"Failed" sequels.

[Daedalus1942]

I'd say Devil May Cry 2, but we all know it NEVER HAPPENED and thank goodness right?

I don't get people... When I was younger, everyone raved about it, and I was addicted to DMC2 ( completed it on the hardest setting just before the invincibility mode, then i gave up). I quite liked Devil May cry 2 and even though there were a few plotholes and essentially the 2nd disc where you play as the girl was the exact same game, but I just don't understand why people hated it. There are far worse games out there and I commend the studio for trying something different and taking it out of a gothic setting to try an urban one. In my opinion 3 was the worst of the lot (though I'm yet to play 4), but i absolutely hated everything about 3. I don't understand everybody's reason for hating 2. Is it just a case of someone hated it and everybody decided they'd jump on the bandwagon? Please explain to me your reasobns for hating it?
My main gripe is how annoyingly difficult they made some of the new enemies to hit in combat.

 

[Snotnarok]

I'd say Devil May Cry 2, but we all know it NEVER HAPPENED and thank goodness right?

I don't get people... When I was younger, everyone raved about it, and I was addicted to DMC2 ( completed it on the hardest setting just before the invincibility mode, then i gave up). I quite liked Devil May cry 2 and even though there were a few plotholes and essentially the 2nd disc where you play as the girl was the exact same game, but I just don't understand why people hated it. There are far worse games out there and I commend the studio for trying something different and taking it out of a gothic setting to try an urban one. In my opinion 3 was the worst of the lot (though I'm yet to play 4), but i absolutely hated everything about 3. I don't understand everybody's reason for hating 2. Is it just a case of someone hated it and everybody decided they'd jump on the bandwagon? Please explain to me your reasobns for hating it?
My main gripe is how annoyingly difficult they made some of the new enemies to hit in combat.

Because the enemies were crap, Dante was dumbed down to the point of nausea, the combat was simplified. I personally hated it, I beat it on every difficulty mode without using a single healing star or dying. Compared to the other DMCs I find it to be beyond the worst one. It's not about a group mentality, I hated it before I found out people disliked it as much as I did. I'm not asking for it to be insanely difficult but SOME challenge adds to the fun. 3 was great, 1 was great 4 was half a game copy pasted with a really bad character added. But this is all my feelings, if you liked it then cool but I simply don't.

 

[Terry576]

Can I have a rant about how Sonic is the cheapest character ever?
No? Damn.

My failed sequel was FFTA2. The laws were shot to HELL, and Luso was just a crappy carbon copy of Marche, who was epic, and had y'know flaws, and character development.

Seems fitting, since FFTA was a shit sequel to the amazing FFT. And personally I found FFTA2 less stupid than FFTA, but yes Luso was a giant waste of space as main character.

My vote for failed sequels is Bioshock 2 and KOTOR 2. Both for similar reasons. Improved gameplay mechanics, but mostly tossed everything that made the first game great out the window. Not as severely with KOTOR2, it's passable unlike Bioshock 2, just nowhere near as good as the first.

Conversely sequels that are so good it's goddam hard to go back to the originals, Mass Effect 2 and Left 4 Dead 2. (Okay, barring Rochelle)

But you're forgetting that I never got to play FFT, until it came out for the PSP, and I'd actually y'know, heard of it. By then I'd gotten FFTA.

And why do you hate KOTOR2? I kinda liked it MORE then KOTOR, possibly because I could actually use the Force since the start, rather than having to WAIT HALF THE GAME. :>

 

[I Love Lamp]

Onimusha 4 Dawn of Dreams

as much as i tried to get into it, i just could'nt do it. And the story was so full of cheese and cliche (even for the Onimusha series) that i had to skip all dialogue parts in order to avoid stabbing somthing cute and innocent

 

[InsomniJack]

How about Guitar Hero? I felt like they were all improvements up until 3, then World Tour fucked it up and begun the reign of shitty setlists we've seen up until now. The only thing World Tour got right was letting us play the entire song on vs on different difficulties.

I agree. When Harmonix left the project, the series never really recovered. They tried really hard with Guitar Hero III, but then they went all out with the "Hero" aspect of it for the rest of the series, by making the charts as difficult as they could be allowed. No offense to other rhythm game players, but I don't play for the challenge. I play to perform my favorite songs.

Sure, they get a few things right with their deep pockets by letting us play the stuff that Rock Band doesn't have, and right from the get-go. But just so there's no confusion: I don't like Children of Bodom. And neither do my friends who also play these games. So... yeah.

 

[Siuki]

All of them.

Even Half Life 2, Uncharted 2, and the possible Starcraft 2?

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

you should ask us what GOOD sequels are, at least then it'll be a challenge to actually give an answer.

But anyway; Guitar FUCKING Hero, Sonic, Spiderman (except no. 2), Silent Hill (current games, not Shattered Memories), I'll stop now.

But my philosophy on sequels is: Judge it by its own merits, THEN compare it to its Predecessor.

 

[Whytewulf]

I agree... It is what Fable 1 should have been. It's a tease of a game, so close.. yet...

Oh and I agree about Master of Orion III. I played II until I.. well until I stopped, but that was a long time.

I wouldn't Modern Warefar2 was a failure, but it could have been better... Geez, I would have been happy with a 1 second spawn no death rule. Geez, spawn, die gets old with pavelows and attack copters blowing you up trying to even get somewhere.. Trying to shoot them down with a Javelin.. HA.. oh I digress..

 

[Nomanslander]

Bioshock 2 failed in pretty much every aspect. While I get the design document claim that rapture should've been big enough for more than one story, the story of bioshock 1 introduced, fully fleshed out, and then perfectly resolved every situation in rapture.

Stop believing in every Yahtzee video you see, BS2 is as good as any video game sequel can get, hell I had more fun playing that than the first game, and to be honest BS1 ending and resolution was pretty dumb...0o

 

[Tazz Azreal]

well curently playing bioshock 2 i would not call it "failed" its more or so an emotional heart-string puller, that is still a good game, its more or so bioshock but your a big daddy that can jump and new weapons, so far thats the only difference but im only on level 2 so theres more or less new suprises to be had (i hope)

 

[apelsz]

Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire failed in comparison to Gold and Silver. They were good games, but just... not great.

 

[Daedalus1942]

I'd say Devil May Cry 2, but we all know it NEVER HAPPENED and thank goodness right?

I don't get people... When I was younger, everyone raved about it, and I was addicted to DMC2 ( completed it on the hardest setting just before the invincibility mode, then i gave up). I quite liked Devil May cry 2 and even though there were a few plotholes and essentially the 2nd disc where you play as the girl was the exact same game, but I just don't understand why people hated it. There are far worse games out there and I commend the studio for trying something different and taking it out of a gothic setting to try an urban one. In my opinion 3 was the worst of the lot (though I'm yet to play 4), but i absolutely hated everything about 3. I don't understand everybody's reason for hating 2. Is it just a case of someone hated it and everybody decided they'd jump on the bandwagon? Please explain to me your reasobns for hating it?
My main gripe is how annoyingly difficult they made some of the new enemies to hit in combat.

Because the enemies were crap, Dante was dumbed down to the point of nausea, the combat was simplified. I personally hated it, I beat it on every difficulty mode without using a single healing star or dying. Compared to the other DMCs I find it to be beyond the worst one. It's not about a group mentality, I hated it before I found out people disliked it as much as I did. I'm not asking for it to be insanely difficult but SOME challenge adds to the fun. 3 was great, 1 was great 4 was half a game copy pasted with a really bad character added. But this is all my feelings, if you liked it then cool but I simply don't.

Interesting. I had the complete opposite experience to you. I found 2 to be at times frustratingly hard, whereas the first game I didn't have too much trouble on the hardest setting.

 

[Comma-Kazie]

I would have to go with FEAR 2. The first game set up so much for Monolith to work with, and they totally screwed it up. I would prefer to consider Vivendi's expansions canon rather than the horrific mess that was Project Origin.

 

[Dark Angel Warlord]

metal gear 2 sucked!!!!! u couldnt even play snake u got some whiny emo kid ...
tomb raider sequels
doom3
final fantasy x2 i felt somethign was missing

 

[Daedalus1942]

Modern Warfare 2 isn't a fail to most people but to me it was a personal disappointment.

I've spent maybe 6 hours on it and the majortiy of that was the single player campaign.
Not really much to say after the single player. Apart from spec ops, it's the same fucking game.
Definately a failed sequel imo.

 

[SimuLord]

I've lost count of the number of games I own with a number at the end of the title. Six of my top ten favorite games are sequels either directly or as part of a franchise (Rome: Total War, Alpha Centauri, Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout 3, and Hearts of Iron 2.)

 

[Birdman1604]

The Prince of Persia game on the 360, picked it up used for $15 because of the name alone but wow... it just doesn't compare to the earlier ones.

 

[AyaReiko]

Master of Orion III

I tried so hard to like that game. Really I did. But the negotiations between races were mind-numbing, the planet settling was mediocre at best, especially when you could supposedly set up a planet any way you wanted, and then the computer would just "fix" it for you because apparently you're stupid at setting up planets.

The best part of the game was the fact that you could basically design your own ships with your imperial budget, but the long-range weapons were so effective that the space battles would start off with ships as tiny dots, and by the time they zoomed close enough to see some detail, the battle was already over. What a waste.

Game got sold back to ElBo within weeks, and only because it was that long before I went back for another game.

Damn you beat me to it. Thank God for GalCiv.

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Not sure if it counts, but even after a decade, Final Fantasy 8 still holds a special spot in my heart as on of the worst games I have ever played. I hated the characters, I really hated the story, and it was way too easy to exploit the game mechanics to make the game piss easy.

 

[Flight]

I consider most modern Sonic the Hedgehog games to be failed sequels, so to speak. Resident Evil 5 was enjoyable, but nowhere near as much as Resident Evil 4 was (and they got rid of the inventory system in 4, too, as well as making Sheva useless on the harder difficulties.).