"Failed" sequels.

[Snotnarok]

I'd say Devil May Cry 2, but we all know it NEVER HAPPENED and thank goodness right?

I don't get people... When I was younger, everyone raved about it, and I was addicted to DMC2 ( completed it on the hardest setting just before the invincibility mode, then i gave up). I quite liked Devil May cry 2 and even though there were a few plotholes and essentially the 2nd disc where you play as the girl was the exact same game, but I just don't understand why people hated it. There are far worse games out there and I commend the studio for trying something different and taking it out of a gothic setting to try an urban one. In my opinion 3 was the worst of the lot (though I'm yet to play 4), but i absolutely hated everything about 3. I don't understand everybody's reason for hating 2. Is it just a case of someone hated it and everybody decided they'd jump on the bandwagon? Please explain to me your reasobns for hating it?
My main gripe is how annoyingly difficult they made some of the new enemies to hit in combat.

Because the enemies were crap, Dante was dumbed down to the point of nausea, the combat was simplified. I personally hated it, I beat it on every difficulty mode without using a single healing star or dying. Compared to the other DMCs I find it to be beyond the worst one. It's not about a group mentality, I hated it before I found out people disliked it as much as I did. I'm not asking for it to be insanely difficult but SOME challenge adds to the fun. 3 was great, 1 was great 4 was half a game copy pasted with a really bad character added. But this is all my feelings, if you liked it then cool but I simply don't.

Interesting. I had the complete opposite experience to you. I found 2 to be at times frustratingly hard, whereas the first game I didn't have too much trouble on the hardest setting.

Some of the enemies were obnoxious, I wouldn't call them hard. Like the wolves ...ung I think I just gave myself a headache.

Either way, it's just my opinion, don't let it get to you so much. Who gives a crap what I think, it's about what you want man. I hear Sonic Unleashed sucks all the time, I happen to enjoy the Day levels a lot, while the night levels are garbage, the day levels are a lot of fun to me. But meh whatever people think ya know?

 

[Raptorace18]

Resistance 2, Resistance 2 and Resistance 2.

OH! Also Resistance 2. As well as Resistance 2.

Did I mention Resistance 2?

The "boss" fight in the Chicago level was about the most piss poor challenge in gaming history. The only thing that made it hard was a poorly defined staircase.

On the other hand I think the online is pretty good/

 

[Daedalus1942]

I'd say Devil May Cry 2, but we all know it NEVER HAPPENED and thank goodness right?

I don't get people... When I was younger, everyone raved about it, and I was addicted to DMC2 ( completed it on the hardest setting just before the invincibility mode, then i gave up). I quite liked Devil May cry 2 and even though there were a few plotholes and essentially the 2nd disc where you play as the girl was the exact same game, but I just don't understand why people hated it. There are far worse games out there and I commend the studio for trying something different and taking it out of a gothic setting to try an urban one. In my opinion 3 was the worst of the lot (though I'm yet to play 4), but i absolutely hated everything about 3. I don't understand everybody's reason for hating 2. Is it just a case of someone hated it and everybody decided they'd jump on the bandwagon? Please explain to me your reasobns for hating it?
My main gripe is how annoyingly difficult they made some of the new enemies to hit in combat.

Because the enemies were crap, Dante was dumbed down to the point of nausea, the combat was simplified. I personally hated it, I beat it on every difficulty mode without using a single healing star or dying. Compared to the other DMCs I find it to be beyond the worst one. It's not about a group mentality, I hated it before I found out people disliked it as much as I did. I'm not asking for it to be insanely difficult but SOME challenge adds to the fun. 3 was great, 1 was great 4 was half a game copy pasted with a really bad character added. But this is all my feelings, if you liked it then cool but I simply don't.

Interesting. I had the complete opposite experience to you. I found 2 to be at times frustratingly hard, whereas the first game I didn't have too much trouble on the hardest setting.

Some of the enemies were obnoxious, I wouldn't call them hard. Like the wolves ...ung I think I just gave myself a headache.

Either way, it's just my opinion, don't let it get to you so much. Who gives a crap what I think, it's about what you want man. I hear Sonic Unleashed sucks all the time, I happen to enjoy the Day levels a lot, while the night levels are garbage, the day levels are a lot of fun to me. But meh whatever people think ya know?

I loved 06 apart from the severe framerate slowdown issues it had, but It only took me a day to complete. I've seen people struggle to finish it in a weak due to cheap deaths. I still to this day don't know why I had such a smooth runthrough.
I also liked unleashed alot, during the day and I don't hate the night levels apart from that one that's completely tightrope walking. Sonic team must have hired masochists to work on that level.
I also enjoyed Haze, while not the "Halo Killer" it was touted to be, I quite liked the story and for it's time the graphics were top notch. Also, it did alot of things that no other shooter has ever done, which were quite innovative and original, like playing dead for instance I thought worked decently. Don't get me wrong it was a tad broken, you could play dead , but it took so long to get back up that nine times out of ten the enemy saw you and blasted you before you could get on your feet in time to give them a gut full of shotgun barrels.

 

[Daefaron]

Anyone who mentions KOTOR 2 gets their throat slit by me.

Sadly someone will still say it, and I will just sit here and keep enjoying KOTOR 2 regardless.

Seriously it may be people's opinion, but I don't understand how people keep praising only the first one when the second one had far better and improved gameplay as well as a much deeper story and universe.

KOTOR 2 is my favourite Star Wars game, period. The ending is shot to hell, but that is no longer an issue. Do you have the PC version? Here's a mod that will give you the proper KOTOR 2 experience.

The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod.
http://knightsoftheoldrepublic.filefront.com/file/TSL_Restored_Content_Mod;111657

Trust me, this mod is worth it. The game is infinitely superior, and is a worthy competitor with the first game.

Wait, they finally got the restored content mod finished and released?

That might just bump KotOR II from a game I enjoyed but didn't like or play as much as the first (a "failed" sequel?) to a game I love. Will have to try it out.

 

[Blackadder51]

Killzone 2

I found number one to be way more fun

 

[tobi the good boy]

kotor 2

 

[Zersy]

Resistance 2, Resistance 2 and Resistance 2.

OH! Also Resistance 2. As well as Resistance 2.

Did I mention Resistance 2?

Let me Back that up for you.

It totally un did the gameplay style and feel of the last one.
It just copied other shooters "COD" to make it more media noticable.
It had a shit ending.
Multiplayer was full of annoying things.

Though you have to admit, we all liked the Co-Op.

How in the hell did Resistance 2 have a shit ending? It was brilliant and realistically the story couldn't have gone any other way considering the rest of the flow of the story.
It barely copied anything from Call of Cuty 4, considering they were both being developed at the same time, and were released roughly around the same time. How could they have copied anything? If anything resistance 2 felt way more similar to Killzone two, so maybe they ripped some things off the first Killzone.
But, if you think that they ripped things from the Call of duty series, maybe you should think back to a well known EA franchise called Battlefield (pick a number). Call of duty ripped off Battlefield and to a lesser extent counter-strike. To say R2 ripped off Call of duty is just ludicrous.
it expanded well on the first game and is far superiour in nearly every single way, had interesting setpieces, great graphics and difficult enemies.
If it's a failed sequel, how do you explain the shining review nearly every major game site gave it?
http://au.gamespot.com/ps3/action/resistance2/index.html?tag=result;title;0
http://au.ps3.ign.com/objects/142/14211237.html
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/game.php?id=10015
http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/944521-resistance-2/index.html
http://au.ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/resistance-2/
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/resistance2?q=resistance%202
http://ps3.gamezone.com/gamesell/p34508.htm
I'm pretty sure I've made my point...

But the whole Vibe and feel of the last game was gone, The great quadrant health system was gone, the frantic run and gun play style turned into a simple "Shoot them, take damage, wait a lil, get back to shooting" , the 8 carriable weapon system was ditched for a 2 weapon system, all the weapons lost thier "Awesome" factor by becoming overly balanced (In R1 the weapons all seemed to have one main use that made them the best weapon for given job while in R2 you just chose which ever you wanted and it wouldn't really matter) , the enimies were made less imtimidating with the AI and stat redone and it used the "Press L1 to look down sight" system that Call of Duty started.

The point of a sequel is to continue the "feeling" of the past game not totally change and evolve it to the point where you have 2 seperate games with the same character models.

This is just my opinion, (Though I'll admit the ending was only bad because of the huge cliff hanger the rest of it had a nice "wow" effect) Resistance 2 was indeed a huge improvement from Resistance 1 as a closing point to re assure that I don't hate it just I wished they stuck to what made resistance 1 so good.

 

[Super Toast]

Any Pokemon game after Silver/Gold.

 

[Snotnarok]

I'd say Devil May Cry 2, but we all know it NEVER HAPPENED and thank goodness right?

I don't get people... When I was younger, everyone raved about it, and I was addicted to DMC2 ( completed it on the hardest setting just before the invincibility mode, then i gave up). I quite liked Devil May cry 2 and even though there were a few plotholes and essentially the 2nd disc where you play as the girl was the exact same game, but I just don't understand why people hated it. There are far worse games out there and I commend the studio for trying something different and taking it out of a gothic setting to try an urban one. In my opinion 3 was the worst of the lot (though I'm yet to play 4), but i absolutely hated everything about 3. I don't understand everybody's reason for hating 2. Is it just a case of someone hated it and everybody decided they'd jump on the bandwagon? Please explain to me your reasobns for hating it?
My main gripe is how annoyingly difficult they made some of the new enemies to hit in combat.

Because the enemies were crap, Dante was dumbed down to the point of nausea, the combat was simplified. I personally hated it, I beat it on every difficulty mode without using a single healing star or dying. Compared to the other DMCs I find it to be beyond the worst one. It's not about a group mentality, I hated it before I found out people disliked it as much as I did. I'm not asking for it to be insanely difficult but SOME challenge adds to the fun. 3 was great, 1 was great 4 was half a game copy pasted with a really bad character added. But this is all my feelings, if you liked it then cool but I simply don't.

Interesting. I had the complete opposite experience to you. I found 2 to be at times frustratingly hard, whereas the first game I didn't have too much trouble on the hardest setting.

Some of the enemies were obnoxious, I wouldn't call them hard. Like the wolves ...ung I think I just gave myself a headache.

Either way, it's just my opinion, don't let it get to you so much. Who gives a crap what I think, it's about what you want man. I hear Sonic Unleashed sucks all the time, I happen to enjoy the Day levels a lot, while the night levels are garbage, the day levels are a lot of fun to me. But meh whatever people think ya know?

I loved 06 apart from the severe framerate slowdown issues it had, but It only took me a day to complete. I've seen people struggle to finish it in a weak due to cheap deaths. I still to this day don't know why I had such a smooth runthrough.
I also liked unleashed alot, during the day and I don't hate the night levels apart from that one that's completely tightrope walking. Sonic team must have hired masochists to work on that level.
I also enjoyed Haze, while not the "Halo Killer" it was touted to be, I quite liked the story and for it's time the graphics were top notch. Also, it did alot of things that no other shooter has ever done, which were quite innovative and original, like playing dead for instance I thought worked decently. Don't get me wrong it was a tad broken, you could play dead , but it took so long to get back up that nine times out of ten the enemy saw you and blasted you before you could get on your feet in time to give them a gut full of shotgun barrels.

I hated Sonic 06! Haha I fell through the world SO many times in that game, or my homing attack would fly me off a cliff instead of at the enemy I was near. I wanted to like it but it was just slow and clunky for me.

I never played Haze, I was tempted as it was made by the timesplitters creators but they even didn't like the game. It got taken over pretty much and the whole game ruined

 

[Srdjan]

Black and White 2...

 

[Nomanslander]

Bioshock 2 failed in pretty much every aspect. While I get the design document claim that rapture should've been big enough for more than one story, the story of bioshock 1 introduced, fully fleshed out, and then perfectly resolved every situation in rapture.

Stop believing in every Yahtzee video you see, BS2 is as good as any video game sequel can get, hell I had more fun playing that than the first game, and to be honest BS1 ending and resolution was pretty dumb...0o

Oh I played it before that zp.

Its okay, I know intelligent thought is scary.

What's scary is you really think it's intelligent...XP

Wait a sec, aren't you the guy that I had a comment on Mass Effect and Empire Strikes back earlier today? Well, you seemed to know what you're talking about then, but honestly are you telling me that you think that M. Night Shyamalan twist was clever?

0o

 

[L3m0n_L1m3]

Modern Warfare 2.

God, I hate that game.

 

[Daedalus1942]

Resistance 2, Resistance 2 and Resistance 2.

OH! Also Resistance 2. As well as Resistance 2.

Did I mention Resistance 2?

Let me Back that up for you.

It totally un did the gameplay style and feel of the last one.
It just copied other shooters "COD" to make it more media noticable.
It had a shit ending.
Multiplayer was full of annoying things.

Though you have to admit, we all liked the Co-Op.

How in the hell did Resistance 2 have a shit ending? It was brilliant and realistically the story couldn't have gone any other way considering the rest of the flow of the story.
It barely copied anything from Call of Cuty 4, considering they were both being developed at the same time, and were released roughly around the same time. How could they have copied anything? If anything resistance 2 felt way more similar to Killzone two, so maybe they ripped some things off the first Killzone.
But, if you think that they ripped things from the Call of duty series, maybe you should think back to a well known EA franchise called Battlefield (pick a number). Call of duty ripped off Battlefield and to a lesser extent counter-strike. To say R2 ripped off Call of duty is just ludicrous.
it expanded well on the first game and is far superiour in nearly every single way, had interesting setpieces, great graphics and difficult enemies.
If it's a failed sequel, how do you explain the shining review nearly every major game site gave it?
http://au.gamespot.com/ps3/action/resistance2/index.html?tag=result;title;0
http://au.ps3.ign.com/objects/142/14211237.html
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/game.php?id=10015
http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/944521-resistance-2/index.html
http://au.ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/resistance-2/
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/resistance2?q=resistance%202
http://ps3.gamezone.com/gamesell/p34508.htm
I'm pretty sure I've made my point...

But the whole Vibe and feel of the last game was gone, The great quadrant health system was gone, the frantic run and gun play style turned into a simple "Shoot them, take damage, wait a lil, get back to shooting" , the 8 carriable weapon system was ditched for a 2 weapon system, all the weapons lost thier "Awesome" factor by becoming overly balanced (In R1 the weapons all seemed to have one main use that made them the best weapon for given job while in R2 you just chose which ever you wanted and it wouldn't really matter) , the enimies were made less imtimidating with the AI and stat redone and it used the "Press L1 to look down sight" system that Call of Duty started.

The point of a sequel is to continue the "feeling" of the past game not totally change and evolve it to the point where you have 2 seperate games with the same character models.

This is just my opinion, (Though I'll admit the ending was only bad because of the huge cliff hanger the rest of it had a nice "wow" effect) Resistance 2 was indeed a huge improvement from Resistance 1 as a closing point to re assure that I don't hate it just I wished they stuck to what made resistance 1 so good.

Ok, thank you for clarifying your statement. When you said the ending was shit, and stated it ripped of CoD, I was thinking you were one of those neanderthals who had never heard of an "eff pee ess" before CoD4. It changed alot of the things from the first game, granted, but for good reason. The weapon game mechanics were streamlined and the whole healing thing tied in nicely with Nathan's progression of the Chimeran infection.
Thank you for clarifying your previous post as the first one really made you sound like a blithering idiot who just had no idea.
Glad to see that isn't the case.

 

[omega 616]

metal gear solid 2 sucked!!!!! you couldn't even play snake u got some whiny emo kid ...
tomb raider sequels
doom 3
final fantasy x2 i felt something was missing

Fixed that up for you, metal gear 2 is a totally different game to metal gear solid 2.

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On topic. they have already been mentioned but there so bad I will say them again, DoW2 and FFX-2, they should be banished.

Both have god awful gameplay, which is vastly different to the first ... in a bad way.

 

[Jennacide]

Bioshock 2 failed in pretty much every aspect. While I get the design document claim that rapture should've been big enough for more than one story, the story of bioshock 1 introduced, fully fleshed out, and then perfectly resolved every situation in rapture.

Stop believing in every Yahtzee video you see, BS2 is as good as any video game sequel can get, hell I had more fun playing that than the first game, and to be honest BS1 ending and resolution was pretty dumb...0o

Did you and I play the same game, or are your standards that bad? =| And just because you don't agree with the opinion, don't try and lash out by claiming someone is just following Yahtzee. By that logic, I am too, except that I hated it before the video even went up.

Also: complaining about Bio1's ending is amusing, since 2's endings were just as stupid and bad. The ONLY thing Bio2 had going for it was better combat, everything else wasn't as good. Story, levels, atmosphere. And don't even get me started on the multiplayer, the single most unbalanced and idiotic online play I've ever seen. Swarm + Grenade Launcher = FREE POINTS.

On topic. they have already been mentioned but there so bad I will say them again, DoW2 and FFX-2, they should be banished.

Both have god awful gameplay, which is vastly different to the first ... in a bad way.

DoW2's single player was different, the online play was almost the same. And honestly who buys strategy games for single player? =|

 

[Tharwen]

Wait, you didn't like DoW2? I dispute your opinion!

 

[omega 616]

DoW2's single player was different, the online play was almost the same. And honestly who buys strategy games for single player? =|

Ummm, I do.

I have only just got the proper Internet so I could never play online before a few months ago.

Now, I much prefer playing on my ps3 and I don't have a desk or anything to put my PC on so it's practically impossible the way it is set up now, I can barely surf the net.

I have my keyboard balanced on my pc, so it rattles when I type and my mouse is on my leg or I put my keyboard on my lap and use my mouse on the cushion so my wrist is bent back as far as possible.

I have just moved house, from were I had a comp desk and a chair so I had neither then when I moved, I have to buy my own and they aren't cheap! (well, all I need now is a chair)

I am also below average in terms of skill on RTS games, I never memorize hotkeys, I turtle really badly and usually only build one of every production/research building.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

OT: I feel like Going Commando was the best PS2 Ratchet & Clank game, and Up Your Arsenal, while still good, didn't quite reach the standards that its predecessor set. Not to mention Deadlocked (probably the worst of the series).

I never played the series after going commando. It was and always will be the highlight.
In Up Your Arsenal, your weapons would upgrade TEN TIMES. That meant that upgrades weren't as radical as the single upgrade system in Commando.

In Commando, the Mini Nuke, your second weapon, upgraded from the Gravity Bomb, was still extremely devastating later in the game. Compare that to any weapon from Arsenal, where the difference between a level three and four gun is much less satisfying.

THANK you.
I didn't like the upgrading weapons at all, but at least they werent half as irritating in Going Commando.

The games have just been going downhill ever since. RaC was a near-perfect game. With every new game since, things have gotten steadily worse (but with tighter controls) and after having played all of RaCF, I want to pretend they didnt happen.

also in my list of bad or at least disappointing sequels:
Oblivion (so good, but not in the right ways)
DMC4 (and anyone who says otherwise is a filthy liar or stupid)
and more but i have to leave now

 

[Kagim]

IF you count Dirge of Cerebres(cant spell i know) as a sequel to FFVII then god damn that should be the number one spot on everyone's lists. That game was horrible. Headshots only meant a higher chance at a critical so it was pretty much playing a fps slowed way the crap down. I was so excited when i heard about it but they couldn't leave the rpg out of it. I enjoyed the fact guns were upgradeable and leveling up itself is fine but the rpg combat element should never be in a game advertised as a shooter. When i shoot someone in the head they are supposed to die, not have a ten percent extra chance to crit.

Everyone seems to complain about BS2 lately. I find it odd. Its a fairly decent shooter. Is it a page from the burning glory of god in all that should be gaming? Christ no. I think ts a massive improvement over the first game. Then again in the first game on my second play through on the thought of having to do that last hour again I turned it off for thee months. I just wish people would stop comparing it to the first like they do. BOTH games have broken stories, just in different ways. The endings? Yeah the evil side got screwed on a crap ending. The good side i thought was well done. The endings for BS2 are actually all really well done. Better then i have seen from any game in a long while.

Maybe BS2 was saved for me because i refused to read word one about it. I walked into it with the only prior knowledge that it took place in rapture. I was spared from the hype tainting my view of the game.

I can deal with people not liking it straight out, it just bugs me when people complain about its "bad story" the talk about how awesome Halo was. Halo was the definition of crappy story.(Real life incidents, not here, yet)

Back on topic. I hope Infamous 2 stays away from being a crappy sequel and i agree with the people saying DOW 2 was crap.