the big scuff was protagonists being female, and with the recent assassins creed coming out soon and having them all be cookie cutters of each other on the art they showed offBlumiereBleck said:LOLZ IM SO HIP. LOL ROMNEY JOKE! TEHEHEHEHEH IM SOOOO COOL XD LOOK AT ME BEING A #NERD WITH YOU GUYZ LOL STUPID COMPANIES! FISH JOKE LULZ!!!!!!
This is literally what the first page reeks of.
This is what all of you wanted. You wanted more women in games, here you go women in games.
I felt the same way. I feels like they're trying a little too hard. We get it, Ubisoft, you're not actually sexist. Overcompensating is only going to make you look all the more sexist.Epidemiix said:Anyone kinda weirded out by the way that he states this fact?
While I think that the sentiment here is awesome, there has to be a better way of saying it then "It's packed to the gills with women. They're everywhere, just like life."
That wouldn't be implying that its cool to kill endless waves of men would it, because their just naturally evil right?Strazdas said:Oh, yes, plenty of woman you should shoot, because they are evil of course. I see they still havent learnt how to not trip over themselves.
No, gender should not be playing into whos evil to begin with.Dragonlayer said:That wouldn't be implying that its cool to kill endless waves of men would it, because their just naturally evil right?
Then why did you say "Oh, yes, plenty of woman you should shoot, because they are evil of course"? I mean, I can probably answer that myself, as its good snark to nail the PR department with, but if gender shouldn't matter in determining sin (which of course it doesn't), then why even peck at Ubisoft in such a way?Strazdas said:No, gender should not be playing into whos evil to begin with.Dragonlayer said:That wouldn't be implying that its cool to kill endless waves of men would it, because their just naturally evil right?
Charlotte Corday [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Corday] says hi.PunkRex said:I think it's kind of cute, "we got lots and lots of girls here, no fooling!", speaking of which, your avatar is adorable /)^3^(\Epidemiix said:Anyone kinda weirded out by the way that he states this fact?
While I think that the sentiment here is awesome, there has to be a better way of saying it then "It's packed to the gills with women. They're everywhere, just like life."
OT: I hope game developers don't take this the wrong way. Although i'm sure a lot of war zones are far more gender diverse then often portrayed, the reason peeps were annoyed at Assassins Creed: Unity so much was due to the heavy role of women during the games setting... right?
And in the meantime, I'm going to go back through previous games and try to find any male leaders/antagonists from Ubisoft that are actual characters as opposed to one-dimensional archetypes.Eclipse Dragon said:I'll withhold my judgement until I see exactly how these women are represented (particularly the high ranking antagonists and the rebel leader and whether any of them are actual characters as opposed to one dimensional archetypes, and whether they literally all look the same or not).
Well then that would just be a step up for Ubi in all accounts now wouldn't it?Scow2 said:And in the meantime, I'm going to go back through previous games and try to find any male leaders/antagonists from Ubisoft that are actual characters as opposed to one-dimensional archetypes.Eclipse Dragon said:I'll withhold my judgement until I see exactly how these women are represented (particularly the high ranking antagonists and the rebel leader and whether any of them are actual characters as opposed to one dimensional archetypes, and whether they literally all look the same or not).
EDIT: Seven AAA games so far, no hits.
Why do they need to be well thought-out characters? Female characters in video games do not need any more characterization than males. In fact, I'd say that's one of the biggest hurdles and most unreasonable demands that leads to the lack of female representation in games:shadowmagus said:Does this really qualify as news?
Who cares? I mean really.
Congratulations, you created a bunch of female characters. Unless they are well though-out characters, then all you have are placeholders.
No. It's largely a waste of time and effort that could be better spent making the game actually fun (Like most Ubisoft games). One-dimensional archetypes work well enough, and often better because they give more room for projection and speculation. An archetype or blank slate means the game is merely presenting a single facet of a character. If you try to overdevelop a character, it leaves you with a sense that that is all there is too them because you see too much.Eclipse Dragon said:Well then that would just be a step up for Ubi in all accounts now wouldn't it?Scow2 said:And in the meantime, I'm going to go back through previous games and try to find any male leaders/antagonists from Ubisoft that are actual characters as opposed to one-dimensional archetypes.Eclipse Dragon said:I'll withhold my judgement until I see exactly how these women are represented (particularly the high ranking antagonists and the rebel leader and whether any of them are actual characters as opposed to one dimensional archetypes, and whether they literally all look the same or not).
EDIT: Seven AAA games so far, no hits.
That's well and good if that's what you look for in your games, I prefer story and characters that are well-rounded and believable, so to me putting in that effort wouldn't be a waste of time, different tastes.Scow2 said:No. It's largely a waste of time and effort that could be better spent making the game actually fun (Like most Ubisoft games). One-dimensional archetypes work well enough, and often better because they give more room for projection and speculation. An archetype or blank slate means the game is merely presenting a single facet of a character. If you try to overdevelop a character, it leaves you with a sense that that is all there is too them because you see too much.
because ubisoft statement made it sound like all the women in game are going to be antagonist and they were proud of it. implying no good women.Dragonlayer said:Then why did you say "Oh, yes, plenty of woman you should shoot, because they are evil of course"? I mean, I can probably answer that myself, as its good snark to nail the PR department with, but if gender shouldn't matter in determining sin (which of course it doesn't), then why even peck at Ubisoft in such a way?Strazdas said:No, gender should not be playing into whos evil to begin with.Dragonlayer said:That wouldn't be implying that its cool to kill endless waves of men would it, because their just naturally evil right?