and simply turn it down.
so as a sign of good sportsmanship, I have done 3 things
1.)added you as a friend, I couldnt stop licking my canine tooth I was having so much fun ^w^
2.)joined the group, I want to be the dictator of the authoritist island, my purpose will be none other than anarchy of my own systems(Ive never argued against myself before ^.^)
 

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Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
I believe it is a difficult thing to find somebody on the Escapist who does not fit the molds of:

Socialist/other Leftist
Fascist/other Authoritarian
Libertarian
hmmm, me?
personally, I think free will is overated and that we humans are merely foolish children, desperately searching for a light switch that doesnt exist in a dark room with many stairs.
and you are going to keep me out of this perfect world simply because my views are that of a philistine?
I will ask you again,
CONCEDE!!!
I have one final trump card if this doesnt work, do you really want me to play it?

PS:again, I am sorry for patronizing, I just want to argue with you.
Its a quest to defeat you, and I am on it.

From your description, you seem rather authoritarian. You should do well on the island with the other authoritarians.
how can you put them on your island?
we would conquer as quickly as possible, then create war against each other to gain control and become dictator.
also, I found another card, on your profile it sais you yourself are a socialist...
lay your hand, ante up
[HEADING=1]CONCEDE!![/HEADING]
I would be on the Socialist floating city. The mod delegation on the island would prevent too much fighting, but as factions vying for control is a part of any un-Democratic system, they would most likely allow limited battling for control of the island among the authoritarians.

edit-

Our floating city will also be a staging arena for NeonBob's nuke attacks of the whales. Any invasions of the floating city, and perhaps the Socialists capture the stockpile...
Ok quick question that doesn't seem to even be answered. I fit in none of the categorizes. I like my democracy threw and threw. So where would I fit or would I even be welcome. I'm not a big fan of a socialized government.
Both Libertarianism and Socialism are democratic forms of government, but considering that your main complaint is that you don't like socialized government, that rules out the latter. You would go to the undersea Libertarian paradise.
Hell I'm happy as long as ADAM stays far far away from this utopia. Though as a thought to keep all of the parts of the country together and united there should be a rep from each part, an ambassador if you will, to help make laws that are good for all parts and each part have their own separate government. Much like the state and Federal government is set up in the US. To keep and check and balance system so one doesn't over power the other. Just an idea.
Each society will have a delegation of mods to keep everything running smoothly and in what unison can possibly be between Fascists, Socialists and Libertarians. That is sort of similar. Also, as stated in group, we have declared Jack Thompson and Michael Atkinson enemies of the state, and demanding their extradition to our nation for trial will be an early unifying goal to keep us together through founding.
Agreed. Well oh commander I shall do what ever you need me to do. *salutes*
The only person who should be considered absolute commander is Kuliani. While I may be elected by the Socialists in the floating city to represent them (and may be made a general in NeonBob's whale nuking army) I am no full commander.
Ok fine fearless leader. But as I said, my brain power is at your full disposal. Aww going after the whale scum I see.
Well, NeonBob is a respected Escapian, and his long-fought war with the whales must be considered by our new nation to be in the best interests of us all.
yes yes those damn whales.
To arms against the whale menace!

NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
I now concede that nothing is perfect so that we can move on to more productive conversation about establishing a nearly perfect Escapist nation.
I shall accept that as my win, you put up a valiant fight.
I kinda have an unfair advantage though, I have two people in my head ^_^
hmmm, actually, lets say we both win,
I cannot, in good conscience take such an argument and simply turn it down.
so as a sign of good sportsmanship, I have done 3 things
1.)added you as a friend, I couldnt stop licking my canine tooth I was having so much fun ^w^
2.)joined the group, I want to be the dictator of the authoritist island, my purpose will be none other than anarchy of my own systems(Ive never argued against myself before ^.^)
A battle well fought sir.
 

NoblePhilistineFox

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2012 Wont Happen said:
They are separated because there are various ideas on utopianism, and we are allowing each one to have its own go at it. We are separating ourselves from the rest of the world, but if they feel they would prefer our new nation, they could come along as well. Escapist membership is free of charge.
ahh, but not everyone knows about the escapist.
 

2012 Wont Happen

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NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
They are separated because there are various ideas on utopianism, and we are allowing each one to have its own go at it. We are separating ourselves from the rest of the world, but if they feel they would prefer our new nation, they could come along as well. Escapist membership is free of charge.
ahh, but not everyone knows about the escapist.
Then they are separating themselves by their lack of time spent on the internet. If they simply educated themselves further on the internet, they would surely know of the Escapist.
 

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lilmisspotatoes said:
Can't we just build something like Outer Haven and live happily? This is sounding more and more like Outer Heaven or Zanzibar Land, but for us Escapists. Neither of those ended well.

... then again, neither did Outer Haven. Let's scrap those plans. Can I just build Arsenal Gear for defense?
I don't know what any of these phrases mean. Can you explain them to me?
 

Warwelde

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Thaius said:
I would be slightly more excited if this thread didn't immediately start heading the way of Andrew Ryan...

But yes, I agree. Not sure of the location, I think anywhere will do. It will be important to maybe separate some ideologies, as was said, since our culture at the moment is pushing all sorts of beliefs on all sorts of people. I'm not the biggest fan of relatively new movements that claim they're being oppressed by older ones, only to gain speed and oppress said older movements in return. And that's been happening a lot lately.

Also, each area will be named after an iconic location from various nerdly stories. Star Wars planets, Lord of the Rings cities, Mass Effect locations, Morrowind... all that stuff. I mean, come on, who wouldn't want to live on Degobah street? :D
I salute you, comrade.
 

Lizmichi

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2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Lizmichi said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
I believe it is a difficult thing to find somebody on the Escapist who does not fit the molds of:

Socialist/other Leftist
Fascist/other Authoritarian
Libertarian
hmmm, me?
personally, I think free will is overated and that we humans are merely foolish children, desperately searching for a light switch that doesnt exist in a dark room with many stairs.
and you are going to keep me out of this perfect world simply because my views are that of a philistine?
I will ask you again,
CONCEDE!!!
I have one final trump card if this doesnt work, do you really want me to play it?

PS:again, I am sorry for patronizing, I just want to argue with you.
Its a quest to defeat you, and I am on it.

From your description, you seem rather authoritarian. You should do well on the island with the other authoritarians.
how can you put them on your island?
we would conquer as quickly as possible, then create war against each other to gain control and become dictator.
also, I found another card, on your profile it sais you yourself are a socialist...
lay your hand, ante up
[HEADING=1]CONCEDE!![/HEADING]
I would be on the Socialist floating city. The mod delegation on the island would prevent too much fighting, but as factions vying for control is a part of any un-Democratic system, they would most likely allow limited battling for control of the island among the authoritarians.

edit-

Our floating city will also be a staging arena for NeonBob's nuke attacks of the whales. Any invasions of the floating city, and perhaps the Socialists capture the stockpile...
Ok quick question that doesn't seem to even be answered. I fit in none of the categorizes. I like my democracy threw and threw. So where would I fit or would I even be welcome. I'm not a big fan of a socialized government.
Both Libertarianism and Socialism are democratic forms of government, but considering that your main complaint is that you don't like socialized government, that rules out the latter. You would go to the undersea Libertarian paradise.
Hell I'm happy as long as ADAM stays far far away from this utopia. Though as a thought to keep all of the parts of the country together and united there should be a rep from each part, an ambassador if you will, to help make laws that are good for all parts and each part have their own separate government. Much like the state and Federal government is set up in the US. To keep and check and balance system so one doesn't over power the other. Just an idea.
Each society will have a delegation of mods to keep everything running smoothly and in what unison can possibly be between Fascists, Socialists and Libertarians. That is sort of similar. Also, as stated in group, we have declared Jack Thompson and Michael Atkinson enemies of the state, and demanding their extradition to our nation for trial will be an early unifying goal to keep us together through founding.
Agreed. Well oh commander I shall do what ever you need me to do. *salutes*
The only person who should be considered absolute commander is Kuliani. While I may be elected by the Socialists in the floating city to represent them (and may be made a general in NeonBob's whale nuking army) I am no full commander.
Ok fine fearless leader. But as I said, my brain power is at your full disposal. Aww going after the whale scum I see.
Well, NeonBob is a respected Escapian, and his long-fought war with the whales must be considered by our new nation to be in the best interests of us all.
yes yes those damn whales.
To arms against the whale menace!
Hazza!!
 

Warwelde

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Also, I wanna construct the church! It will be shaped like a giant Wii, with Xbox's out side, as pillars, and a BIG Playstation 3 as an altar! :D
 

NoblePhilistineFox

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lilmisspotatoes said:
Can't we just build something like Outer Haven and live happily? This is sounding more and more like Outer Heaven or Zanzibar Land, but for us Escapists. Neither of those ended well.

... then again, neither did Outer Haven. Let's scrap those plans. Can I just build Arsenal Gear for defense?
you want to build a metal gear?
for shame, if you think this wont work so badly that we need arsenal gear to defend it.
200 RAY's will be good enough ^_^
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
lilmisspotatoes said:
Can't we just build something like Outer Haven and live happily? This is sounding more and more like Outer Heaven or Zanzibar Land, but for us Escapists. Neither of those ended well.

... then again, neither did Outer Haven. Let's scrap those plans. Can I just build Arsenal Gear for defense?
I don't know what any of these phrases mean. Can you explain them to me?
Erm... *shoves glasses up nose in the finest nerd-girl style*

Outer Heaven and Zanzibar Land were two nations created for the absolute freedom of soldiers, during Metal Gear 1 & 2. They were both taken down by Solid Snake.

Outer Haven is a 630-meter-long Arsenal class vehicle in MGS4. It's freaking awesome.

And Arsenal Gear is essentially a gigantic Metal Gear with several pretty intense weapons, as well as something resembling the internet kill-switch that they're proposing.

Thus, my proposal for our Nation is this: I build an enormous Metal Gear, and we take the internet and the world by storm.
 

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NoblePhilistineFox said:
lilmisspotatoes said:
Can't we just build something like Outer Haven and live happily? This is sounding more and more like Outer Heaven or Zanzibar Land, but for us Escapists. Neither of those ended well.

... then again, neither did Outer Haven. Let's scrap those plans. Can I just build Arsenal Gear for defense?
you want to build a metal gear?
for shame, if you think this wont work so badly that we need arsenal gear to defend it.
200 RAY's will be good enough ^_^
Arsenal Gear has the purified hydrogen bomb though. RAY can't fire one.
 

MattRooney06

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Berethond said:
We can take over Samoa. No one will ever notice!

BETTER IDEA!

We build it under the sea. We'll use cool fifties styling and architecture! We'll do cool research forbidden on the surface! After all, is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
yeah cause that worked for bioshock didnt it......after they finished their city under the sea everything went just fine :p
 

NoblePhilistineFox

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lilmisspotatoes said:
NoblePhilistineFox said:
lilmisspotatoes said:
Can't we just build something like Outer Haven and live happily? This is sounding more and more like Outer Heaven or Zanzibar Land, but for us Escapists. Neither of those ended well.

... then again, neither did Outer Haven. Let's scrap those plans. Can I just build Arsenal Gear for defense?
you want to build a metal gear?
for shame, if you think this wont work so badly that we need arsenal gear to defend it.
200 RAY's will be good enough ^_^
Arsenal Gear has the purified hydrogen bomb though. RAY can't fire one.
ahh, but arsenal can be easily hacked as the entire thing is computer based,
whearas with a RAY, there is a pilot who could spot a hack and quickly switch over to manual controls.
 

MattRooney06

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hmmmm...there is loads of free space in wales (although its very mountinus) australia (poisenes) and america (americans)

as for leadership, i think we should have an election in which everyone could put into....damnit i wantto chose who leads me
 

Nouw

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I dibs Leader Of New Zealand. Sounds like an awesome idea that could be misinterpreted.
Also, its safe to assume Grammar Nazis will be part of this nation?