Far Cry 4 Is "Packed to The Gills" With Women

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And now they just made it sound like some simulator for gunning down women. This is hilarious, you can't write evil megacorps like these real-life ones.
 

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LOLZ IM SO HIP. LOL ROMNEY JOKE! TEHEHEHEHEH IM SOOOO COOL XD LOOK AT ME BEING A #NERD WITH YOU GUYZ LOL STUPID COMPANIES! FISH JOKE LULZ!!!!!!
This is literally what the first page reeks of.
This is what all of you wanted. You wanted more women in games, here you go women in games.
 

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The dude sounds like he hates the fact that people care so much about how many women there are in his silly video game and he's making fun of them for it.

Which he should be. Most people won't even catch on anyways because they're hearing what they want to hear.
 
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BlumiereBleck said:
LOLZ IM SO HIP. LOL ROMNEY JOKE! TEHEHEHEHEH IM SOOOO COOL XD LOOK AT ME BEING A #NERD WITH YOU GUYZ LOL STUPID COMPANIES! FISH JOKE LULZ!!!!!!
This is literally what the first page reeks of.
This is what all of you wanted. You wanted more women in games, here you go women in games.
the big scuff was protagonists being female, and with the recent assassins creed coming out soon and having them all be cookie cutters of each other on the art they showed off


and other recent PR fuck ups, you would think ubisoft would listen a tinyyyy bit better, everyone and their mom knows women have been antagonists and have been background props for years, but playing as a woman or having her as one of the main protagonists is rare, which is what people were making hub-bub about.

....hence the facepalming and jokes, especially with how he worded it, he sounded just like Romney did in the last election where everyone rolled their eyes at him sounding so stupid.

 

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Epidemiix said:
Anyone kinda weirded out by the way that he states this fact?

While I think that the sentiment here is awesome, there has to be a better way of saying it then "It's packed to the gills with women. They're everywhere, just like life."
I felt the same way. I feels like they're trying a little too hard. We get it, Ubisoft, you're not actually sexist. Overcompensating is only going to make you look all the more sexist.
 

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I suspect the next statement from Ubisoft's PR department will just be a desperate "WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US!?" followed by the spokesman sitting down and crying.

Strazdas said:
Oh, yes, plenty of woman you should shoot, because they are evil of course. I see they still havent learnt how to not trip over themselves.
That wouldn't be implying that its cool to kill endless waves of men would it, because their just naturally evil right?
 

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Jesus people will never be happy.

Can someone wake me up when the conversation shifts from women represented better in gaming to people represented better in gaming?

Oh? Not going to happen? Guess I'll be sleeping forever then.
 

Strazdas

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Dragonlayer said:
That wouldn't be implying that its cool to kill endless waves of men would it, because their just naturally evil right?
No, gender should not be playing into whos evil to begin with.
 

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Strazdas said:
Dragonlayer said:
That wouldn't be implying that its cool to kill endless waves of men would it, because their just naturally evil right?
No, gender should not be playing into whos evil to begin with.
Then why did you say "Oh, yes, plenty of woman you should shoot, because they are evil of course"? I mean, I can probably answer that myself, as its good snark to nail the PR department with, but if gender shouldn't matter in determining sin (which of course it doesn't), then why even peck at Ubisoft in such a way?
 

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PunkRex said:
Epidemiix said:
Anyone kinda weirded out by the way that he states this fact?

While I think that the sentiment here is awesome, there has to be a better way of saying it then "It's packed to the gills with women. They're everywhere, just like life."
I think it's kind of cute, "we got lots and lots of girls here, no fooling!", speaking of which, your avatar is adorable /)^3^(\

OT: I hope game developers don't take this the wrong way. Although i'm sure a lot of war zones are far more gender diverse then often portrayed, the reason peeps were annoyed at Assassins Creed: Unity so much was due to the heavy role of women during the games setting... right?
Charlotte Corday [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Corday] says hi.
 

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Eclipse Dragon said:
I'll withhold my judgement until I see exactly how these women are represented (particularly the high ranking antagonists and the rebel leader and whether any of them are actual characters as opposed to one dimensional archetypes, and whether they literally all look the same or not).
And in the meantime, I'm going to go back through previous games and try to find any male leaders/antagonists from Ubisoft that are actual characters as opposed to one-dimensional archetypes.

EDIT: Seven AAA games so far, no hits.
 

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Scow2 said:
Eclipse Dragon said:
I'll withhold my judgement until I see exactly how these women are represented (particularly the high ranking antagonists and the rebel leader and whether any of them are actual characters as opposed to one dimensional archetypes, and whether they literally all look the same or not).
And in the meantime, I'm going to go back through previous games and try to find any male leaders/antagonists from Ubisoft that are actual characters as opposed to one-dimensional archetypes.

EDIT: Seven AAA games so far, no hits.
Well then that would just be a step up for Ubi in all accounts now wouldn't it?
 

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shadowmagus said:
Does this really qualify as news?

Who cares? I mean really.

Congratulations, you created a bunch of female characters. Unless they are well though-out characters, then all you have are placeholders.
Why do they need to be well thought-out characters? Female characters in video games do not need any more characterization than males. In fact, I'd say that's one of the biggest hurdles and most unreasonable demands that leads to the lack of female representation in games:
If you want to put a male into the game, you just plop in a male model, possibly assign it some voice lines, and if you're feeling generous, give him a name.

If you want to put a female into the game, not only do you have to plop in a female model, but you have to be concerned with how it looks (Don't want to make it too pretty, or you're "Objectifying women", don't want to make it too ugly because that's harder(The deformities, asymmetries, defects, and anatomical complexity of bodies make uglier ones harder to design - we read simpler, symmetrical ones as more attractive even if the anatomy is actually far off from reality), and you get accused of villifying/mocking women. And, then, instead of just plopping in some generic shouts/battlecries/acknowledgement dialogue, you have to give each one a name, motivation, personality, and enough personalized dialogue and screentime to express that personality and effort.

... and after you go through all that effort, people still praise Chell and Faith as the best female protagonists in the industry (While Gordon Freeman is continued to be presented as the best male protagonist) - and they're right.



EDIT: And the Escapist has the worst Captchas ever that I can't imagine stopping a spambot - they're advertisements that accept any bullshit answer to let you post.
Eclipse Dragon said:
Scow2 said:
Eclipse Dragon said:
I'll withhold my judgement until I see exactly how these women are represented (particularly the high ranking antagonists and the rebel leader and whether any of them are actual characters as opposed to one dimensional archetypes, and whether they literally all look the same or not).
And in the meantime, I'm going to go back through previous games and try to find any male leaders/antagonists from Ubisoft that are actual characters as opposed to one-dimensional archetypes.

EDIT: Seven AAA games so far, no hits.
Well then that would just be a step up for Ubi in all accounts now wouldn't it?
No. It's largely a waste of time and effort that could be better spent making the game actually fun (Like most Ubisoft games). One-dimensional archetypes work well enough, and often better because they give more room for projection and speculation. An archetype or blank slate means the game is merely presenting a single facet of a character. If you try to overdevelop a character, it leaves you with a sense that that is all there is too them because you see too much.
 

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Scow2 said:
No. It's largely a waste of time and effort that could be better spent making the game actually fun (Like most Ubisoft games). One-dimensional archetypes work well enough, and often better because they give more room for projection and speculation. An archetype or blank slate means the game is merely presenting a single facet of a character. If you try to overdevelop a character, it leaves you with a sense that that is all there is too them because you see too much.
That's well and good if that's what you look for in your games, I prefer story and characters that are well-rounded and believable, so to me putting in that effort wouldn't be a waste of time, different tastes.
 

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Dragonlayer said:
Strazdas said:
Dragonlayer said:
That wouldn't be implying that its cool to kill endless waves of men would it, because their just naturally evil right?
No, gender should not be playing into whos evil to begin with.
Then why did you say "Oh, yes, plenty of woman you should shoot, because they are evil of course"? I mean, I can probably answer that myself, as its good snark to nail the PR department with, but if gender shouldn't matter in determining sin (which of course it doesn't), then why even peck at Ubisoft in such a way?
because ubisoft statement made it sound like all the women in game are going to be antagonist and they were proud of it. implying no good women.
 

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Uhhhhhh.. Okay? I mean, couldn't we have found that out in the game itself? Kind of odd that they're coming out and saying this and really putting pride into it, "LOOK AT ALL THESE WOMEN!". Or are they trying to cover up the Assassin Creed story?