Extra Punctuation: BAFTAs Are Bollocks
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artistic went to GOW3? i would have pegged LIMBO for this (lacking a PS3, or friends with PS3's due to liking to play games instead of having originally bought a blu-ray player that happened to play a few games, i havent played it but i did try GOW 1 and have seen 2)
GAME went to COD BLOPS?!? seriously, i found it horrible with a huge dash of sick-making.
well...at least creed got props for its "runny, jumping, stabby" bits if nothing else
GAME went to COD BLOPS?!? seriously, i found it horrible with a huge dash of sick-making.
well...at least creed got props for its "runny, jumping, stabby" bits if nothing else
Or realizing that gamers tastes are reaching all new levels of suckitude.Nomanslander said:
Wait, I apologize.
I meant to politely say-
People with recently acquired gaming tastes tend to prefer a low-brow type of gaming.
There, much much better.
BlOps winning a BAFTA is equivalent to Fast and Furious taking best picture. But then, you let 12yr olds vote for their favorite game, so naturally anything with an 18BBFC is going to get nominated (and FIFA, for being an industry-beating behemoth-like unstoppable mass every year since it became better than Pro Evo. Seriously, in the UK, the release schedule mysteriously clears for the week of FIFAs launch)
Bwahaha! I cant tell whats even funnier, Black Ops winning or everyone crying about it.
I must admit even though I'm a major CoD fan I still thought it doesn't deserve that many nominations. As for the amount of complaining and mild hate it generating here, its a peoples choice award, who didn't see this coming or at least had a hunch. In the end even though I don't think it deserved it I'm still glad Black Ops won an award. Honestly I'm probably one of the few people here who gets happy when CoD wins something.(call me a mindless fanboy all you want as long as I still enjoy them your insults mean nothing to me)
I must admit even though I'm a major CoD fan I still thought it doesn't deserve that many nominations. As for the amount of complaining and mild hate it generating here, its a peoples choice award, who didn't see this coming or at least had a hunch. In the end even though I don't think it deserved it I'm still glad Black Ops won an award. Honestly I'm probably one of the few people here who gets happy when CoD wins something.(call me a mindless fanboy all you want as long as I still enjoy them your insults mean nothing to me)
I feel like I'm the only one who agrees with you on the whole Super Mario Galaxy 2 expansion pack/sequel thing. I still think the game is amazing, and I'm more than glad to have played it. But I seem to be the only one I know who believes that. But regardless, Super Mario Galaxy 2 being nominated for innovation is bullcrap. Did it do ANYTHING innovative? Not that you need to be innovative to be good, but come on.
Here's a question: Why was FIFA 11 nominated for ANYTHING? Best sports game I could understand, but Game of the Year? Don't misunderstand me, as far as soccer sims go this is probably as good as they're going to get, but did it really need to be nominated for GotY? I know this is a british award show and soccer is to them what football (that is to say American Football) is to us here in the States, but could it have been good enough to get GotY? No, I say!
That said on the "Bioware Face" that the good Yahtzee commented on in Bioware adventure/RPGs...eh, maybe a little. I see what you're getting at, how the characters themselves stand completely still and maybe wobble back and forth (or if they're really advanced, moving their arms/hands) while the line is being spat out and usually have an almost deadpan expression on their faces, but it's nothing I really pay that much attention to.
That said on the "Bioware Face" that the good Yahtzee commented on in Bioware adventure/RPGs...eh, maybe a little. I see what you're getting at, how the characters themselves stand completely still and maybe wobble back and forth (or if they're really advanced, moving their arms/hands) while the line is being spat out and usually have an almost deadpan expression on their faces, but it's nothing I really pay that much attention to.
It bugs me a bit when yahtzee rips on Bioware for their NPC conversations. They're not THAT bad, yes they move a bit too much (especially Revan in KOTOR and Shepard in ME) but they at least do something. It may be true that their movements push them a bit more into the uncanny valley, but FUCKING HELL!The Great JT said:
Bethesda is a far worse criminal for NPCs. Their eyes fix completely on you, uncanny valley face, sometimes they stare at you, but their eyes are looking slightly off, or their head is fixed turning somwhere else and the body turns towards you without the head. Freaky!
Bioware might not be the best, but it's far from the worst...
Why is it that the same nominees were in every single category, even ones that they had no business being in. I mean CoD for action I understand, but artistic achievement?
CoD 4, maybe, but not Blops. Blops was never meant to be enjoyed as high art.
Also, why are they all generic mainstream FPSs? Is that honestly all there was?
Fine games to be sure, but not worthy of any special accolades.
And while Yahtzee pointed out the hypocrisy of having Mario Galaxy 2 nominated for innovation, I'll also point out that Brotherhood was an expansion pack, Halo: Reach was on the same engine as 3, and Blops uses exactly the same controls, design, lettering and objective markers as previous Modern Warfare games.
Final thesis: This the most dissapointed I've been in awards since the Oscars. But here's the thing- it seems to me that the Oscars go to arty movies no-one liked, while great mainstream films are snubbed from all directions, videogame awards have the opposite problem, i.e. arty independent games are completely ignored in favor of pure entertainment mainstream titles with no soul.
CoD 4, maybe, but not Blops. Blops was never meant to be enjoyed as high art.
Also, why are they all generic mainstream FPSs? Is that honestly all there was?
Fine games to be sure, but not worthy of any special accolades.
And while Yahtzee pointed out the hypocrisy of having Mario Galaxy 2 nominated for innovation, I'll also point out that Brotherhood was an expansion pack, Halo: Reach was on the same engine as 3, and Blops uses exactly the same controls, design, lettering and objective markers as previous Modern Warfare games.
Final thesis: This the most dissapointed I've been in awards since the Oscars. But here's the thing- it seems to me that the Oscars go to arty movies no-one liked, while great mainstream films are snubbed from all directions, videogame awards have the opposite problem, i.e. arty independent games are completely ignored in favor of pure entertainment mainstream titles with no soul.
Right, because Yahtzee didn't also, in the same article, and with more vehemence than he ever directed towards MG2, berate the fact that CoD was the viewer's choice for best game, despite being bland garbage directed at gun-porn enthusiasts and people with non-discriminating tastes.Lordofthesuplex said:
I loved Mario Galaxy, it made me fall in love with Mario games all over again. Then I played Mario Galaxy 2 and it almost made me hate the first one- not because it was bad, but because it was the same good, presented in a less compelling way, and priced at an additional $60.
Yahtzee never criticized MG2 for being bad, he criticized the BAFTAs for putting an expansion pack in a category for most innovative. You admit it was an expansion pack in your post, so don't claim it had any actual innovation.
I love Nintendo too, but you will never hear me jump to its defense purely on principle.
Agreed. The fact is, I don't appreciate heavily scripted story lines - it undermines the concept of 'interactive medium' as it puts us on arbitrarily imposed rails. New Vegas managed to be rather well-written even after being so open-ended - efforts like that should be rewarded.GrizzlerBorno said:
Okay, why did Black Ops get nominated for Best Story? I actually liked that game, but seriously...I have never played a game with a worse story and challenge you to think of one.
I would've liked to have seen a best story nominee for red dead redemption instead of black ops.
Plus, I'd also really like to see a category for best voice acting/performance in a game.
Plus, I'd also really like to see a category for best voice acting/performance in a game.
GAME award (voted on by the public)
Winner: COD Blops
"voted on by the public" <- That's your problem right there, seriously you add that and Black-Ops as a nominee you might as well a) put EVERY nominee as Black-Ops or b) threaten to assassinate anyone who votes for Black-Ops otherwise there's no doubt that it'll be the extremely-disputed winner.
Also, Black-Ops for story? Almost as dumb as Sgt. Wood from the same game winning "Best Character of the Year" at the Spike VGA's last year. Against Kratos, and Ezio....well let's just say I've long since given up on the thought of the majority of gamers having more intelligence than a half-eaten donut.
Winner: COD Blops
"voted on by the public" <- That's your problem right there, seriously you add that and Black-Ops as a nominee you might as well a) put EVERY nominee as Black-Ops or b) threaten to assassinate anyone who votes for Black-Ops otherwise there's no doubt that it'll be the extremely-disputed winner.
Also, Black-Ops for story? Almost as dumb as Sgt. Wood from the same game winning "Best Character of the Year" at the Spike VGA's last year. Against Kratos, and Ezio....well let's just say I've long since given up on the thought of the majority of gamers having more intelligence than a half-eaten donut.
