Kajin said:
Do4600 said:
It's like saying you like Shakespeare because you like Lion King.
And yet Lion King is the overall better experience. I've read Shakespeare. While I overall enjoyed his work I think he was little more than a bawdy playwright. It utterly baffles me that people think he's the best thing since before sliced bread was even a thing.
As erttheking has already stated, if liking the newer games more than the older ones means you have to revoke your Fan Card, then it wasn't worth much to have one to begin with. Being a fan doesn't automatically entitle you to be a condescending jerkwad to everyone who likes the parts of the series you don't like. If that's what it takes to be a "true fan" then you can keep that status. It isn't worthy of anything but shame.
Perhaps the Lion King is more palatable, but in my opinion it doesn't challenge the audience as much, it doesn't ask as many existential questions, and some would say that those questions are the purpose of art in the first place. Which one is better is a matter of philosophy and preference but being a fan of The Lion King still doesn't make you a fan of Shakespeare. Being a fan of Bethesda's Fallout doesn't make you a fan of Interplay's Fallout.
I think the problem is that they share a name but Bethesda's Fallout is essentially a totally different game, no maybe not a totally different game, just an outrageous spin-off, Fallout 3 is like Trapper John M.D. to Fallout's M*A*S*H*. Now imagine that Trapper John M.D. is even more popular than M*A*S*H* and that it's also named M*A*S*H* this is exactly the situation we're in right now.
Fallout 3 uses 95% of the art design, 40% of the story and 20% of the mechanics of Fallout. They're not similar games which explains why people who are fans of the new games usually hate the old games and why people like me who played the old games look at the new games and say they might as well be a new IP altogether. It's Fallout in name only, sure there are things called deathclaws, there are stimpacks, there are super mutants, but it still won't change the fact that nearly every aspect of how you navigate and interact with those art assets is totally different. Like Lion King it's a simplified experience to appeal to a wider audience.
It's a totally subjective question of which you prefer. One is a true sprite based RPG with deep mechanics and choices you can't even scratch in a single playthrough. One is a massive first person shooter with basic rpg elements which provides a visceral experience that is linear at the top and bottom and wide in the middle. I don't see the new games as Fallout games, and you see that as a slur because you LOVE Fallout, but for 11 years before Fallout 3 Fallout 1-Tactics WAS fallout, and that's my perspective. That's my Fallout, not your fallout. So when you look at old Fallout you say, "That's not Fallout, Fallout 3 is Fallout" If they had just named it OBLIVIOUT, or Daughter Particles or Black Rain or Thyroid Melter we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Also just like sports fans, if you only like the team when it's winning you aren't a true fan.