Doctor who. Until they get rid of that absolute cretin of a writer, Steven Moffat, who absolutely butchered the entire point of doctor who in the last series, I will not be watching it again. Shame, because he's done good episodes in the past, but when it comes to writing over arching storylines, and characters, especially female characters, he screws it up time and time again. I hope they get rid of him, I really do.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on what "the point" of Doctor Who is.
And it seems to me you sat thruogh the Davies era of Doctor Who, so I don't know how you can talk about bad story arcs and bad female characters, considering we had four seasons of last-minute ass-pulls and Twilight: Breaking Doctor.
When they killed off L halfway through and tried replacing him with those two twats Near and Mello. I got a couple episodes past L's death and then skipped right ahead to the final episode just to see Kira die for what he did to my favorite character.
That is exactly how it should be watched and be glad you had the sense to do so. The series officially died at the point Ryuk says 'So things are gonna get pretty boring from here on out' and Lights says 'no'
The real answer is YES, oh good god yes and I hate Nier's guts for being such an insufferable little twerp.
My own answer is Bleach, a show so monumentally awful in every conceivable facet yet so confusingly regaled by many I slogged through 70 episodes of dross to see if it gets better later because I needed an explanation as to why so many people adore it. The moment I concluded its popularity stems from idiocy was a later episode when magic vampires show up and get trashed by some boring lady. After it is all done there is no attempt made to explain the actions and motivations of the various villains involved and this whole debacle is consequentially deprived as it is entirely removed from the main plot. The only action the protagonists ever take in any situation is direct assault and they never attempt to concoct a strategy or think about anything. That I am expected to support or even relate to a bunch of block headed nutters like that is baffling. I almost left much earlier when teddy bears and handbags started coming to life as cute s**t.
In one of the episodes, Bianca was a vampire character and begged for help from Dresden.
Meanwhile, your favorite poster Tippy2k2 had just finished reading "Grave Peril" (terrible timing for the show...).
Now I'm not going to spoil anything but if you were a fan of the book series, you know what happens. In the TV Show...Bianca was a good guy. Nope. I'm out TV Show. I can accept a lot of changes to the series but that is one change that I will NOT accept and am appalled that they made such a drastic change.
That was episode "Bad Blood" (episode 5). Honestly, a lot of the changes I understood due to TV being different from books (Bob being the most obvious example). However, that was not a change I could handle considering...
For those that don't remember, in book 3, Bianca turned Susan (Dresden's love interest) into a half-vampire thingy. Changing Bianca from one of my most hated enemies to a good guy bugged the shit out of me.
If so, what was the show in question, and what episode set you off on such an amount of anger that you stopped?
Today, I've stopped watching Star Wars: The Clone Wars. The episode this morning pissed me off to the point where I'm ready to bash my computer.
A jedi is framing Ahsoka for a string of bombings in the Jedi Temple, and the episode is heavily implying that the culprit is Barriss Offee. A pacifist Jedi healer. Who has her own series about her. All of this will be thrown out the window in favor of some bullshit excuse to kill off her character.
Although his first few episodes had been unwatchable (Spider Gollum Maul bullshit), they managed to do something interesting with his return by tying him into the Mandalorian plot, which had been floundering since season 3. The finale where Sidious murders Savage and beats Maul to a pulp was excellent.
But for god's sake, why turn Barriss into a terrorist bomber intent on framing her best friend for the atrocities!?
To keep it very short and simple, discoveries usually go alone the lines of see a problem, investigate a problem, find out what is happened. For example gravity.
"If I drop an item, I believe that it will fall to the ground." (Faith)
"I have dropped the item, and it has fallen to the ground." (Evidence)
"All items fall to the ground, and through observation we can explain this effect." (Explanation / outcome)
Faith is the starting point of science. Maybe faith IS the wrong word to use. Maybe it does have too much of a religious connection. But, it is accurate.
If only I had said that. Like maybe I should have said this "Science doesn't have faith because the denotation doesn't fit, no it fits fine. It doesn't require faith because the connotation doesn't fit." Oh yeah I did. So I will say it again; the denotation fits, the connotation doesn't.
I had a couple of random answers, but I think the only one I can say with absolute certainty was Glee. I got about halfway through season 1 and realized that they had an ensemble cast and wasn't planning on using most of it for character development unless they could be tied into the two love triangles going around. Blech.
Zachary Amaranth said:
mgirl said:
Doctor who. Until they get rid of that absolute cretin of a writer, Steven Moffat, who absolutely butchered the entire point of doctor who in the last series, I will not be watching it again. Shame, because he's done good episodes in the past, but when it comes to writing over arching storylines, and characters, especially female characters, he screws it up time and time again. I hope they get rid of him, I really do.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on what "the point" of Doctor Who is.
And it seems to me you sat thruogh the Davies era of Doctor Who, so I don't know how you can talk about bad story arcs and bad female characters, considering we had four seasons of last-minute ass-pulls and Twilight: Breaking Doctor.
Kinda have to agree with Zachary on this one. I don't necessarily approve of everything Moffat does with Doctor Who, but it is still a substantially better show most of the time than it was under Davies' control.
Also, second season of Sword Art Online. I could have handled it if they had just used different characters, but nope! The strong female protagonist is reduced to a princess in a cage, the main character who went through hell to escape his virtual prison happily dives into another one, and the villain is some pervert who wants to marry a comatose girl and also calls himself the "King of the Fairies" in his spare time. What went wrong?!
If you thought that was bad,you should(not) have seen what came afterwards
basically Kirito's sister falls in love with him,and gets angry at him because he already loves another woman or some shit,i don't know,i wasn't paying attention,also at the end the fairy king guy rips off Asuna's top,how the fuck was that necessary?,i can't describe it very well,but believe me,it gets worse
And if him jumping at another virtual prison was bad,apparently in the novels he jumps into two more
As for me,most series i stop watching aren't memorable enough to mention them here,but i remember the first 30 seconds of the Chaos Head anime turned me off from the rest of it,the opening(as in,the first 30 seconds of animation,not the musical intro) was worse than the vn version WHICH I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND
The episode wan't the problem per say but Avatar: lengend of Korra. I couldn't watch past the 3rd or fourth episode.. the evil dude just pissed me off to no end
If so, what was the show in question, and what episode set you off on such an amount of anger that you stopped?
Today, I've stopped watching Star Wars: The Clone Wars. The episode this morning pissed me off to the point where I'm ready to bash my computer.
A jedi is framing Ahsoka for a string of bombings in the Jedi Temple, and the episode is heavily implying that the culprit is Barriss Offee. A pacifist Jedi healer. Who has her own series about her. All of this will be thrown out the window in favor of some bullshit excuse to kill off her character.
You sure about that? Have they gone out into the open and said it? Because in my experience if a show heavily implies that someone is a culprit, it's really just a Red Herring (See Assassin's Creed Brotherhood). Also I'm not a sure Star Wars fan, but I'm pretty sure she doesn't get killed until Order 66.
namely the episode when they traveled so far into the future that the time ended and a new universe started. it wasn't the same universe. the other characters weren't the same people. the original Leela had died alone and miserable billions of years ago. and no one seems to acknowledge that fact.
i may be reading too much into it but I couldn't get past that knowledge.
Criminal Minds. My very first problem was Mandy Patinkin leaving, as I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally liked his character. Next was the bull crap about Prentiss being dead but really not dead and then coming back and then immediately leaving the show. Then I watched the first episode of season 8 and decided I'd had enough.
I tried watching this anime called Revolutionary Girl Utena over a year ago and it was so ridiculous... Some girl in school talks to this girl, gets challenged to a duel, shows up at this forest, and sees a winding staircase that seems to go up forever, runs up the stairs to this platform, where some guy duels her.
First episode.
Not once does she question anything.
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy. I couldn't watch anymore. I did start the second episode but it was too much.
Arcana Famiglia. I never got past ep 1 and have no desire to try.
The main character is a girl who looks to be about 14 years old. Her douche-nozzle of a father decied he need to find his Tsundere tomboy of a daughter a man by hosting a tournament where her hand in marrage is the prize. When she objects he offers her a change to fight him, which she looses pretty hard. the rest of the episode consisted of characters, most of whom were grown-ass men, thinking of how awesome it would be to marry, and therefore bang, this 14 year old looking girl. Yes the girl herself was allowed to compete for the right to marry no one and two of the male characters were set up as 'good guys' who said they would give her an option if they won but it still doesn't detract from the creepiness of it all.
Now I've put up with some creepy stuff in anime before (like the over-sexualization of Kirito's middle school aged little sister), but something about the combination of creepiness and misogyny in Arcana Famiglia was pretty close to revolting. And this is coming from a 23 year old single anime fan, their target audience.
Also, My Little Pony.
My best friend IRL is a huge brony so I tried the first three eps and a fourth musical one of his suggestion (something about wrapping up winter). While i see where someone could get into the show very easily, to me it reeked of fairly good Saturday morning kid's show. If i were in the 6th grade it might have been up my alley but now it just feels childish and simple. If i want moral teachings i can get some Kant, St. Aquinas, or one of the millions of other philosophers and theologians who taught past the 3rd grade level. The show just can't live up to the hype imo.
If so, what was the show in question, and what episode set you off on such an amount of anger that you stopped?
Today, I've stopped watching Star Wars: The Clone Wars. The episode this morning pissed me off to the point where I'm ready to bash my computer.
A jedi is framing Ahsoka for a string of bombings in the Jedi Temple, and the episode is heavily implying that the culprit is Barriss Offee. A pacifist Jedi healer. Who has her own series about her. All of this will be thrown out the window in favor of some bullshit excuse to kill off her character.
You sure about that? Have they gone out into the open and said it? Because in my experience if a show heavily implies that someone is a culprit, it's really just a Red Herring (See Assassin's Creed Brotherhood). Also I'm not a sure Star Wars fan, but I'm pretty sure she doesn't get killed until Order 66.
Filoni all but confirms it, and a leaked image of next weeks episode seals the deal.
Barriss's new non hooded character model was showcased these past two episodes, and there she is fighting Anakin.
Trashing continuity is nothing new for The Clone Wars, but character assassination is probably even worse in the long run. Since we never see Barriss get killed in the movies, obviously the only solution is to kill her off in the TCW cartoon. Never mind that tie in material for Revenge of the Sith already showed her being killed.
Dude, it's Sean Bean. He has never survived to the end of anything he has been in.
The shows I quit; Scrubs and Bones. Scrubs sometime during season 3 (when J.D was starting his transformation from intelligent young doctor to effeminate man-child). As for Bones, a few episodes in to series 4 where everyone was obvious about their Mary Sue t-shirts.
If so, what was the show in question, and what episode set you off on such an amount of anger that you stopped?
Today, I've stopped watching Star Wars: The Clone Wars. The episode this morning pissed me off to the point where I'm ready to bash my computer.
A jedi is framing Ahsoka for a string of bombings in the Jedi Temple, and the episode is heavily implying that the culprit is Barriss Offee. A pacifist Jedi healer. Who has her own series about her. All of this will be thrown out the window in favor of some bullshit excuse to kill off her character.
You sure about that? Have they gone out into the open and said it? Because in my experience if a show heavily implies that someone is a culprit, it's really just a Red Herring (See Assassin's Creed Brotherhood). Also I'm not a sure Star Wars fan, but I'm pretty sure she doesn't get killed until Order 66.
Filoni all but confirms it, and a leaked image of next weeks episode seals the deal.
Barriss's new non hooded character model was showcased these past two episodes, and there she is fighting Anakin.
Trashing continuity is nothing new for The Clone Wars, but character assassination is probably even worse in the long run. Since we never see Barriss get killed in the movies, obviously the only solution is to kill her off in the TCW cartoon. Never mind that tie in material for Revenge of the Sith already showed her being killed.
I have no idea what that image is supposed to be, but it looks a little too narrow to be anything humanoid like Bariss. And dual curved red lightsabers? Wasn't that Ventress' calling card? Though to be fair I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, so maybe I should keep my mouth shut.
I'm just saying, you should at the very least check in to make sure that you weren't mistaken.
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